The Scottish PL discussion thread

redspider

Celtic's season has taken a couple of wrong turns in recent matches and things arent going well. Although Celtic dominated the match v Aberdeen tonight, they couldnt turn that dominance and those chances into goals and a win. Celtic are better than Aberdeen but are out.

What with recent hiccups in the league, Celtic are now 3 pts behind Rangers and Rangers have a game in hand, the season is precariously placed. It is possible that Celtic will end up with no trophies, and that is below the minimum benchmark in my book and no doubt all/most Celtic fans.

I dont think Samaras would make that much of a difference. VofH does have some class in the final area, if he is not a 'terrier forward' ala McDonald, but for me he doesnt fight enough. He did however do just as much as McDonald did tonight. Naka too has to ask questions off himself - has he done enough during the season? I dont think he is satisfied. Donati is not good enough I think.

Once again, Aiden was Celtic's best player on the pitch. I dunno, but I have a feeling that he may be on his way this summer if a club comes in with an offer for him that the owners of Celtic cant resist and which the young lad would see as an opportunity.

Not a good position to be in at the moment. The season is not all lost yet though, there is a lot of football to be played, and Rangers are catchable in the league.

Redspider

Mr.Nice Guy

redspider wrote: »

Once again, Aiden was Celtic's best player on the pitch.

I didn't think that at all. I thought he was poor. Whenever he actually got into a threatening position his distribution wasn't good enough. Plus he had a great chance in the second half when the ball dropped for him and he rushed the chance and made a hash of it. I thought Nakamura was one of the few Celtic players who looked likely to make something happen.

ziggy

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FRM

What was the attendance last night - 143?

I am trying to be unbiased and keep the laughing in for a minute so here is my attempt at a summary.

Central defence is a time bomb waiting to happen. McManus needs a quality partner with him not Gary Bombscare.

The midfield needs a drastic overhaul. Brown needs a sitting player in their ala Hemdani/Dailly or he will continue to struggle.

Nakamura - I have NEVER seen him dominate a game. He reminds me of the specialist short corner taker in hockey. All he can do for me is take free kicks and corners apart from that he is easily bullied out of a game.

McGeady - Another one trick pony. Ask Alan Hutton exactly how to play McGeady for an example of this.

Up front is not the problem area.

Can I laugh now? :D:D:D:D

PauloMN

redspider wrote: »

Celtic's season has taken a couple of wrong turns in recent matches and things arent going well. Although Celtic dominated the match v Aberdeen tonight, they couldnt turn that dominance and those chances into goals and a win. Celtic are better than Aberdeen but are out.

What with recent hiccups in the league, Celtic are now 3 pts behind Rangers and Rangers have a game in hand, the season is precariously placed. It is possible that Celtic will end up with no trophies, and that is below the minimum benchmark in my book and no doubt all/most Celtic fans.

I dont think Samaras would make that much of a difference. VofH does have some class in the final area, if he is not a 'terrier forward' ala McDonald, but for me he doesnt fight enough. He did however do just as much as McDonald did tonight. Naka too has to ask questions off himself - has he done enough during the season? I dont think he is satisfied. Donati is not good enough I think.

Once again, Aiden was Celtic's best player on the pitch. I dunno, but I have a feeling that he may be on his way this summer if a club comes in with an offer for him that the owners of Celtic cant resist and which the young lad would see as an opportunity.

Not a good position to be in at the moment. The season is not all lost yet though, there is a lot of football to be played, and Rangers are catchable in the league.

Redspider

I think that sums it up pretty well TBH.

It was just one of those nights really, we could/should have scored twice at least and if we had, everyone would be on here saying how well we'd played. We completely dominated the game but couldn't finish which I agree is unacceptable, especially at home.

But for people to have a go at Naka and McGeady is laughable IMO. Aside from Naka being a little too easy to take the ball from, both himself and McGeady were/are the only creativity we have in midfield at the moment and last night I thought they did very well. If anyone has let us down this season, it has been Brown and Donati who have IMO both been below average.

