Question for the ladies, have you ever ****blocked a friend?

challengemaster

Laslo wrote:

Yeah. Both men and women. That's my point.

yes ofc, but i was reffering to women being taken advantage of in this situation because it was relevent to the OP.. which initally was about some guy not getting laid because the girls friend stayed around. i mean sure it could defo happen to men too. i was just talking with relevance to the thread.

Maybe for kids, yeah.

sorry to tell ya, but none of the females that have posted here about that "tactic" are in any way kids.

I'm not surprised in the least. Your opinion seems to be based on limited experience so it makes perfect sense.

actually its based on no experience, just plain common sense, and what respect i have for the other gender.

i may be young but that doesnt stop me from thinking/acting mature.

Nevyn

Laslo wrote:

I'm not surprised in the least. Your opinion seems to be based on limited experience so it makes perfect sense.

Actually he is infact part of the younger generation and see and understand the need to respect people as people irreguardless of thier gender.

Who understand personal space and boundaries and the need for consent.

Terry

supply and demand, people.
if it wasn't for the women who do fall for these sleazy guys, then the sleazy guys wouldn't be out there.
one does not exist without the other.

Laslo

Thaedydal wrote:

Actually he is infact part of the younger generation and see and understand the need to respect people as people irreguardless of thier gender.

Who understand personal space and boundaries and the need for consent.

Which is great. But there are many people, both young and old, who get confused between the lack of consent and the lack of self-control. I suppose it's getting the balance right and being responsible for our own actions.

Dyr

Ickle Magoo wrote:

Are you seriously refuting such men exist? Refuting that women have nothing to fear from any man (not all men - I said any man), that there is no such thing as predatory men & so woman are going around in groups or making pacts not to leave each other alone for absolutely no reason & my explanation why they do is just rhetorical fallacy? Honestly? :eek:

Make your mind up on your definition then, are you taking about protecting drunken women from rapists or from blokes who go are also out on the town hoping for a ride? Do you really think anyone has deeply cared for some randomer they just met and liked them for their personality at 2 am in a nightclub?

You are responsible for your own behaviour, if you need a posse of equally drunk girlfriends to decide for you on whether or not you're gonna shag some bloke dont try blame that on the PREDATOR*scary music* , it's because you're a divot.

Ickle Magoo

Bambi wrote:

Make your mind up on your definition then, are you taking about protecting drunken women from rapists or from blokes who go are also out on the town hoping for a ride? Do you really think anyone has deeply cared for some randomer they just met and liked them for their personality at 2 am in a nightclub?

Both & either I guess...having friends there that can tell you not to be silly when you are feeling horny & drunk is a good thing imo. Again, there is a difference between fancying a girl & chatting her up & hoping for some action & a man who plies a girl with drink & tells a load of crap (I want to see you again, yada, yada, yada) in the hope of using her for his sexual gratification - if you can't see the difference between them or you think I'm amking the latter up then I dont know what else I can say tbh - perhaps the reason the girls know what kind of man I mean speaks volumes for their existance. If believing him makes her an idiot because he's got every right to say whatever he wants in order to try & get a shag, then that is exactly why a lot of women run a mile from men in clubs or ask that their friends don't leave them. Which is what the OP asked, which is what I've been trying to say...

Bambi wrote:

You are responsible for your own behaviour, if you need a posse of equally drunk girlfriends to decide for you on whether or not you're gonna shag some bloke dont try blame that on the PREDATOR*scary music* , it's because you're a divot.

Of course ultimately we are all responsible for our own behaviour - is making a pact with friends when sober that no-one is to be left on their own when drunk not being responsible?

Lurk

vorbis wrote:

After having a sure thing with a girl messed up by her friend, I'm a little upset :mad: Back at the house, her friend wouldn't leave us alone till about 4 in the morning by which time I was too wrecked to do anything. What made it worse was she was ignoring her boyfriend who lived up the street to block my attempts to get some action :eek:

Did you get her phone number? If so, why not give her a buzz and ask her for a date? If you didn't get her number, were you just after "some action?" If that's the case, she probably sussed you and asked her friend to stay with her.

