Government Report Tells Us Ireland is Really Crap for BB

Sponge Bob

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We are still crap and with the chaos in NTL and the collapse of Smart and the uselessneess of Comreg and of Dempsey we will get worse (relatively) next year.

What a palaver Page 15 shows that the Czechs and the Slovenians and the Portugese have gone ahead of us while Estonia and Malta disappear off ahead in a cloud of dust . Lithuania :eek: snaps at our heels.

We have the lowest speeds from any incumbent operator , the max eircom package is 5mbits while most of eircoms peers do 10mbits or more .

Some ' knowledge economy ' we are. Dempsey is in Vietnam this week to get some lowdown on the major threat to the celtic tiger from that quarter, anything but the day job eh Noel ???:(

Noel said the following to the Vietnamese during his big Vietnamese speech.

Speaking today Minister Dempsey said "In recent years ICT has played an increasingly important role in the development of social and economic cooperation between Asia and Europe. The different levels of ICT development in ASEM member countries presents an opportunity for joint meetings such as this to help bridge the digital divide. Given Ireland's track record in the area of ICT development we have a lot to offer other countries in terms of expertise and best practice. Ireland can also learn from the experiences of other ASEM members who have rolled out effective ICT strategies in recent years."

Please stay there Noel , your pension will go a long long long way in Vietnam .

playwert

god.......kill demnsey!
one of the major problems is the fact in many rural areas,broadband isnt avialable.
i dont think eircom should be blamed for not setting it up,in areas where profit's not gonna happen,but the government should, either upgrade all the phone exhanges needed in the whole country,and [relitively cheap] set up 100 percent GOOD wireless broadband covrage

pm.

playwert wrote:

god.......kill demnsey!
one of the major problems is the fact in many rural areas,broadband isnt avialable.
i dont think eircom should be blamed for not setting it up,in areas where profit's not gonna happen,but the government should, either upgrade all the phone exhanges needed in the whole country,and [relitively cheap] set up 100 percent GOOD wireless broadband covrage

maybe eircom are not fully to blame but imo they could do a lot more than they are, example for rural areas the could lower the connection cost of there wireless bb and make it knowing that they can facilitate a lot more people in rural areas than they are:mad:

leeroybrown

pm. wrote:

maybe eircom are not fully to blame but imo they could do a lot more than they are, example for rural areas the could lower the connection cost of there wireless bb and make it knowing that they can facilitate a lot more people in rural areas than they are:mad:

Eircom are largely to blame as they have been deliberately stalling the introduction of broadband for years. Why spend money on equipment that will make you less profit than your existing POTS/ISDN dial-up business. The government take their share of the blame for letting them take advantage of the situation.

netwhizkid

playwert wrote:

god.......kill demnsey!
one of the major problems is the fact in many rural areas,broadband isnt avialable.
i dont think eircom should be blamed for not setting it up,in areas where profit's not gonna happen,but the government should, either upgrade all the phone exhanges needed in the whole country,and [relitively cheap] set up 100 percent GOOD wireless broadband covrage

The fact of the matter is once you go outside the Cities and County Capitals Broadband is nowhere to be found, the majority of the towns have broadband now eg. Killarney etc.

However that isn't much good to those living as little as three miles in some cases from the Exchange. Eircom's Broadband has very little reach away from the Exchange compared with BT in Britain where it is something like 10KM, Even when you are than far away you will still benefit from "Always On" and can always go for a faster package that will deliver the speed you would get if you lived closer to the exchange.

If you live in any rural village or rural part of the countryside then broadband will most likely never arrive unless you are lucky enough to be in a swathe of Wireless Signal. Eircom should be made roll out 100% Broadband and the government should assist considering they created the whole mess in the first place by Privatizing Eircom.

