Paul Heyman sent home

Vince135792003

From WWE.com so this obviously comes with a major BS warning but I think its pretty legit:

Distraught by the results of December to Dismember, ECW Representative Paul Heyman appeared to be distant and depressed this afternoon at the North Charleston Coliseum hours before an ECW live event.

This condition was further exasperated by Mr. McMahon, who decided to send Heyman home. The WWE Chairman cited slumping television ratings and a disgruntled talent roster as causes for Mr. Heyman’s dismissal.

Check back to ECW.com for updates on the status on Paul Heyman and ECW.

fatal

thats it,its over..i cant see ECW coming back from this

Vince135792003

From Big Dave Meltzer:

WWE.com listed that Vince McMahon sent Paul Heyman home today, citing declining TV ratings and a disgruntled talent roster. The way the story was written almost makes you think angle, but we shall see.

From Pwinsider:
Paul Heyman was sent home from today's Monday Night Raw/ECW taping in North Carolina following a meeting with Vince McMahon. We are still working on the story, but the word going around is that Heyman has been removed from the WWE's ECW creative team and looks to be entirely done with WWE at this point and time, although he's not (yet) been released from his contractual obligations.

According to one source, Heyman had a meeting with Vince McMahon and was then escorted from the venue. There is a meeting ongoing currently with ECW talents about Heyman's departure.


More from pwinsider:

As Mike reported a few minutes ago, Paul Heyman is gone from WWE. From talking to a number of people in company, the impression I received was that Vince McMahon was irate about how awful the PPV was last night and wanted to pin the blame on Heyman for it. Anyone who knows anything about Heyman's booking, as I have for years now, have a pretty good idea that the show was much more McMahon than Heyman. But according to people I spoke with, Heyman got pinned with the blame for it with the theory being that "he is caught in the past and doesn't understand the new vision of ECW". You know, the vision that ends PPVs a half hour early and makes the fans boo what WWE creative books for them.

The problems started yesterday at the ECW PPV when everyone realized that the show really stunk. Heyman was said to be unhappy with the way that the show was booked (big shock right) and sources backstage told me that he voiced that concern both before the show and after it. People at TV told me today that it was obvious that there were issues between Vince McMahon and Heyman because of the how the show played out on pay TV, with everyone knowing it was a disaster. Problems carried over from last night and led to the incidents that happened today.

A number of sources told me that there was a meeting today around two o'clock with Heyman, Vince McMahon and Stephanie McMahon-Levesque at the building. Heyman came out the meeting and seemed like his normal self, with no one I talked to having any idea that something bad had happened. Shortly thereafter, Heyman gathered his things and left the building to go home.

The word going around from everyone I talked to is that this is not a storyline in any way and he is legitimately done with the company.

fatal

lets see how ****ing terrible tonights show does with no input whatsoever from heyman.Its back enough already and I cant imagine how much worse it could be

Fozzy

When Heyman was talking in the ring last night I was thinking about how good a booker he is, it just sort of hit me cos I hadn't seen him in so long, and I was just thinkin of how useful he'd be out of WWE, because his talents are clearly being wasted there

If Heyman left WWE I'm sure it'd be good news for wrestling fans. Don't know if they'd release him though, they'll probably just make him sit at home. It really pisses me off when I think of the opportunity wasted. We could be watchin a good ECW program every week, maybe not the same as it used to be, but a lot better if Heyman had been the creative force

Furious-Red

if TNA get rid of Russo and bring in Heyman that would really help TNA (imo)

Fozzy

Can't see Cornette and Heyman workin together like that though

Dickmcsavage

Fozzy wrote:

If Heyman left WWE I'm sure it'd be good news for wrestling fans. Don't know if they'd release him though, they'll probably just make him sit at home. It really pisses me off when I think of the opportunity wasted. We could be watchin a good ECW program every week, maybe not the same as it used to be, but a lot better if Heyman had been the creative force

Well Heyman was a part of creative with ECW alright but as everyone knows, ultimatly Vince has to approve everything. Its amazing that Vince would plant the blame for the PPV solely on Heyman. I think Vince forgets that if it wasn't for that man, the attitude era would not have existed. Jesus, I'd just love to be a fly on the wall in WWE for a day just to hear all ****e decisions that are made and to see just how much Vince is in a world of his own.

nacho libre

I recently watched the McMahon DVD where Vince said people tend to blame other people for problems they themselves created.

"Hulkamania dies when Hogan dies, 'Woo' dies when Ric Flair dies, but when that man [Heyman] is gone and while he's gone, ECW will live on,"

Mr.Nice Guy

I can't believe this. Vince McMahon you are a joke.

Great people don't surround themselves with yes men, they surround themselves with people who are willing to speak out and be honest. Abraham Lincoln for example used to hire his political opponents as he knew they would tell him the truth rather than what he wanted to hear.

Vince McMahon however is such an egomaniac that he needs to surround himself with guys like Kevin Dunn who are wedged deep up his arse.

ECW is finished now and I for one hope Heyman heads to TNA. A company with Russo, Cornette and Heyman would be something wouldn't it. It would be Twilight Zone stuff.

Still, if TNA get Heyman for their booking team I'd rank the acquisition as being above Angle.

Edit: I'm pissed off about this so I just sent this to their feedback section...

