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Mexican police are trying to violently crush the Oaxacan revolution.

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  • 26-11-2006 1:09pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 22,423 ✭✭✭✭


    A solidarity march involving hundreds of thousands of people has been gassed by the Mexican defence forces and many have been shot with live ammunition.

    Tanks have been deployed, police are firing into the crowds with automatic weapons.

    there is a running commentary on indymedia for people who are interested (it reads from bottom to top in chronological order)
    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/79885

    Every other news outlet seems to be ignoring this issue, and interestingly, BBC are covering a less dramatic, less newsworthy opposition rally in Venezuela. It's interesting to compare how the 'quazi dictator' chavez deals with political opposition when compared with the 'democratically elected' Fox


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 648 ✭✭✭landser


    Talk about sensationalist headlines and incorrect content...

    here, read The Independent

    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1943284.ece

    or perhaps balanced journalism isnt to your taste


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭Rebeller


    Akrasia wrote:
    It's interesting to compare how the 'quazi dictator' chavez deals with political opposition when compared with the 'democratically elected' Fox

    Interesting indeed. Proves once again that the mainstream corporate media should not be seen as providing a truly impartial world view.

    BBC (with certain notable exceptions) is generally just a mouthpiece to the corporate fascism of MI6 and the elite who
    own the globe.

    What's even more surprising about the crimes occurring in Mexico is that the current Mexican administration has only just released (albeit in a low key manner) a report on the torture and disappearances that occurred during the dirty war against left wing guerrillas and student activists

    (you can see it HERE)

    Just as the planning tribunals in Ireland are seem by many as dealing with a chapter in Irish history that is past (I disagree) the release of the dirty war report was an attempt to suggest that Mexico is now on a strong democratic footing and the crimes and abuses of the past are (like the victims) dead and gone.

    The brutality you are referring to is proof (if even needed) that the administration has not changed its fundamental belief system which is based on violent and criminal repression of any movements that attempt to obtain land reform and greater democratic inclusiveness for the majority of poor Mexicans.

    What with the tide of socialist democracy sweeping through the continent we can only hope that Mexico will soon too taste through freedom and democracy


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,423 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    landser wrote:
    Talk about sensationalist headlines and incorrect content...

    here, read The Independent

    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1943284.ece

    or perhaps balanced journalism isnt to your taste
    that article is nowhere near balanced.

    It keeps referring to protesters 'preventing children from going to school' but that is because many of the protesters are striking teachers and the schools are closed because the teachers are on strike.

    Another statement particularly stood out for it's deception
    Now, however, the patience of Mr Fox is over. After a shoot-out at one of the demonstrators' barricades on Friday left an American photo-journalist and two other people dead, he ordered the army and federal police at last to retake Oaxaca and restore some kind of order.
    The american journalist in question was an indymedia activist who was shot by mexican secret police. it was not a 'shoot-out', it was a state death squad. They mention that later in the article, but in a manner that implies that the violence came from the protesters and not the other way around.

    The whole article implies that the protesters were violent and the mexican authorities were restrained. it didn't mention the fact that the protesters were on a peaceful march when they were attacked and gassed by the police.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 648 ✭✭✭landser


    Akrasia wrote:
    that article is nowhere near balanced.

    it didn't mention the fact that the protesters were on a peaceful march when they were attacked and gassed by the police.

    That would be the "hundreds of thousands" of them that you mentioned in your original post.

    My point is well made, your original post is exaggeratory, to the extent that anything you say has to be considered suspect, even if it was the truth

    The fact that there is a report in the Independent, shows that you were misleading when you said that other news outlets were ignoring the story.

    Hundreds of thousands were not marching, nor were they gassed (the Police would not have the capability to gas the alleged hundreds of thousands, in fact, an entire army would not have the capability to do that)

    from the reports i have read (not just indymedia) live rounds have been shot by both sides

    I am not defending Mexico or its governments, nor am I condeming the actions of the proestors, I merely objected to the clearly biased, sensationalist, misleading and lazy post which you put up originally


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,423 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    landser wrote:
    That would be the "hundreds of thousands" of them that you mentioned in your original post.

    According to the reports that I had seen, there were hundreds of thousands of people on the march.
    The fact that there is a report in the Independent, shows that you were misleading when you said that other news outlets were ignoring the story.
    I did a google news search and all I could find were reports on indymedia, democracy now, and various left wing publications. One article in the U.K. independent does not nullify my claim that the media is ignoring the issue.
    Hundreds of thousands were not marching, nor were they gassed (the Police would not have the capability to gas the alleged hundreds of thousands, in fact, an entire army would not have the capability to do that)
    There are plenty of eye witness reports of the police using gas. where are you getting your assertion that gas was not used? (or are you just using semantics, that every single protester did not inhale gas, therefore 'the crowd' was not gassed
    from the reports i have read (not just indymedia) live rounds have been shot by both sides
    where are these reports that you refer to? Do they explicitly say both sides fred live rounds, or do they just say 'shots were fired and imply that it was by both sides.
    I am not defending Mexico or its governments, nor am I condeming the actions of the proestors, I merely objected to the clearly biased, sensationalist, misleading and lazy post which you put up originally
    by posting your own misleading and biased report?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Nuttzz


    Sorry, this story has been removed due to a possible breach of the editorial guidelines and is under review by the editorial group. If you think that this story should be allowed to remain on the newswire, please check our editorial guidelines and if you think that your article does not breach any of these guidelines, you can contact the editorial collective to make your case.

    sums it up really...


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,423 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I don't know why the story was removed from indymedia. Probably because it was a repost from somewhere else. the story is no less true.

    There is a huge amount of information here http://chiapas.indymedia.org/
    including videos


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