Audi TT

Lexus1976

Looking at Audio TT's coupe at the moment. (Not looking at the new model, planning on buying the older version)

Whats the difference between an Audi TT and an Audi TT Quattro are they the same car?

When they mention BHP what exactly are they refering too?

They have 2 types 180 BHP and 225 BHP would the insurance be relatively the same for these 2 or would there be a significance difference?

Anybody have or previoulsy owned one that can remember how much they cost to service?

peasant

"Quattro" is Audi's brand name for their 4WD system. So the normal TT is front wheel drive, the Quattro is all wheel drive.

BHP (break horse power) === horsepower, PS, KW, ooomph...the more the merrier.

don' know for sure but there probably IS a difference in insurance ...simply because one version is significantly more expensive than the other .

bazz26

Lexus1976 wrote:

Looking at Audio TT's coupe at the moment. (Not looking at the new model, planning on buying the older version)

Whats the difference between an Audi TT and an Audi TT Quattro are they the same car?

When they mention BHP what exactly are they refering too?

They have 2 types 180 BHP and 225 BHP would the insurance be relatively the same for these 2 or would there be a significance difference?

Anybody have or previoulsy owned one that can remember how much they cost to service?

The Quattro is four wheel drive where as the other is two wheel drive. Not sure if you can get the two wheel drive version with 225bhp as that would probably be too much power for the front wheels only.

My guess is that insurance for the 225bhp Quattro version would be more expensive than the 180bhp non Quattro. Ring your insurance company and find out.

Both cars use the same 1.8 litre 20 valve turbo engine already found in the MkIV Golf GTi/Skoda Octavia vRS and Seat Leon Cupra/Cupra R.

The bhp is the power output of the engine. The standard TT has 180bhp while the Quattro has 225bhp. Both have the same engine just one is more powerful than the other.

Lexus1976

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=544443

Just seen the 180 BHP Quattro... is that correct?

Lexus1976

Hi thanks for your replies

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=544443

Just seen the 180 BHP Quattro... is that correct?

Moanin

Go for the 225bhp quattro if you can.Some yoke to go!

Anan1

Moanin wrote:

Go for the 225bhp quattro if you can.Some yoke to go!

Having read the OP's first post, i'd be advising him to go for the 150bhp FWD car. They all look the same, and the 150bhp car will be cheaper to buy, to insure and to run.

Lexus1976

Never seen or heard of the 150BHP!! Are there many of them around? None on cbg or carzone?

Moanin

Lexus1976 wrote:

Never seen or heard of the 150BHP!! Are there many of them around? None on cbg or carzone?

Think that was a typo.Should be 180 me thinks

Anan1

Moanin wrote:

Think that was a typo.Should be 180 me thinks

There was definitely a 150bhp TT roadster; i'm assuming the same engine was offered in the coupé, although i'm not absolutely sure.

Oilrig

Awesome piece of kit, 225 Quattro is the best version - make sure its got the rear spoiler - some of the earlier versions didn't have this and allegedly suffered handling issues as a result.

On the downside, any I've known had horrendous reliability/cost issues, make sure you get a FSH from a dealer & follow it up with the mechs for hidden problems. Last one I dealt with the dash packed up, owner had had enough & flogged it at that stage as he was being quoted lotto money to sort it out. A pity as he was mad about it.

Anan1

Oilrig wrote:

Awesome piece of kit, 225 Quattro is the best version - make sure its got the rear spoiler - some of the earlier versions didn't have this and allegedly suffered handling issues as a result.

As far as I remember, all early cars were offered a recall to have both the rear spoiler and ESP retrofitted. This was as a result of a spate of accidents in Germany involving high-speed lift-off oversteer. The feeling among the motoring press at the time was that the changes made the car safer but far less entertaining to drive. Kind of ruined the looks too, IMO.

TempestSabre

Always thought there was 180bhp FWD, 180bhp 4WD and 225bhp 4WD. But on looking up the spec its seems there were a few other ones aswell. There 190bhp and a 3.2 250bhp and a 1.8T 240bhp. Theres also a 150bhp roadster, later 163bhp. More here...

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?p_make=AUD&h_make=AUD&p_model=%2021

Mc-BigE

TempestSabre wrote:

Always thought there was 180bhp FWD, 180bhp 4WD and 225bhp 4WD. But on looking up the spec its seems there were a few other ones aswell. There 190bhp and a 3.2 250bhp and a 1.8T 240bhp. Theres also a 150bhp roadster, later 163bhp. More here...

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?p_make=AUD&h_make=AUD&p_model=%2021

I think there was only two models sold in ireland at the beginning, both 1.9T engines, 180BHP and 225BHP, I think quattro was an option on the 180BHP model.but standard on the 225 model

Look out for an exhaust on each side ,this is the 225BHP model.

Moanin

Mc-BigE wrote:

I think there was only two models sold in ireland at the beginning, both 1.9T engines, 180BHP and 225BHP, I think quattro was an option on the 180BHP model.but standard on the 225 model

Look out for an exhaust on each side ,this is the 225BHP model.

1.8T actually. 1.9 is the TDI VAG diesel engine not available in this model but I believe there's a diesel on the way for the new current model

TempestSabre

Mc-BigE wrote:

I think there was only two models sold in ireland at the beginning, both 1.9T engines, 180BHP and 225BHP, I think quattro was an option on the 180BHP model.but standard on the 225 model

Look out for an exhaust on each side ,this is the 225BHP model.