Lump

Admit it, you're a wierd stalker and infact the girl in question had requested that her friend hang around until you got bored and left or fell asleep. Tell the truth now....

vorbis

an ever so slight leap there Lump

I might not have made it clear in the original post, but I have met this girl once before (at halloween). She doesn't live near me so it was a case of meeting up with her when she's around. Still though where did all this "men are only out for one thing" stuff come from. I was under the impression that women enjoyed sex as well

Also if a guy ends up sleeping with a girl he didn't want to, he usually chalks it down to the drink. Why is it so different for women? I personally don't care about a girl's past (as long as it doesn't affect the present). Some posters here though (especially some female ones) seem to be implying that a girl is a slut if she acts on her horniness at 2 in the morning and goes home with some guy.

.:Who:.

It is rather common, my brother was telling me the other day of one such incident that happened to him at the weekend, The not to be mean but "fat friend" wouldn't leave for him and her mate to get it on, I think personally that it is outta jealously, man I would never ruin my mates chances of gettin some!
And Karma will catch up on you for that ****!
Hence the "fat Bastard" syndrome!

gucci

theres almost ALWAYS a fat annoying friend, usually drunk and teary eyed, and usually has the sole mission to bring the girl home instead of the boy shes talking to

stovelid

You probably had a sure fire threesome with the blocker and her fella and you were too drunk to cop on.

AngryBadger

Wertz wrote:

I'd seriously have to choke a bitch...

hey,it's what Wayne brady would do

Lurk

OP, you just seem a little bitter that you didn't get your hole. In any case, what makes you think that a girl who only met you twice would want to sleep with you? You must be fabulous.

vorbis

Lurk wrote:

OP, you just seem a little bitter that you didn't get your hole. In any case, what makes you think that a girl who only met you twice would want to sleep with you? You must be fabulous.

eh, of course I would be a little bit bitter! Its why I started this post!! Heres a tip for you Lurk. When you ahem do stuff with a girl the first time you meet her and conversation indicates that things will go well the next time you see her, THEN theres a good chance to assume that she wants to sleep with you :eek:

Lump

Or not in your case.....

challengemaster

Lump wrote:

Or not in your case.....

to be honest, from what you're saying. if you meet someone, talk a little bit and get on, see them the again then they want to sleep with ya? nice logic..

eg.

day one:

guy - "Hi"
girl - "hey"
...chat...
guy - "so you wanna get a coffee tomorrow or something"
girl - "sure"
guy - "k cya tomorrow" (thinking : omg yes she wants to sleep with me!)


yep.. makes a LOT of sense now..

brianthebard

vorbis wrote:

Also if a guy ends up sleeping with a girl he didn't want to, he usually chalks it down to the drink. Why is it so different for women? I personally don't care about a girl's past (as long as it doesn't affect the present). Some posters here though (especially some female ones) seem to be implying that a girl is a slut if she acts on her horniness at 2 in the morning and goes home with some guy.

First off, commiserations. no one likes missing out on sex. Secondly, regards the quote above, girls are considered sluts if they sleep around because that's what they are taught. Its (almost) socially acceptable for guys to watch porn, masturbate, sleep around and carry condoms, but these same things in a girl are not seen as desireable qualities. Society (read mammy's) want their girls as virtuous as possible for as long as possible, and thats pounded into them from a young age. (note I'm not saying girls don't watch porn, masturbate, etc, but they do it less than guys and they start older.

challengemaster wrote:

eg.

day one:

guy - "Hi"
girl - "hey"
...chat...
guy - "so you wanna get a coffee tomorrow or something"
girl - "sure"
guy - "k cya tomorrow" (thinking : omg yes she wants to sleep with me!)
yep.. makes a LOT of sense now..

Ahem, I know you are young so perhaps you need this explained to you. When the vorbis said "stuff happened between him and the girl" further up the page, I really don't think he meant coffee. In fairness once you pass twenty people will pretty much be able to know the difference between coffee=sex and fooling around and the invitation to meet again=high possibility of sex. Just so you know.

Ickle Magoo

It's kind of contradictory to suggest a woman who wants to have a one night stand - drunk or sober, really, really wants to have sex & is actually with a guy she wants to have sex with, is incapable of taking her friend to one side & saying "Hey, I want him - can you leave us in peace for the evening/2mins?"...it just doesn't make sense.

I don't think its so much to do with a friend sitting in on the action as a deliberate ploy to ruin both her friend & your night, as some of you may like to delude yourselves with. Surely any girl is well capable of saying "leave us alone" or taking a guy into her room to get some privacy? The fact a girl does neither would suggest to me she didn't want to have sex, she did want the friend there & the fact her pal has been called fat, jealous & in the title of the thread a ****blocker would perhaps indicate why.

challengemaster

brianthebard wrote:

Ahem, I know you are young so perhaps you need this explained to you. When the vorbis said "stuff happened between him and the girl" further up the page, I really don't think he meant coffee. In fairness once you pass twenty people will pretty much be able to know the difference between coffee=sex and fooling around and the invitation to meet again=high possibility of sex. Just so you know.

oops.. i must have misread his post.. i didnt spot the "stuff" bit.. my bad

Marksie

Laslo wrote:

Don't you mean "We try and stop each other from acting like the drunken, irresponsible sluts that we really are deep down inside"?