"My comments are in relation to December to Dismember. I note you have now given Paul Heyman the boot from the company and have tried to pin that fiasco on him. Anyone with a brain cell knows that this was your usual Vince McMahon/Kevin Dunn/Stephanie McMahon-Levesque form of "sports entertainment".

"Well as someone who has been a long-time WWE fan and who has attended 3 WWE house shows in the past, I am now giving YOU notice that I am done watching your PPVs. The way you treat fans and people who love wrestling is a disgrace. You want to stick two fingers up at me? Well I'm now sticking two fingers up at you.

"You just lost yourself a customer. Stick your "sports entertainment" up your arse. I'll have WRESTLING thanks."

Not that I've paid for a PPV or anything (ahem) but they got my point.

Gizzle

From the very first ECW/WWE TV show, it was clear that this was a Vince Ego Project and Heyman was NEVER going to be able to ressurect ECW or use his creative flair (woo! Sorry). If Heyman does get released, I for one will be glad, not a moment too soon, perhaps then he'll be able to actually do what he does best without the bastardisation that is the "McMahon Veto" looming over his every decision.

Cactus Col

It'd be funny if ecw started being good from here on in

Mr.Nice Guy

Cactus Col wrote:

It'd be funny if ecw started being good from here on in

It would but knowing the WWE they'll probably give Heyman's old position to the fat naked oily guy.

b0bsquish

Id expect wwe to sit on heymans contract for the duration, there was reports before the ecw thing that paul had some sort of extreme mma type idea floating in his head so ya never know....

fatal

Mr.Nice Guy wrote:

Edit: I'm pissed off about this so I just sent this to their feedback section...

"My comments are in relation to December to Dismember. I note you have now given Paul Heyman the boot from the company and have tried to pin that fiasco on him. Anyone with a brain cell knows that this was your usual Vince McMahon/Kevin Dunn/Stephanie McMahon-Levesque form of "sports entertainment".

"Well as someone who has been a long-time WWE fan and who has attended 3 WWE house shows in the past, I am now giving YOU notice that I am done watching your PPVs. The way you treat fans and people who love wrestling is a disgrace. You want to stick two fingers up at me? Well I'm now sticking two fingers up at you.

"You just lost yourself a customer. Stick your "sports entertainment" up your arse. I'll have WRESTLING thanks."

Not that I've paid for a PPV or anything (ahem) but they got my point.

lol lets hope you get a reply of some sort...share it with us if you do.

I knew from the very start that this "new ECW" wasnt going to get anywhere and sooner or later vince and heyman were going to fall out.Vince hasnt even given heyman one opportunity to have an ECW show his way.Suddenly after this awful ppv its all heymans fault?BULL****!!!

Vince135792003

In a perverse way, I really want to see what WWE does with ECW without Heyman overseeing it.

Vince135792003

Further Dave Meltzer update:


Obviously the Paul Heyman situation is something that is going to require a major feature, but there is a lot that is out on the story that isn't correct. The story is not a work in the sense that Heyman was sent home, and the WWE web site reactions actually read like honest reactions. Everything reads on the web site as if it's storyline, and tonight with the Heyman promos, for those who are convinced it is, you'll have more ammunition. Except it's not. It was inevitable, for the same reasons it was inevitable that Heyman's previous runs in creative ended. There are two different ideas of what the business is, and the idea of the guy who owns the company will always win out at the end.

fatal

The following is taken from PWinsider:

Paul Heyman is gone from WWE. From talking to a number of people in the company, the impression I received was that Vince McMahon was irate about how awful the PPV was last night and wanted to pin the blame on Heyman for it. Anyone who knows anything about Heyman's booking, as I have for years now, have a pretty good idea that the show was much more McMahon than Heyman. But according to people I spoke with, Heyman got pinned with the blame for it with the theory being that "he is caught in the past and doesn't understand the new vision of ECW". You know, the vision that ends PPVs a half hour early and makes the fans boo what WWE creative books for them.

The problems started yesterday at the ECW PPV when everyone realized that the show really stunk. Heyman was said to be unhappy with the way that the show was booked (big shock right) and sources backstage told me that he voiced that concern both before the show and after it. People at TV told me today that it was obvious that there were issues between Vince McMahon and Heyman because of the how the show played out on pay TV, with everyone knowing it was a disaster. Problems carried over from last night and led to the incidents that happened today.

A number of sources told me that there was a meeting today around two o'clock with Heyman, Vince McMahon and Stephanie McMahon-Levesque at the building. Heyman came out the meeting and seemed like his normal self, with no one I talked to having any idea that something bad had happened. Shortly thereafter, Heyman gathered his things and left the building to go home.

The word going around from everyone I talked to is that this is not a storyline in any way and he is legitimately done with the company.

Paul heyman voiced his concerns even before the PPV aired and he gets blamed with the "he is caught in the past theory".Gimme a break already............

Mr.Nice Guy

J.R. wrote the following on his blog about the situation...

Unfortunate to see Paul Heyman, the former ECW guru, leave the WWE. Paul is a bright guy with many interests and will no doubt “land on his feet”. I have known and worked with Paul for MANY years, even when I was “thinner” and “Happy Heyman” had hair. We had our battles but Heyman is a sharpie cookie and won’t need a telethon or fund raiser any time soon. I wish him the best in whatever he chooses to do.