There isn't a 1.9T petrol anywhere in the VAG

Mc-BigE

TempestSabre wrote:

There isn't a 1.9T petrol anywhere in the VAG

yes, typo, meant 1.8T

Lexus1976

Thanks for all your replies! any body know what a full service charge for the 180 Coupe?

Spitfire666

going by your first post, id buy the basic car as ANAN1 sujested.
If you need to ask what all the diff things in the options list are, you wont realy need anything more then the basic car. It just seems as your looking at the car from a purly asthetic point of view.

Lexus1976

Aesthetic point of view??? Yeah of course why not. If I did'nt look at vehicles from an aesthetic point of view I might as well buy a tractor!

TempestSabre

Lexus1976 wrote:

Aesthetic point of view??? Yeah of course why not. If I did'nt look at vehicles from an aesthetic point of view I might as well buy a tractor!

You're missing his very good point. If you don't know the difference between the cars, you are obviously not interested in the performance of the car, or the technical bits. Therefore as they all look essentially the same theres no point in paying extra for something you've no interest in, or probably won't notice. The TT is a lovely design, but its not the best drivers car, even if its nippy. Its almost worth buying just for the pleasure of the interior.

Spitfire666

thats what i was getting at. i didnt mean it in a bad way, i just ment as its an aesthetic purchase, buying the same car for more money isnt worth it if you dont/wont notice the diff. and from your posts i didnt think you would.
im not mocking you just making an observation.

Lexus1976

Yeah I see your point. I was looking for information on the car as I dont wish to spend a fortune on running, insurance and servicing the car.

Thanks for your replies.

TempestSabre

Then get a 1.8T FWD, and make sure all the esstential jobs are done as Audi's are expensive to maintain and the TT because its small is tight to work on, so some jobs are more awkward than on other cars.

Mc-BigE

TempestSabre wrote:

Then get a 1.8T FWD, and make sure all the esstential jobs are done as Audi's are expensive to maintain and the TT because its small is tight to work on, so some jobs are more awkward than on other cars.

No.1 job is Timing belt, pulleys, tensioners,thermostat,water pump.

Make sure this has been done if your anywhere around the 60 to 80k miles mark.

galwaytt

I've had two TT's over 4 years, so allow me........

As you're buying used, unless you're buying very recent, there are essentially only two models in this market: 180bhp Quattro and 225bhp Quattro.

Later in the model range, there became available a 150bhp. The main reason for that is that there was no auto available, and the 150bhp was 'on the shelf' in the VAG group with the Tiptronic box. As model went out, it became available in 190bhp and 240bhp forms, both as Quattro. The 180 fwd only car, is uniquely, iirc, a US version. Again, because they wanted an auto version only, and the Golf/Passat/A4 were already using it.

Problems? Loads !
Instrument pod - can be expensive, but now there's specialists repairing them in the UK.
Suspension - wears quickly. Mine failed it's NCT with worn tie rod ends at only 43k.
Rear suspension was recalled.........either 2 or 3 times - check this. Premature rear wheel bearing failure can be a result, or an indication that it hasn't been done.
MAF - like every other VAG car, is made of clay, and is utterly useless. Expect to replace it regularly.
Air bag lights - connectors under the seats give up due to adjusting the seat, not a biggie.........
Timing belt and water pump change is mandatory ! And expensive - half the front of the car has to come off.........
Timing chain on top end needs to be changed at....100-115k miles.

Other than that, I LOVE the car, and am sorely disappointed at the new one....looks very Celica/Hyundai.........oops!

The 3.2 DSG if you can afford it, will be worth zero in years to come, with Eur1343 p.a car tax.

Insurance on the 180 vs the 225 when I had mine was 60%, and the 225 was same insurance price as a Boxster......

TempestSabre

I always thought Ireland got a 1.8T FWD (non Quattro) unlike the UK which didn't. I thought these didn't have Quattro badge on the back. Must have been imagining it.

The new one is meant to be a much better car to drive. Looks wise its not as clean, I think they tried to make it more macho to appeal more to guys.

Calibos

TempestSabre wrote:

................. I think they tried to make it more macho to appeal more to guys.

.....And it worked! Was looking at getting a TT in '04 after wanting one for years but after getting really up close and personal in the showroom I couldn't help but feel it was a bit 'girly'. I was never put off by the 'hairdresser porsche' comments but in the flesh I had to admit it was a bit femminine. Went for an A3 in the end that year.

Wasn't holding out much hope for the new model. After seeing the pictures I was pleasently suprised but still wasn't 100% sure I really liked it. After seeing one in the flesh however at the Launch event with big wheels I was sold. Looks much better in real life than even the pictures. Looks more 'macho' too. There is nothing 'Girly' about the new car.

I'll post some pics in about 4 weeks:D Can't wait!

spuddy

I've been looking at TTs, however the realiablity seems attrocious(http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/), and galwaytt's comments don't do much to improve my confidence.
Are they really that bad?

galwaytt

it's not that they're bad, it's just that the badge and price will bring with it certain expectations......in terms of power/speed/looks etc it will probably push all your buttons, and the interior is still a work of art, ahead of anything - Porshce included - but, in terms of reliability, etc, it's still very much a Golf, and contrary to popular perception, it's has it's issues. Any Jap coupe will trounce it for reliability.

For me, all the above outweighed the minus', so I got a second one, and wouldn't be put off a 3rd in the right colour/transmission combo......

It's like everything else - every car is worth buying, warts and all, at the right price.........

Lexus1976

the 225 was same insurance price as a Boxster...... huh?? Is this true !