Eircom's network is in S*it and needs big investment and really FTTH should be rolled out ASAP, the thing is with every new copper cable Eircom install they are wasting 80% of their investment as these things usually work out at 80% Labour 20% Material, Fibre is much faster and cheaper in the long run as its maintainance costs are much much less. They could run rings of fibre to the extent where it could be coupled with a DSLAM in a Junction box and run DSL over the copper the final distance, the whole aim being 100% broadband on every telephone number working off the exchange.

There is savage demand for Broadband when it is there, an example is CastletownBERE in Cork. This Fishing Town has been upgraded to ADSL from Eircom sometime last year on a Community Group Broadband Scheme, Names were gathered a plan put in place and Eircom were then subsidised to enable the Exchange.

The Biggest problem was people were waiting a few weeks as there was such a backlog of new orders for DSL, Technicians had to go to work to insure the wiring quality was up to speck etc. People all over the Town have got it and the sort of people who to look at you might imagine could hardly turn on a TV have computers and using Broadband.

There is not an uptake issue, the problem is facing into 2007 a large proportion of Irish people have no access to Broadband and I would put it on parallel with the Railways in the 19th Century a massive network was built which enabled people to travel for the first time and do business, open new opportunities etc. The exact same thing applies to Broadband. It is another shining example of how Fianna Fail don't a toss about the people of Rural Ireland.

Use your Vote Wisely People,

Sponge Bob

netwhizkid wrote:

There is not an uptake issue, the problem is facing into 2007 a large proportion of Irish people have no access to Broadband and I would put it on parallel with the Railways in the 19th Century a massive network was built which enabled people to travel for the first time and do business, open new opportunities etc. The exact same thing applies to Broadband. It is another shining example of how Fianna Fail don't a toss about the people of Rural Ireland.

Absolutely , 10m extra next year form the government for rural Ireland according to the Book of Estimates and then Dempsey fecks off to Vietnam to boast to the Vietnamese about how well he is doing and what they could learn from us .

Bad enough being the laughing stock of Europe without having Dempsey off doing a FF Yahoo Yahoo Technology Apocalypse for the Vietnamese.:(

qwertplaywert

dempshesy.......this the dude who PROMISHED full covrage by start of 03

spurious

Smart are still in business and still supplying the best broadband in the country.
There IS an alternative.

watty

Smart are still in business. But other people such as Magnet do higher speed broadband than eircom. If less than 6Mbps is fine there are other suppliers with reliebale products (not eircom bitstream resale) and Smart only have a small geographic coverage percentage of DSL lines, much less than eircom. Probabily less than 1/2 the population can get DSL at all as 31% don't even have a phone line. So the remainder a percentage can get various Wireless Broadband.

About 30% can only get Satellite.

Smart is an alternative for a small percentage of people and may not be the "best" broadband for many of those people's needs. In locations with fibre Digiweb and Magnet may even be able to supply faster broadband.

Sponge Bob

Dempsey has taken acting comreg commissioner ( job never advertised) Mike Byrne and made acting commissioner Byrne chair of Comreg. Noel is in Vietnam where the bueno caca is cheap but surely some minion could have sent him to bed and made him revisit the issue in the morning !

Legally does that mean he is acting chair too or is he a full chairman but still an acting commisssioner ?? Are any comreg decisions legal any more while the acting commissioner has not been properly appointed to an advertised job ???? Is it possible for an Acting Commissioner (he still is) to be Chairperson of Comreg or does that have to be a proper commissioner of which there is only one now , John Doherty .???

Who gets the casting vote or can an acting commissioner vote twice, once as acting commissioner with the same standing as a full commissioner and then again as chair , why should an acting commissioners vote count for the same as a full commissioners vote before the acting commissioner casts the chairmans vote , surely it should never get to that so the casting vote is irrelevant here ???

Are they going to act another fool up or advertise a commissionership one wonders, or does it matter any more , does that person as a proper full commissioner become more seniour than an acting commissioner even if the acting commissioner is also chair ??

eircom is laughing all the way to the bank of course, Byrne is the man who decided the Internet is fully Functional at 0k in 2003 .

No wonder the country is ****ed