That is a sweeping generalisation and actually leads me to believe that you don't deep down have respect for women at all. But then again i have issues with posts that assert that women are sluts (and that because they are enjoying or flirting in nightclubs that they are automatically spreading everything). It says more about what thought processes are going on in the posters head.

I would agree with virtually all ickle magoo says. If the guy is targeting females who are very drunk, and he isn't then he IS a sleazeball and its fully understandable why women would look after each other. The guy is known as a wolf: in that he looks at the herd and isolates the most vulnerable.

If they are both very drunk.. then mistakes happen (though if that drunk would the guy perform anyways), but in that case i personally would have preferred if MY friends had been looking out.

I am not 15 and my experience isnt that limited, but I would say that challengemaster shows more intirnsic understanding that many men twice his age.
Those who said that the OP prospective sex partner should have said somethig are most probably correct in their assumption.

shane86

vorbis wrote:

After having a sure thing with a girl messed up by her friend, I'm a little upset :mad: Back at the house, her friend wouldn't leave us alone till about 4 in the morning by which time I was too wrecked to do anything. What made it worse was she was ignoring her boyfriend who lived up the street to block my attempts to get some action :eek:

So leaving aside cases where your friend may be very drunk, have you ever prevented a friend (whos single) from having sex with a guy? A guy would be crucified if he acted in the same manner. In my case, she didn't want her friend to act like a slut??

I dunno Vorbis, if shes criminally fat with big glasses if you pull a male friend away your doing a favour. Ive pulled mine away, Ive been pulled away, and we are all the better for it.

Anywho, I find that if Im ever trying to do my thaaaaaaaannnngggggg that the arse attempting to seperate us is usually quite round and flesh filled. Some London rapper, cant recall his name, did a song about this issue called Butterz Mate (Butterz apparently London slang for good looking girl), basically the song and hilarious video about a guy trying to get with some cute thing at the bar while her moustachioed heavy set mate keeps butting in.

Recall one time met some gorgeous thing on the floor, anwyay we got seperated but at the end of the night Im fallin about rubbered when I see her in the corner with her mate. Seeking to initiate Part 2 I saunter over with a walk probably like Chief Wiggums charm walk when he is caught drinking in Moes during prohibition. Her mate was wrecking my head with the old fat arse pincer movement to seperate, Id had a few, so I basically shouted "**** off you fat bitch!" and then proceeded to talk of how she was only jealous nobody wanted a piece of her.

I couldnt eat a burger without pain for 2 days following the almighty clatter in the jaw she gave me :eek:

brianthebard

shane86 wrote:

I dunno Vorbis, if shes criminally fat with big glasses if you pull a male friend away your doing a favour. Ive pulled mine away, Ive been pulled away, and we are all the better for it.

Anywho, I find that if Im ever trying to do my thaaaaaaaannnngggggg that the arse attempting to seperate us is usually quite round and flesh filled. Some London rapper, cant recall his name, did a song about this issue called Butterz Mate (Butterz apparently London slang for good looking girl), basically the song and hilarious video about a guy trying to get with some cute thing at the bar while her moustachioed heavy set mate keeps butting in.

Recall one time met some gorgeous thing on the floor, anwyay we got seperated but at the end of the night Im fallin about rubbered when I see her in the corner with her mate. Seeking to initiate Part 2 I saunter over with a walk probably like Chief Wiggums charm walk when he is caught drinking in Moes during prohibition. Her mate was wrecking my head with the old fat arse pincer movement to seperate, Id had a few, so I basically shouted "**** off you fat bitch!" and then proceeded to talk of how she was only jealous nobody wanted a piece of her.

I couldnt eat a burger without pain for 2 days following the almighty clatter in the jaw she gave me :eek:

I love you for doing that (in a totally non gay way of course.)

Laslo

marksuttonie wrote:

That is a sweeping generalisation and actually leads me to believe that you don't deep down have respect for women at all.