Up front, I would like to see Hutchinson given a chance in place of McDonald for a couple of games as I think Skippy is exhausted right now and has lost his edge at the moment. No harm in changing things about up there.

At the back, McManus I think was good overall, except for that nervy pass back to Boruc. Naylor was quite good I thought, I like to see him and Hinkel going forward. I'd like to see Caldwell replaced though.

As for Rangers - I've said it before, what they have is good organisation and teamwork - we don't at the moment. Aside from Cuellar and maybe Ferguson, I don't think I'd take any of their players over what we have and that I think just further underlines the fact that Smith is getting a lot more out of his team than Strachan is out of Celtic.

If there's no silverware in the trophy room come the end of the season, I wonder is Strachan's time up?

FRM

Strachan's time will be up even if he win's the league.

I seriously must watch different games with regards to Nakamura and McGeady.

Eirebear

i think everyone knows my lack of appreciation for Nakamura, so i wont bother with that one.

McGeady on form is a lethal winger, but he is far from unstoppable and very rarely hits the form he is hyped up to by Strachan, Lawell, his teammates, fans and the media.

celtics inability to mention "Aidan" without going into some form of hyperbole about how great he is, for me will become detrimental to his progress as a football player.
Take last night for example

Strachan "Aidan was terrorising their full back"
Im sorry but he wasnt, he had a lot of the ball and ran at Maybury all night...but Maybury was up to the test on this occasion and 95% of the time ushered McGeady out of play or forced im to cut inside/pass the ball back to someone else.

This in my book is not terrorising a defender.
Im not having a go at McGeady's performance last night such...but Strachans comments stick in the throat a little.

But then this is just part of a bigger thing when it comes to Strachan, he finds it impossible in anyway to see that his team are lacking (well at least in public) and after EVERY game, bangs on about how great celtic performed.
The fact of the matter is, unless there is a turnaround in the league (which admittedly is still highly possible) this is looking like an EXTREMELY unsuccesful season for your club....

it almost brings back memories of a certain Tommy Burns era, which is fondly looked back on by certain celtic supporters as the season where you lost the league after only losing one game.

"If only we hadnt drawn so many......"

eirebhoy

FRM wrote: »

Nakamura - I have NEVER seen him dominate a game.

Either a short memory or you don't watch much of Celtic. He dominated 80% of the home games last season. He was superb. Away from home he was solid most of the time.

Naka last night was easily Celtic's most creative player. Obviously he didn't dominate as much as he would have last season in this game but his forward passing was top notch. 5 or 6 class through balls.

Here, this is the motm votes from last season which are usually pretty accurate:

http://www.kerrydalestreet.com/page/KDS+MOTM+Winners+06%2F07

12-Aug-06 Celtic 2 v 0 St Mirren SPL McGeady - Nakamura - Petrov
13-Sep-06 Man Utd 3 v 2 Celtic Euro Boruc - JV of Hesselink - Nakamura
16-Sep-06 Celtic 1 v 0 Dunfermline SPL Naylor - Nakamura - McManus
26-Sep-06 Celtic 1 v 0 Copenhagen Euro Nakamura - McGeady - Lennon
01-Oct-06 Falkirk 0 v 1 Celtic SPL McGeady - Miller - Nakamura
14-Oct-06 Dundee Utd 1 v 4 Celtic SPL Nakamura - Sno - Jarosik
17-Oct-06 Celtic 3 v 0 Benfica Euro Miller - Nakamura - Caldwell
21-Oct-06 Celtic 2 v 1 Motherwell SPL Nakamura - Zurawski - Telfer
29-Oct-06 Killie 1 v 2 Celtic SPL Telfer - Maloney - Nakamura
04-Nov-06 Celtic 2 v 1 Hearts SPL Nakamura - McManus - Telfer
18-Nov-06 Celtic 3 v 0 ITC SPL Nakamura - JV of Hesselink - Naylor
21-Nov-06 Celtic 1 v 0 Man Utd Euro Naylor - Boruc - Nakamura
02-Dec-06 Celtic 1 v 0 Aberdeen SPL McGeady - Nakamura - Lennon
06-Dec-06 Copenhagen 3 v 1 Celtic Euro Nakamura - Naylor - Jarosik
10-Dec-06 Dunfermline 1 v 2 Celtic SPL McGeady - Nakamura - O'Dea
23-Dec-06 Celtic 1 v 0 Falkirk SPL Gravesen - Boruc - Nakamura
26-Dec-06 Celtic 2 v 2 Dundee Utd SPL Nakamura - O'Dea - Riordan
30-Dec-06 Motherwell 1 v 1 Celtic SPL Boruc - Nakamura - Riordan
02-Jan-07 Celtic 2 v 0 Killie SPL Nakamura - Jarosik - Riordan
06-Jan-07 Celtic 4 v 0 Dumbarton Scottish Cup 3rd Rd Zurawski - Nakamura - Naylor
14-Jan-07 Hearts 1 v 2 Celtic SPL Nakamura - Pressley - O'Dea
20-Jan-07 Celtic 5 v 1 St Mirren SPL JV of Hesselink - Gravesen - Nakamura
04-Feb-07 Livingston 1 v 4 Celtic Scottish Cup 4th Rd Nakamura - Riordan - JV of Hesselink
10-Feb-07 Celtic 1 v 0 Hibs SPL Nakamura - Hartley - Boruc
17-Feb-07 Aberdeen 1 v 2 Celtic SPL Nakamura - Boruc - JV of Hesselink
25-Feb-07 ICT 1 v 2 Celtic Scottish Cup 5th Rd Nakamura - Pressley - Sno
18-Mar-07 Falkirk 1 v 0 Celtic SPL Nakamura - Boruc - Hartley
31-Mar-07 Dundee Utd 1 v 1 Celtic SPL McGeady - Nakamura - O'Dea
07-Apr-07 Celtic 1 v 0 Motherwell SPL McGeady - Riordan - Nakamura
22-Apr-07 Killie 1 v 2 Celtic SPL Nakamura - Kennedy - JV of Hesselink
26-May-07 Celtic 1 v 0 Dunfermline Scottish Cup Final Doumbe - Miller - Nakamura

That's 31 games he was voted one of Celtic's top 3 players last season. Thirty bloody one! 17 home and 14 away games. 12 of those he was voted the number 1.

Strachan mentioned in his autobiography that he was once given a rating of 5/10 when it was in his opinion and the opinion of his players and coaching staff a 9 or 10 out of 10. He got a DVD of the match for his son because Naka was so good. Only those who watch and support Celtic every week know what Naka is about and how good he is. That's a fact from my experience.

Celtic fans must be biased towards the Japanese or else he scored loads of freekicks last season. It's such a credit that Nakamura succeeded where so many of his type have failed in the SPL.

eirebhoy

Just to add to the above, see the Hearts away game above that he was voted man of the match in? I posted on Eirebear's favourite Rangers forum before the game about Naka. That's pretty much all I posted about on those forums because I'd give my left nut for Naka to get the appreciation he deserves outside of Celtic. Anyway, I told them to watch him very closely and you'll see how good a player he really is. Straight after the match I had someone thinking he was great asking what he had done. He had been the most influential player on the pitch yet this guy really couldn't see that. It wasn't down to bias because he praised one or 2 of the other Celtic players.

Eirebear

Rangers 0-0 Plastic Whistle Half Time :eek:
EDIT: 0-1 Thistle...
EDIT 1-1 Boyd hits back immediatly

Eirebear

Finished 1-1.....well we were worried about not having enough games to play i suppose...:rolleyes:

Badabing

When are they going to fit that replay in?:eek:

Eirebear

Badabing wrote: »

When are they going to fit that replay in?:eek:

God knows mate....seems that the next free date we have is semi final weekend!

madness it is...madness.

KdjaCL

Eirebear wrote: »

God knows mate....seems that the next free date we have is semi final weekend!

madness it is...madness.

