Perth England Team.

mike65

Squad

Bell
Pietersen
Read
Joyce
Cook
Strauss
Jones

Flintoff
Collingwood

Anderson
Giles
Panesar
Harmison
Plunket
Hoggard
Mohmoud

Averages

Batting

P D Collingwood----109.66
K P Pietersen

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67.0
I R Bell

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34.0
A F Giles

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24.66
A N Cook

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22.5
A Flintoff

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18.66
A J Strauss

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17.75
G O Jones

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15.75

Bowling

M J Hoggard

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27.9
A Flintoff

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33.71
A F Giles

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87.33
J M Anderson

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151.5
S J Harmison

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288.0

Horrific after the top two in both disciplines.

Perth is another batting friendly wicket with little action for seam bowling which means Spin is the weapon of choice therefore Monty must be given a chance at Giles expense. I'd drop Strauss down the order and add Joyce (yes really) to partner Collingwood neither is likely to cause fires to break out but both can rack up big scores through steady unfussy play so Cook will have to pay. Jones is not adding much to the runs while Read is useful and proberly deserves a go.

Collingwood Bt
Joyce Bt
Bell Bt
Pietersen Bt
Flintoff Bt/Bo
Strauss Bt
Read Bt/Wk
Panesar Bo
Harmison Bo
Hoggard Bo
Mohmoud Bo

Mad?

Mike.

Chucky the tree

i dont know a huge amount about cricket but i'll throw my 2 cents in.

I would stick with Jones. He hasnt made any mistakes and to change it now would just have the media on his back even more and i'd say alot of the players would be very puzzled by Fletcher dropping a player who hasnt done anything badly. I still think chris Read should of been picked from the start, but i wouldnt put him in now. Maybe on the last test when its all over just go give him a go, but not now.

If its a batting friendly wicket then there is no way in hell i would have Mohmoud in there, hes far to erratic and would get hammered all over the park.

I'd probaly drop anderson and play Giles and Monty if Perth is more spin friendly then seam. Panisar definitly has to be included though, it will be a shocking decision if he isnt. It seems Fletcher is going to keep giles though. Delighted i am not english, i'd be tearing my hair out.

Dont know alot about Joyce so cant really say if he should be in there.

Royale with Cheese

I wouldn't be suprised if it's the same team again. Fletcher is incredibly loyal (stubborn). Unless pressured heavily by others Monty won't be included. The general consensus was he wouldn't bowl a ball this series before what happened yesterday, and it was the batting that lost England the test. As rubbish as Giles was it wouldn't suprised me.

Chucky the tree

It was englands in-ability to bowl the aussies out when they batted first that cost them winning the match. Even when Aussies were batting to win i think they would of seriously struggled if monty had been playing.

Royale with Cheese

Chucky the tree wrote:

It was englands in-ability to bowl the aussies out when they batted first that cost them winning the match. Even when Aussies were batting to win i think they would of seriously struggled if monty had been playing.

Not winning the match was one thing, but losing it was something completely different and can't be blamed on anything else but the 2nd innings batting performance.

ziggy

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county

Royale with Cheese wrote:

I wouldn't be suprised if it's the same team again. Fletcher is incredibly loyal (stubborn). Unless pressured heavily by others Monty won't be included. The general consensus was he wouldn't bowl a ball this series before what happened yesterday, and it was the batting that lost England the test. As rubbish as Giles was it wouldn't suprised me.

if only giles would have taken that catch it could have been so different

DMC

Another one of those, "what's it like to drop the ashes" moments. A certain SK Warne did the same on the final morning of The Oval test in 2005.... KP Pietersen was the batsman...

My team would be...

Strauss
Joyce
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff
Read
Hoggard
Panesar
Broad
Plunkett or Mahmood

A toss up for the last spot, imo, as neither inspire any confidence, haven't played themselves much this series. I can see Harmison playing, but if not, Id like to see Broad in, but I dunno what he has done so far in the Academy in Perth.

As for the Aussies, same again, but maybe if Watson is fit, Martyn gets dropped?? A 5th bowler would be handy for them, and Martyn would have to go, but not if Watson isnt fit.

mike65

Collingwood Bt
Joyce Bt
Bell Bt
Pietersen Bt
Flintoff Bt/Bo
Strauss Bt
Read Bt/Wk
Panesar Bo
Harmison Bo
Hoggard Bo
Mohmoud Bo

Actual

Strauss
Cook
Bell
Collingwood
Flintoff
Pietersen
Jones
Panesar
Hoggard
Harmison
Mahmood

Not so far out!

Mike.

county

pat on the back for mike please;)

mike65

And look how well they did! :mad:

Mike.

county

tipical england,bowl the aussie`s out for a nothing total and then get bowled out for less than a nothing total:mad:

DMC

And then bowl nothing for a huge total