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  • 01-12-2006 12:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Do you think that there should be a class set aside for the final day of Primary School to tell kids once and for all that there is no Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy or Easter Bunny.

    Christmas should be a time of fun, presents and bells that jingle but for Pighead its a time of humiliation and painful memories.

    All through my teenage years the lads tried to tell me that the big fat red man didn't exist, everytime I responded by claiming I'd seen him when I was 9 and that they were all wrong. Imagine my embarrasment when my mother sat me down to give me the "talk".

    Finding out that neither God nor the tooth fairy exists is tough enough but to finish off her story by saying "Oh yeah and that whole Santa thing is poppycock too" was a crushing blow.

    It seems that a lot of people are beginning to reject the whole Santa notion and tell their kids at an extremely early age that he's a myth, probably to save themselves from years of lying and deciet.

    What age will you tell you're kids that there is no Santa?

    How old is too old for kids to believe in big fat red men? 99 votes

    Let nature run its course, done me no harm.
    0%
    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    41%
    sixpack's little hatStarkMackerCivilServantStargalpetesAPMSuaimhneachneacy69User45701grumpytrousersNaosold boyNotMeZombienoshSkellingtonPlugpbsuxok1znja4rp~bikol 41 votes
    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    31%
    StephenKintarō Hattoritony 2 tonenobodytherescojonesRabiesPonsterShabaduTime MagazineCiaran500RbDemonOfTheFallRoviSparkyRoadSweepercooperguyPigheadcounty6thjuliuspret 31 votes
    What do you mean theres no Santa?
    10%
    impOur man in HavanaGurgleAdamSad Professor5starpool[Deleted User]Max_Damageiceman777fatgav 10 votes
    Atari Reindeer
    17%
    DingatronmonumentBeruthielnetwhizkidMad Mikemp3guycornbbPatricideIrishpimpdudeed6hellsfreshswingkingeamossLéanMushyJack B. BaddBlack Swanmaxi-twist 17 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    You actually got the talk?
    Pighead wrote:
    probably to save themselves from years of lying and deciet

    Nothing to do with the cash then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Wait, what? :(


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    I won't, I'll leave them find out themselfs in their own way

    As a child, christmas losses its special feeling when you find out there's no Santa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    petes wrote:
    You actually got the talk?
    They felt they had to give it to me in the end. They were sick of being known as "The parents of the 17 year old spanner who still believed in Santa"

    Oh and thanks for highlighting Pigheads mistake in spelling "deceit". Hope you feel proud when they all laugh at me petes. Thanks for nothing pal.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Next you'll be telling me there's no Allah :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    I expected porn in this thread but I'll get over it.

    I will keep up the pretence with my kid(s) until they are 10.

    I will wait til they are 16 before I tell them that everyone on the internet is actually a guy though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    Theres no santa?????!!!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,337 ✭✭✭Archeron


    I stopped believing in big fat red men many moons ago, but my two week holiday in an Irish resort in Malta last year renewed my faith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    Pighead wrote:

    Oh and thanks for highlighting Pigheads mistake in spelling "deceit". Hope you feel proud when they all laugh at me petes. Thanks for nothing pal.


    All part of the service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭Dingatron


    Atari Reindeer
    Well my kids are 5 and 7. I won't be telling them as this usually happens in primary school when some smart kid stumbles upon all the presents due to a careless hiding place chosen by a parent, who in turn found all the presents themselves when they were young'uns. I believe its a genetic thing. If all this is true my 7 year old has already found out and is now telling all her friends.:eek:


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jazlynn Flabby Easel


    What do you mean theres no Santa?
    I think I'd prefer not lying to them in the first place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    never mind this, the real issue is those oh-so-clever parents who infrom their 7 year old there is no santa and now lets go into town and buy your presents together. Of course this 7 year old (who's probably as a big a di*khead as its parents) then informs all of its class mates of the glad news that santa is a crock of sh***e.

    Right thinking parents should be allowed to form into posses and burn such di*kheads in their houses as they sleep, thus insuring the magic of chritsmas survives :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    bluewolf wrote:
    I think I'd prefer not lying to them in the first place

    And deny them something which we all enjoyed. All in all the excitement I felt on a Christmas Eve completely outweighed the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Dingatron wrote:
    I believe its a genetic thing. If all this is true my 7 year old has already found out and is now telling all her friends.:eek:

    just out of curiosity like, what's your address??