The old:

if you dont want too many games then stop winning them

Chestnut comes to mind.

Altho Plastic Whistle ...thats worse than been beaten by aberdeen at home


kdjac

Eirebear

KdjaCL wrote: »

The old:

if you dont want too many games then stop winning them

Chestnut comes to mind.

Altho Plastic Whistle ...thats worse than been beaten by aberdeen at home


kdjac

Or Postponing them to help your country to a defeat against Italy, or postponing them before european games, or postponing them due to the death of Phil O'Donnell.

Im not complaining about still being alive in all these tournaments kdjaCL....but the situation in Scotland is quite litterally critical now.

And no its not.....were still in the tournament!

I live just round the corner from Firhill....i aint moving my car for anyone that day, i'll never get parked again!

Nunu

Perhaps they should extend the season by a couple of weeks instead of cramming the games in? Why not play right up to the weekend before the international friendly mid week at the end of May?

Actually, how many SPL players will be at Euro '08?

Edit: just thinking the 'split' is gonna **** everthing up?!

Eirebear

Nunu wrote: »

Perhaps they should extend the season by a couple of weeks instead of cramming the games in? Why not play right up to the weekend before the international friendly mid week at the end of May?

Actually, how many SPL players will be at Euro '08?

Im unsure TBH, i dont think its all that many actually seeing as there is no England Ireland or Scotland there.

The idea of extending the season has been put in place, but the SPL dont seem to want to let this happen....coz theyre arses.

KdjaCL

Eirebear wrote: »

Or Postponing them to help your country to a defeat against Italy, or postponing them before european games, or postponing them due to the death of Phil O'Donnell.

Im not complaining about still being alive in all these tournaments kdjaCL....but the situation in Scotland is quite litterally critical now.

And no its not.....were still in the tournament!

I live just round the corner from Firhill....i aint moving my car for anyone that day, i'll never get parked again!

Critical only because you won in UEFA other wise you be fine, stop winning games.

Every ****ing year someone complains about too many games in whatever league, simple solution is stop winning them. otherwise ehh shut up and enoy that fact you in, if you not in you cant win.

kdjac

Eirebear

KdjaCL wrote: »

Critical only because you won in UEFA other wise you be fine, stop winning games.

Every ****ing year someone complains about too many games in whatever league, simple solution is stop winning them. otherwise ehh shut up and enoy that fact you in, if you not in you cant win.

kdjac

No mate, thats not the case at all.

Yes part of it is our own fault due to the postponements early on, but a lot of it is down to the craziness that has been Fir Park, we havnt really caught up since Christmas.
As i say, im not actually complaining about having too many games....just about not having enough days to play them on!

Celtic have had the same problem, as will Motherwell, Dundee Utd and if they stay alive Gretna.

Erin Go Brath

Well at least Celtic cant be accused of winning all their games at the moment. :mad::o:rolleyes:

Will fixture congestion affect Rangers in the C'ship run is the big question?


We are effectively 6 points behind in the league, and not playing at all well. I really don't think we're going to win anything this season unless we serious krank it up a notch, and NOW!!! Like many i'm not brimming with confidence about our chances. I haven't given up hope...just yet but the doom and gloom isnt far away.

Eirebear

Erin Go Brath wrote: »

:mad::o:rolleyes:

Youve just perfectly described how strachan must be feeling right now!

Badabing

Celtic v Rangers April 16th 7.45 confirmed.

Erin Go Brath

Badabing wrote: »

Celtic v Rangers April 16th 7.45 confirmed.

Evening ko, surely not?

Badabing

Erin Go Brath wrote: »

Evening ko, surely not?

100%, on Celtic, Setanta, spl websites.

jimmyboy

Badabing wrote: »

Celtic v Rangers April 16th 7.45 confirmed.

DANGER!