Well you believe what you want to believe from how very little you know. I have plenty of respect for real women. I have NO respect for misandrists who see all men as potential rapists and are perfectly happy to either casually or flamboyantly insinuate such.

marksuttonie wrote:

But then again i have issues with posts that assert that women are sluts

Did I make a blanket assertion that all women are sluts? No I did not. I simply accused the women who are asserting that this innocent lad is a dangerous sex pest predator of, in fact, making excuses for being incapable of keeping their knickers on.

vorbis

shane86 wrote:

Recall one time met some gorgeous thing on the floor, anwyay we got seperated but at the end of the night Im fallin about rubbered when I see her in the corner with her mate. Seeking to initiate Part 2 I saunter over with a walk probably like Chief Wiggums charm walk when he is caught drinking in Moes during prohibition. Her mate was wrecking my head with the old fat arse pincer movement to seperate, Id had a few, so I basically shouted "**** off you fat bitch!" and then proceeded to talk of how she was only jealous nobody wanted a piece of her.

I couldnt eat a burger without pain for 2 days following the almighty clatter in the jaw she gave me :eek:

Classic

as for this part

I dunno Vorbis, if shes criminally fat with big glasses if you pull a male friend away your doing a favour. Ive pulled mine away, Ive been pulled away, and we are all the better for it.

My mates tend not to be so supportive. We let the guy score with the girl and tease him for weeks afterwards

JustCoz

Either she told her friend to stay with her and the friend was following orders, or else the friend fancied you!

JustCoz

Shane86 wrote:

I dunno Vorbis, if shes criminally fat with big glasses if you pull a male friend away your doing a favour. Ive pulled mine away, Ive been pulled away, and we are all the better for it.

ROFL!!

Black Swan

JustCoz wrote:

Either she told her friend to stay with her and the friend was following orders, or else the friend fancied you!

The OP admitted that the blocker was more attractive (and not fat)? Also that the blocker had a b/f? So me thinks that she was not attracted to the OP, but rather asked to block by her friend?

challengemaster

marksuttonie wrote:

I am not 15 and my experience isnt that limited, but I would say that challengemaster shows more intirnsic understanding that many men twice his age.

wow.. ehm.. thanks.. *blush*

Blue_Lagoon wrote:

The OP admitted that the blocker was more attractive (and not fat)? Also that the blocker had a b/f? So me thinks that she was not attracted to the OP, but rather asked to block by her friend?

*BING**BING**BING**BING**BING**BING**BING**BING*

OUR SURVEY SAYS.... YES!

brianthebard

Blue_Lagoon wrote:

The OP admitted that the blocker was more attractive (and not fat)? Also that the blocker had a b/f? So me thinks that she was not attracted to the OP, but rather asked to block by her friend?

Its quite possible that the friend either didn't take the hint or the girl vorbis was after didn't feel she could tell her friend to leave for whatever reason.

Marksie

Laslo wrote:

Well you believe what you want to believe from how very little you know. I have plenty of respect for real women. I have NO respect for misandrists who see all men as potential rapists and are perfectly happy to either casually or flamboyantly insinuate such.

Why thank you for giving me permission .


Real women??? and they would be?.... those who put up and shut up perhaps?

as for how little i know.. well i know that my first impressions are generally correct.

Laslo wrote:

Did I make a blanket assertion that all women are sluts? No I did not.

Umm yup you pretty much did in your first post actually

Laslo wrote:

I simply accused the women who are asserting that this innocent lad is a dangerous sex pest predator of, in fact, making excuses for being incapable of keeping their knickers on.

The only direct accusations directed at posters actually came from your posts. Reading Bluelagoon's post to which you so eruditely replied never asserted anything of the sort.
YOU chose to take it as such and launch into a diatribe based on that and consequently accusing women expressing views as misandrist.

I suppose i would have to reply that i have NO respect for misogynists

Red Hand

Back in the day, when I was a young-shpalpeen, I was giv'n the tashk of marking a 6'3 under-14 out in the auld pitch down by the river. T'was in the dying minutes of the second-half of the county third division final, with the opposition of Knockeennahone bravely setting up one lasht attack againsht my home parish, Tournafoulla.

We were down two men, but we shtill had the great Mossy Mac Tiernan, (the man I was marking) who was charging like a shteaming bull up the right side-line, his cheeks swelling to the sizes of oranges.

I was great friends with Mossy, but I knew that if he managed to get pasht me, we would never recover. As he thundered along, mud kicked up behind him shpattering his geansai, I shtarted to tackle and trail him like the terrier I was in those days.