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jazlynn Flabby Easel


    What do you mean theres no Santa?
    petes wrote:
    And deny them something which we all enjoyed. All in all the excitement I felt on a Christmas Eve completely outweighed the truth.
    I don't need a madeup character to enjoy xmas
    I don't think I ever did
    I was as happy after as before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    i cant even remember when/how i found out its something i have ever reley thought about TBH. i dont reley think too much about x-mass i try not too 1/2 of it is a chour (spending time with family) and the other 1/2 is drinking in the pub with friends is fun but can be areck the buzz....

    It costs allot aswell


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    Atari Reindeer
    Santa Claus FTW, I discovered my letter to him in my fathers car sometime in February when I was about 9 or 10 and that confirmed to me that he was made up. However I continued to play ignorant and milk the system until they told me and then of course I was very upset.

    Also seeing Santa visiting my neighbour at about 9.30pm and he wouldn't visit us until we were given a few spoons of Benylin and he would visit during the night also left me wondering. I also discovered Benylin makes you drowsey and it was a treat for me to be given it as I loved the taste of it along with Vivioptal and some other child-hood medicines.

    I laugh back at it now and find no harm whatsoever in it. But would have been really mad if I had been told by another child or the school Teacher like my sister was aged 6 :mad: :mad: I think Santa made Christmas for us and I can remember waking at about 4 or 5 in the morning and sneaking up to see if he had visited yet.

    Anyone who tells a Child is simply heartless and instantly takes away that little bit of childhood innocence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    With more and more kids using the Internet these days, this little myth will soon die out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭oRlyYaRly


    If they don't know by 6th class, spill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Just show them this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ50F_LLjAw

    Will make it easier to come to terms with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    Theres no santa?????!!!:eek:
    Sorry to be the one to break it to you Siogfinsceal.

    http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Santa's Grave.jpg


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,437 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    netwhizkid wrote:
    Santa Claus FTW, I discovered my letter to him in my fathers car sometime in February when I was about 9 or 10.

    Same as that, but my father told me he didn't 'actually' need to get the letter because he knows all. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Mad Mike


    Atari Reindeer
    Pighead, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, pighead, whether they be human or porcine, are little. In this great universe of ours, man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect as compared with the boundless world about him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge.

    Yes, Pighead, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as alcohol and pornography, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus! It would be as dreary as if there were no Pigheads. There would be no childlike posting then, no grunting, no outbursts to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The external light with which pighead fills the world would be extinguished.

    Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in men who fancy other men. You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if you did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither pigs nor men can see. Did you ever see men who fancy other men dancing on the lawn? Probably not, but that’s no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.

    You tear apart the baby’s rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived could tear apart. Only faith, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, Pighead, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding.

    No Santa Claus! Thank God! he lives and lives forever. A thousand years from now, Pighead, nay 10 times 10,000 years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.

    (With apologies to the memory of Francis P. Church.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Meh, I pretended I still believed for 2 years so I could ask for more stuff.

    My evil older sister told me when I was about 7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    Hmm, I'd leave it until the year before they enter second level schooling. That's roughly when little ol' me twigged that all my friends were asking me what I was getting 'for Christmas' and not 'from Santa' :(

    I do remember a girl in my class telling a group of us when we were about 7 but I didn't believe her :D I was so innocent :) Carried on believing for a few more years.

    I do think that kids should get a good few years out of it. It's a special magical time for them where the world is full of all sorts of possibilities, why spoil it?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Atari Reindeer
    Not only is there a santa, but he's a member of boards!
    Further proof that Piggie knows fuk all....
    Is all this cos he didn't come visit you in the last few years Piggie?
    That's what happens when you're a bold boy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    Beruthiel wrote:
    N
    That's what happens when you're a bold boy.