A Dub in Glasgo

Gretna 0 - 3 Celtic

McDonald (assist JVoH)
JVoH (assist McGeady)
Samaras (assist McGeady)

Not the best performance from Celtic

A Dub in Glasgo

Blast from the past here, how times have changed

Rangers forward Ronald de Boer has branded Old Firm rivals Celtic moaners for protesting over fixture congestion.

And Dunfermline Athletic chairman John Yorkston fears that a delay to setting the date of the final Old Firm match will hit other clubs in the pocket.

The reigning champions have accused the Scottish Premier League of bias for insisting they play Rangers in a potentially crucial league clash three days after their Uefa Cup second leg tie against Boavista in Portugal.

But de Boer said fixture pile-ups were part and parcel of being a top European club and advised Celtic to accept their lot.

"The date is set and that's it," the Dutchman said. "If you look at Manchester United, they played Liverpool then Real Madrid, then Newcastle and Arsenal.

"They have another game before they play Madrid for the second time, but I don't see them complaining.

Like most clubs, we need a few weeks to sell hospitality

Dunfermline chairman John Yorkston
"You have to be happy that you are involved in those games and I would love to be in that position.

"It could be negative for Celtic, but it could be negative for us if they come through the semi-final and are feeling great."

The final five fixtures of the season were due to be announced on Monday, but the SPL will consider Celtic's appeal on Thursday.

Yorkston said: "Of course, it is hampering our preparations. We are due three home and two away games after the SPL split.

"We have to get the police involved and organise hospitality. Like most clubs, we need a few weeks to sell hospitality.

"If we are going to be given one week to sell that, it is not going to be great. It certainly isn't going to be a help.

"We know we are going to be at home to Hearts, Kilmarnock and Celtic, so our commercial department is poised for a big push on Thursday once we know what the fixtures will be.

"We have got a massive mail-shot ready, but we just need to know which teams we are playing."

Alex McLeish, the Rangers manager, has told Celtic to be "thankful" for their European adventure instead of complaining over the date the SDcottish Premier League has fixed for the final Old Firm game of the season.
The game has been scheduled for 27 April – two days after Celtic return from the second leg of their Uefa Cup semi-final against Boavista in Portugal. Ian McLeod, the Celtic chief executive, claimed his side will be "competitively disadvantaged" by the decision.
In contrast, the league leaders Rangers went out of the Uefa Cup at the first hurdle when they were defeated by the little-known Czech Republic side Viktoria Zizkov. And McLeish believes Celtic should be thankful that they have managed to progress so far in Europe this year.
"I hope that someday I can be in the same position, and that Rangers can be in the same position – that would be great, it would be fantastic," he said. "I'll be treating it like any other Old Firm game but there will be plenty of time to talk about that then."

Short memories from the media and the Rangers camp eh?

Eirebear

Dont you worry ADIG, by the time we have to play 4 games in 8 days well already be well on the road to 52.
You just look forward to your wee japanese holiday.

PauloMN

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Short memories from the media and the Rangers camp eh?

Yep, they should never have been allowed postpone their Gretna game before Lyon either IMO.

Also, wait to see the miraculous recoveries of the 4 x Rangers players that didn't play last night.

JVoH scored for Holland last night, I think Samaras played for Greece also. Poland got beaten 3-0 by the USA though... :eek:

mike65

Will Gretna survive the to the end of the season? Its seems crazy that they could be allowed to fail mid season.

Mike.

Eirebear

PauloMN wrote: »

Yep, they should never have been allowed postpone their Gretna game before Lyon either IMO.

Also, wait to see the miraculous recoveries of the 4 x Rangers players that didn't play last night.

JVoH scored for Holland last night, I think Samaras played for Greece also. Poland got beaten 3-0 by the USA though... :eek:

And the miraculous recovery of Skippy who pulled out of a game which actually MEANT something to his country....:rolleyes:

PauloMN

Eirebear wrote: »

And the miraculous recovery of Skippy who pulled out of a game which actually MEANT something to his country....:rolleyes:

Yeah, that trip down to Hampden Park is a real killer for the huns eh? :rolleyes:

Eirebear

PauloMN wrote: »

Yeah, that trip down to Hampden Park is a real killer for the huns eh? :rolleyes:

Considering the fixtures we have between now and the end of the season i think its perfectly acceptable that they didnt want to play in a meaningless, pointless, friendly. One that even the Tartan Army failed to get themselves out in numbers for.