He dodged, weaved, all the time creeping closer and closer to the goal poshts. Seeing an opening, he went for the shot and without thinking I dived in front of him...

Hold on a minute, I just read the rest of the thread. I was thinking of a different ****blocking.:)

OP, I think you may not have been wise in using such a thread name as a thread title. It may have been a bit crude to some (or in my case, misleading):)

Sure, both you and the girl you were seeing may have both wanted to be together, but the girl you were interested in wasn't interested enough to ask her friend to leave. So maybe she wasn't in such good shape after all when it came to drink.

Yes, she could have said "yes" to you, but equally she could have said "no, I'd like to be alone now with Vorbis" to her friend (in more diplomatic terms:) )

Laslo

marksuttonie wrote:

Real women??? and they would be?.... those who put up and shut up perhaps?

No, far from it. Is that what you would classify as a real woman?

marksuttonie wrote:

as for how little i know.. well i know that my first impressions are generally correct.

Really? You must be an incredibly intelligent individual. Good for you.

Marksie

Laslo wrote:

No, far from it. Is that what you would classify as a real woman?

Tut, tut, touchy. Answering a question with a question. Stop sidestepping and answer it.

Laslo wrote:

You must be an incredibly intelligent individual. Good for you.

Yes, thanks.

and you must be incredibly insecure or just plain sulky

Laslo

marksuttonie wrote:

Tut, tut, touchy. Answering a question with a question. Stop sidestepping and answer it.

Well if you're asking me, the answer is no. I never asserted that women should put up and shut up. You said it, not me remember.

marksuttonie wrote:

and you must be incredibly insecure or just plain sulky

Well as you said, you're always right. So who am I to argue? Now if you'll excuse me I'll go off and sulk while you wave your sword of righteousness around

Shellie13

not unless friend was drunk or seein sum1 else!
jealous?!

Marksie

Laslo wrote:

Well if you're asking me, the answer is no. I never asserted that women should put up and shut up. You said it, not me remember.

It was a question if you care to do soomething daring and read a post correctly.

Laslo wrote:

Well as you said, you're always right. So who am I to argue? Now if you'll excuse me I'll go off and sulk while you wave your sword of righteousness around

Aye, i will keep an eye out for the arrows of indignation while i am at it.:p

Oh and to answer your question, i would classify a "real woman" the same way as i would classify a "real man". A unique, individual and human being

vorbis

OP, I think you may not have been wise in using such a thread name as a thread title. It may have been a bit crude to some (or in my case, misleading)

I didn't make up the phrase! It does seem to be a more american phrase though.

Its quite possible that the friend either didn't take the hint or the girl vorbis was after didn't feel she could tell her friend to leave for whatever reason.

That would be my explanation for her not telling the friend to move along. She even said her friend was a bit "matronly" at one point when I asked how come she was staying around.

A lot of women (and some men) are very passive and will do what a dominant friend wants. The downside is if you confront the friend, the girl wll side with her friend (as you'd expect) leaving you ****ed (or not in this case!)

Black Swan

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote:

Hold on a minute, I just read the rest of the thread. I was thinking of a different ****blocking.:)

Well, this thread could use an athlete who knows how to block. At least he understands the concept. If he blocks some bloke that's trying to make a move on his teammate with the ball, and does a grand job blocking, the fans will cheer him on. And anyone who bad mouths the blocker will obviously be rooting for the opposing team. After all, this is all in the spirit of the game, be it on the field, pub, or these boards.

Red Hand

Blue_Lagoon wrote:

Well, this thread could use an athlete who knows how to block. At least he understands the concept. If he blocks some bloke that's trying to make a move on his teammate with the ball, and does a grand job blocking, the fans will cheer him on.

Not in Gaelic! You cannot block a man who is going to tackle your teammate. Now, if it were the Trojans (as AM football is quite different), and Booty was making a move on tackling my teammate...by God, he would go down!

But I agree with you Blue.;)

Black Swan

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote:

Not in Gaelic! You cannot block a man who is going to tackle your teammate. Now, if it were the Trojans (as AM football is quite different), and Booty was making a move on tackling my teammate...by God, he would go down!

But I agree with you Blue.;)

Well I don't know much about either sport, be it Gaelic or Am Football, and just playing with metaphors in this thread. But I am very athletic and do know how to block in kickboxing and taekwondo (kicking and punching even better), and if my friend asked me to block for her during a night out on the town, I would do so (one way or another) until she asked me to stop. And if she asked me to stop, I would leave them to their fun, and go get with my b/f for fun of our own. This girl did not ask her friend to stop, so obviously she was not interested in bedroom recreation with the OP. So this whole thread started as a rant, and everyone has been playing with it, just as I have been, cause we all must be bored and seeking entertainment on AH.