    He'll take that as talking dirty!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Mrs_Doyle


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    My lil sis is 11, and she is in 6th class. Last year she 80% beleived but this year she knows full well there is no such thing.
    When she asked me, I was unsure what to say but my Mam reckoned she was old enough now to be told the truth.
    So this will be the first year, in my whole life, that Santa wont be coming to my house.
    *Sniff* That kinda makes me feel a bit teary!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    Mrs_Doyle wrote:
    So this will be the first year, in my whole life, that Santa wont be coming to my house.
    *Sniff* That kinda makes me feel a bit teary!:(


    Did you get any extra presents from Santa when she did believe? Know some people who did to keep up the pretense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    Bambi wrote:
    never mind this, the real issue is those oh-so-clever parents who infrom their 7 year old there is no santa and now lets go into town and buy your presents together. Of course this 7 year old (who's probably as a big a di*khead as its parents) then informs all of its class mates of the glad news that santa is a crock of sh***e.

    Right thinking parents should be allowed to form into posses and burn such di*kheads in their houses as they sleep, thus insuring the magic of chritsmas survives :mad:
    Herself is a teacher and yes tossers such as those described above exist!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Peacheh wrote:
    Meh, I pretended I still believed for 2 years so I could ask for more stuff.

    My evil older sister told me when I was about 7.

    Not far off my own story but see another story below. :)

    Our teacher told us in 6th class anyway and make sure "not to tell the little ones in the younger classes". Lots of evil laughs from the bauld chaps down the back of the class.:(


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jazlynn Flabby Easel


    What do you mean theres no Santa?
    Do people really not figure it out even when they're 12?
    I must have been 7... maybe younger
    I know I pretended for a year or two for more stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    What do you mean theres no Santa?
    Scrap it tbh. The world has become far too materialistic.

    "OMG Mammy and Daddy look, Santa got me the very things I've been asking you for all year! And he built this xBox 360? He must be getting really good with a soldering iron! And his coding is top notch! Wow!" etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Mrs_Doyle


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    petes wrote:
    Did you get any extra presents from Santa when she did believe? Know some people who did to keep up the pretense.

    Oh yeah. I have been spoilt rotten by, em, Santa,

    Every Christmas morning my sister would Wake up at about 6 or 7. Now I know that might sound awful to most people, but it wasn't. She used to wake so early as she was so excited.
    We have a rule in our house, you can't go downstairs to see what Santa has brought until everyone is awake.
    This obviously adds to my sisters uncontrollable excitement as she runs about all of our bedrooms, pleading with us all to get up.
    Eventually, we all get up, and we congregate at the top of the stairs.
    Saoirse, that's my lil sis, she takes the lead. By the time she gets to the bottom of the stairs she is hopping up and down like a mad thing. She has to wait for my dad to give her the key to the living room door.(the door is always locked so we can say things like "wow, so Santa 'MUST' have got in through the Chimney!!!)
    She is so hysterical at this stage that she can hardly get the key into the lock, her hand is shaking so much.
    Anyhow, she finally gets the door open and then comes an unmerciful scream as she runs into the room, which is now full of presents.

    All of our presents are set out in bundles, so I have a bundle, she has a bundle, etc.

    She usually runs around the room saying things like:

    "Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Audrey, Oh My God, Santa must Looooove you, you got a mobile phone!, oh and Gavin, you got a psp, Ahhhh, and look, and look, I got a bike, and a video game, and a bratz van, and Oh My God, Audrey, LOOK! You got a GHD!!!"

    Oh God, I am actually feeling a bit sad about the fact that I wont get to enjoy any of that anymore.
    I still love Christmas, but there is nothing like a kids excitement to put the cherry on the cake.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Mrs_Doyle


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    This pic was taken on my Camera phone last Christmas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Scraggs


    My sis and I are 18 and 19. Santa still comes to us:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Adam


    What do you mean theres no Santa?
    Scraggs wrote:
    My sis and I are 18 and 19. Santa still comes to us:eek:
    I'm 20, my sis is 18, brother is 15 and the youngest is only 8 so we still have the privilage of Santa's presence :D

    We're fairly sure she knows its all a farce but I also think she has some comprehension of the fact that believing will be more "beneficial" for her! Clever bitch...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    I was never told that there was a santa, and I always felt a great smug sense of self satisfaction, because I knew something none of my friends knew! It was great being in on the secrets of the old people, I just felt so much more mature, knowing that there wasn't this mythical fat guy breaking into people's houses and such. And I think that's better than being lied to for your whole childhood, then driven to depression when you discover the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    Sofaspud wrote:
    I was never told that there was a santa, and I always felt a great smug sense of self satisfaction, because I knew something none of my friends knew! It was great being in on the secrets of the old people, I just felt so much more mature, knowing that there wasn't this mythical fat guy breaking into people's houses and such. And I think that's better than being lied to for your whole childhood, then driven to depression when I discover the truth.