If your gonna sign players from the other side of the world you need to accept the fact that they have to travel in order to play for their country.
McDonalds game during the week was not meaningless or pointless by any stretch of the imagination. It was a world cup qualifier.

Once again though, spend your time trying to paint Rangers as bad whilst forgetting about your own failings....its the Celtic way isnt it?

PauloMN

Travelling to China is a bit different though than travelling down the road - that's my point.

But even Hampden was too far for the proud captain Bazza and co.

Celtic had 7 players playing international football last night (assuming Boruc played for Poland last night, I think he did). I don't think we can be accused of unnessessarily pulling out of international games.

PauloMN

As for the tartan army, considering only one hun turned up, why would they?

Eirebear

PauloMN wrote: »

As for the tartan army, considering only one hun turned up, why would they?

ouch! I doubt the majority of the teuchters in the tartan army are bluenoses...:D

A Dub in Glasgo

Most of the Rangers injured will have to pass Hampden to get to Ibrox. Comparing a round trip to China midweek with a round trip to Hampden is a bit much. I don't know why the players do not come out with the truth ie I would prefer to pass on this opportunity to play for my country as my employer has an important game on Saturday. Instead, they hide behind the medical excuse.

Eirebear

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Most of the Rangers injured will have to pass Hampden to get to Ibrox. Comparing a round trip to China midweek with a round trip to Hampden is a bit much. I don't know why the players do not come out with the truth ie I would prefer to pass on this opportunity to play for my country as my employer has an important game on Saturday. Instead, they hide behind the medical excuse.

I dont know why they dont come out with the truth either.

But comparing a meaningless friendly to a world cup qualifier is much like comparing a trip to hampden and a trip to ibrox IMO...especialy when your a striker and your team drew 0-0 with china...

PauloMN

Further twist in the story:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football-news/old-firm/2008/03/28/celtic-want-answers-after-robson-sent-home-by-scotland-86908-20365466/

Was watching the Daily Huddle last night and Strachan mentioned something about Robson being sent home from the Scotland squad after making himself available to play.

And, as expected of course...

Rangers' assistant boss Ally McCoist revealed just 24 hours later that Ferguson, McGregor, Dailly and McCulloch would all be ready for the visit of Celtic.

That visit to Lourdes really paid off.

FRM

Now now now whats all this being reported about Uefa looking into some shennanigans in Barcelona by the Greatest Supporters in thre world..... tut tut tut....

Scottish Sun page 19 -

Celtic are facing a UEFA rap after sick fans were filmed belting out bigoted chants in Barcelona

Scores of boozy morons were caught screaming f*** the Queen and pro-IRA slogans during a giant outdoor bash thrown for the recent Champions League clash.

A string of the hate-filled mobile phone clips quickly sprang up on the internet. And now the Parkhead club could be hauled before Euro football chiefs to explain the shameful scenes.

Last night a UEFA spokesman said "The disciplinary department has opened an investigation following their watching and assessment of the footage."

Around 10,000 Hoops fans invaded Barcelona earlier this month for the match,which the Spanish side won 1-0, but a minority of yobs trashed the reputation of decent supporters.

Several vile videos were even shot at the official Celtic Meeting Point fans' zone - as well as various bars.

A UEFA source said "If the investigation is conclusive, it will turn into a disciplinary case"

Rangers were rapped two years ago for sectarian chanting during their UEFA Cup match with Villareal in Spain.





Can I ask the Celtic supporters what they honestly think of Gary 'bombscare' Caldwell? Good to see him spouting off in the papers and media again this morning..... keep it up Gary....

Rumour doing the rounds is that Balde will be in the team tomorrow as well...