Red Hand

Blue_Lagoon wrote:

...and if my friend asked me to block for her during a night out on the town, I would do so (one way or another) until she asked me to stop. And if she asked me to stop, I would leave them to their fun, and go get with my b/f for fun of our own. This girl did not ask her friend to stop, so obviously she was not interested in bedroom recreation with the OP.

[Blue, I note that you specifically use "girl" in the above phrase. Would you block girls from a guy friend if he asked you?

(Cause there is this girl that is a bit pushy with me...)]

On topic, I agree. You're not a friend with some if you fail to look out one another.

Black Swan

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote:

[Blue, I note that you specifically use "girl" in the above phrase. Would you block girls from a guy friend if he asked you?

If "he" belonged to me, "he" would not have to ask. I'd not only block them, I'd kick them into the next time zone if they were too persistent!;)

Red Hand

Blue_Lagoon wrote:

If "he" belonged to me, "he" would not have to ask. I'd not only block them, I'd kick them into the next time zone if they were too persistent!;)

Lucky guy! (I think!)

Kimbot

Me thinks a few people here need to chill!!

Lurk

general gist: Boo hoo hoo...I didn't get my hole...she really wanted me but her crappy friend got in the way...blah blah....something else about women calling men rapists...boo hoo...women are crap....etc etc..I'm going to start a thread on boards....

CuLT

Lots of chivalrous children posting ITT.

And" irregardless" isn't a GOD DAMN WORD THAED. America can go stuff itself.

Hydroquinone

vorbis wrote:

After having a sure thing with a girl messed up by her friend, I'm a little upset :mad: Back at the house, her friend wouldn't leave us alone till about 4 in the morning by which time I was too wrecked to do anything. What made it worse was she was ignoring her boyfriend who lived up the street to block my attempts to get some action :eek:

So leaving aside cases where your friend may be very drunk, have you ever prevented a friend (whos single) from having sex with a guy? A guy would be crucified if he acted in the same manner. In my case, she didn't want her friend to act like a slut??

I reckon you've answered your own question there. By your own admission, sleeping with you is what makes a woman a slut. So maybe she didn't fancy getting it on with you, the slutmeister.:D

Speaking as a female type person, back in the day when I was young and daft and all my mates were too, if my mate said to me "Don't leave me alone with this cock" then I wouldn't. I'd be a cockblocker in that case. Nice word ny the way. Seems to sum up exactly what she did.
If she said no such thing and my boyfriend lived up the road, I'd be off up to his gaff.

Nevyn

CuLT wrote:

And" irregardless" isn't a GOD DAMN WORD THAED.

Wanna bet ?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless

so what if it is nonstandard I am too.

/me hits Cult over the head with the book of Theadspeak also known as Thaed's gospel.

There could a range of reasons that the young lady did not want to forincate that evening from not having shaved her legs, having the painters in or having to finish a course of anti bios comprimising her contraception or waiting for the antibios to clear up the course of the clap she has.

What ever her reason she took the precaution of asking her friend to make sure she was no let in a comprimising situation esp later on in the evening when her judgement was impared.

Cleary she was instersted but just not that night.

When a young man finds himself in such a situation he should not press the matter but look to get her phone number to arrange a better time to conculde the illasion.

Aoife-FM104

For once I agree with Laslo

There's a lot of people on this forum living in fantasy land.

Girls who get drunk and have sex ARE CHOOSING TO HAVE SEX. It has nothing to do with the man. He is not taking advantage or being a rapist or whatever the man-haters are saying. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY PEOPLE.

Is a man supposed to assume the girl he just met would never have sex with a stranger? Why should he assume that? Plenty PLENTY of girls want to have sex with strangers, and use alcohol to loosen themselves up (or as an excuse "I was drunk, I would never normally do that!")

I have lots of girl friends who pull that **** and it really annoys me.

Men (drunk or sober) who have sex with drunk girls are not taking advantage UNLESS he already knows the girl very well and knows she would absolutely not have sex if she was sober. But in a one night stand situation the man does not know that.

Assuming all girls are prudes (which the majority of people on this forum do) annoys me because most girls are not prudes. We can choose to have sex. It is not evil men taking advantage of us.