    Driven to depression. I don't think its that bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    petes wrote:
    Driven to depression. I don't think its that bad.

    well, I was exaggerating slightly, but I've seen how devastated kids get.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    Beruthiel wrote:
    Not only is there a santa, but he's a member of boards!
    Further proof that Piggie knows fuk all....
    Is all this cos he didn't come visit you in the last few years Piggie?
    That's what happens when you're a bold boy.

    Ah right, Pighead didn't realise that if somebody chooses a username then they automatically become their username. Pigheads off to the Help Desk for a name change so.

    Beruthials Favourite Vibrator has a nice ring to it.
    Pighead is dead, long live the BFV!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    They should be told before secondary school to prevent bullying
    Sofaspud wrote:
    well, I was exaggerating slightly, but I've seen how devastated kids get.


    Character building. They probably got better presents the year they knw/were told anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    I found out before secondary, around 10 iirc.

    Its something that made christmas even more exciting, and it hasn't been the same since then tbh. The build up to Santa coming and all was unbelievable when I was a kid, could barely sleep knowing he was coming to give me presents, when I found out it was my parents it lost some of that excitement.
    I'll have my kids believing in Santa too.

    There was one kid in our school whos parents never played Santa, got the sh1te bullied out of him (not by me though), really made such a difficult time for himself throughout November til around February, for going around trying to convince people Santa wasn't real. Bad choice on his parents behalf tbh!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,353 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Atari Reindeer
    Never too old to have fun, but...

    If Santa's going to come down my chimney, he's gotta be slim, trim, and playful, or no cookies and milk!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Atari Reindeer
    Pighead wrote:
    Do you think that there should be a class set aside for the final day of Primary School to tell kids once and for all that there is no Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy or Easter Bunny.

    Not a good idea, I remember way back in 5th or 6th class the topic of Santa came up in the middle of a class, most of the class said ‘no such thing’, but one girl was in denial and got severely laughed at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,659 ✭✭✭Shabadu


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    My Mum told me when I was 7. I kept asking her why the really bold mean girl in my class was getting millions of presents when Mum was telling me Santa couldn't afford to make me a little typewriter. She was obviously feeling a bit emotional and stressed from guilt & just roared 'BECAUSE I'M SANTA CLAUS!'.

    I think she still hasn't forgiven herself, which is rather unfortunate as I can clearly see why she would have snapped after the millionth time a 7 year old questioned the justice of the North Pole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    The whole Santa charade should be scrapped. Lyings not cool.
    I found out when I was 6. My mam coming in the door early from work (unheard of) on a Thursday with a big smyths toystore plastic big with the toys.

    Instant reaction was "Oh that's the toy I wanted for Christmas"

    She quite blankly denied that I seen any toys in a bag and that I was daydreaming.

    A week of searching for where she hid them commenced. Of course the one room in the house that was locked was the parents bedroom.
    They were pretty much amateurs at doing the Christmas thing. I could hear them wrapping them on Christmas eve at 3 am. :)

    Oh and yeah, santa has some great writing. (Dads writing when he is drunk) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,036 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Snooping in my parent's room.. i found a Snes which i'd wanted! *

    Told my older sister who tried to deny it was for me.. but the damage was done.

    * ..yes, i was 21 at the time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,350 ✭✭✭Lust4Life


    I do feel funny trying to get my son to believe in Santa.
    We don't put a lot of emphasis on him.

    And then there's the really tough decision... should Santa be the one to give him the extremely awesome gift or should his parents be the heroes and Santa just gives extras?

    For me, it's all about the eggnog!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Atari Reindeer
    Can't remember my age, but I think it was early(ish) [err, I hope…]. I had my suspicions, so I put a finger print kit out. I asked Santa to kindly use the ink, and sign his name as well.

    The homemade suspect sheet was full in the morning but as I natively went about getting everyone's fingerprints – shock, shock, the chain of evidence went missing!!! What a sad young git I was.


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