PauloMN

Has Gary Caldwell said something to offend you? I don't like him much as a player but I can't disagree with anything he has said in his press conference.

As for Balde, he's fit and in the squad for tomorrow according to CelticTV.

FRM

He doesn't offend me lol..... Keep the good work up is what I say to Gary...

What I would say is that he should concentrate more on his football rather than his after speech dinner routines every big match......

PauloMN

FRM wrote: »

He doesn't offend me lol..... Keep the good work up is what I say to Gary...

Just wanted to check. Rangers fans are delicate little chaps and get offended by lots of things.

FRM wrote: »

What I would say is that he should concentrate more on his football rather than his after speech dinner routines every big match......

Yeah, well I guess he tries. The "after dinner speech" was just the usual pre-match media thing AFAIK, nothing unusual about that.

Like I say, I'm no big fan of Caldwell, but I don't think he's quite as bad as people make out. I would like to see him replaced next season that being said.

At least he had the balls to play on Wednesday for his country, unlike the "Old Firm 5" as the media are calling them. 80% of whom of course were perfectly fit huns, and the other 20% was a Celtic player who wanted to play but wasn't allowed to. :rolleyes: Gotta love the Scottish press spin.

andrewie

Caldwell has been pretty dire this season and has cost Celtic in some matches.

Suit him better to spend more time on the training pitch than in the papers tbh.

Eirebear

Im honestly finding it really quite bizzare just how annoyed Celtic fans are about Rangers player not playing in a meaningless friendly for Scotland.....when was the last time any of them gave a **** about the national team?

PauloMN

andrewie wrote: »

Suit him better to spend more time on the training pitch than in the papers tbh.

:D That's the funniest thing I've read on here for ages!

PauloMN

Eirebear wrote: »

Im honestly finding it really quite bizzare just how annoyed Celtic fans are about Rangers player not playing in a meaningless friendly for Scotland.....when was the last time any of them gave a **** about the national team?

It's not that. I really couldn't give a toss about Rangers players playing or not playing for the national team.

The fake injuries thing is the bit that gets me. Trying to make people believe they are injured when they clearly were not. Especially the captain who I would have thought would have more pride for his country than that. Doesn't say much for what he thinks of Scotland.

Even Burley fell for it, or maybe wanted to be seen as falling for it:

Burley said on Monday: "I would say maybe one or two might have a chance of being fit to play this weekend. Quite a number don't."

Come on George FFS, the huns just had you on mate!

FRM

Eirebear are the excuses already being lined up for next week by the Scottish loving Celtic supporters in here? :D:D

Funny how there is no comment on the Barcelona behaviour after you were slaughtered in here not so long agao about a little article you posted.... Ah it's the Celtic way to be selective after all.....

Wonder if the Car Park will be full on Saturday if they do get beat.....

Eirebear

PauloMN wrote: »

It's not that. I really couldn't give a toss about Rangers players playing or not playing for the national team.

The fake injuries thing is the bit that gets me. Trying to make people believe they are injured when they clearly were not. Especially the captain who I would have thought would have more pride for his country than that. Doesn't say much for what he thinks of Scotland.

Even Burley fell for it, or maybe wanted to be seen as falling for it:


Come on George FFS, the huns just had you on mate!

TBH, ferguson had missed the Partick Thistle game due to his ankle injury, Dailly had a suspected broken toe and Davie Weir is surely allowed a wee rest at his age!

In all honesty i would much rather Burley had turned round and said he wasnt gonna call up any old firm players....but that idea went out the window when Celtic crashed and burned in the Scottish cup...freeing up their fixture list.

FRM: Did you really expect a reply to that? Some of the videos ive seen have been disgusting....although the guy burning the UJ and trying to stamp it out on the ground while wearing those plastic "croc" shoes was hilarious...:D

FRM

The silence is always deafening from the East end of the city on certain things.....

Eirebear there seems to be the possibility of a tImplosion tomorrow if the result goes the wrong way for them..... they are getting all heat up over Scotland after all.... what will the wrong result do to them!!!