Carling Cup Q/F's

Mossin

Tuesday 19th December

Liverpool v Arsenal - Home
Charlton v Wycombe - Away

Wednesday 20th December

Newcastle v Chelsea - Away
Tottenham v Southend - Home

It is hard to pick winners in these ties really.
Liverpool have improved a lot in recent weeks as have Arsenal, but the Gunners will probably field a weakened team tonight, and if so I fancy Liverpool to win.

The Charlton game could be the best of them all.. We could see loads of goals in this one..

Newcastle will be looking for revenge for the defeat to Chelsea a few games ago in the league..But Chelsae have found their goalscoring boots again so I gotta go for them.

Spurs have got their season going finally. Defoe and Berbatov scoring a lot.
Southend are propping up the Championship table but proved that they are a good cup side by knocking out Man Utd in the last round. We could see a shock here..

kinaldo

I'm really psyched up for the Newcastle QF cos it's Chelsea and also our best chance of a trophy this season + we have a good home record against them with 4 wins in the last 4 seasons!

2005/06 won 1-0 Bramble
2004/05 Drew 1-1 Geremi OG
2004/05 Won 1-0 Kluivert (FAC)
2004/05 Lost 0-2 aet (LC)
2003/04 Won 2-1 Ameobi, Shearer
2002/03 Won 2-1 Hasselbaink OG, Bernard

I really fancy us to win, maybe even on penos to avenge 95/96! If we get stuffed then I probably won't show my face around here for a while.

Kojak

Tuesday 19th December

Liverpool v Arsenal - Home
Charlton v Wycombe - Draw

Wednesday 20th December

Newcastle v Chelsea - Away
Tottenham v Southend - Home

jank

Arsenal will field a strong enough side with plenty of first teamers.

Some players will be given a rest though.
Id fancy a draw there though.

kinaldo

jank wrote:

Id fancy a draw there though.

there's no replays I thought

?

dr.bollocko

Looks like betting odds are against arsenal tonight. 4 to 1???? In a two horse race????? I mean whoever is more in the know than we are is backing L'pool heavily, and I would have to say the same.

Mossin

Originally posted by Kinaldo

there's no replays I thought

Indeed no replays in the Carling Cup.. Extra-Time and penalties decide all rounds except the semis which are two-legged..

cruiserweight

jank wrote:

Arsenal will field a strong enough side with plenty of first teamers.

Some players will be given a rest though.
Id fancy a draw there though.

The squads for the games are

Liverpool (from): Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Agger, Riise, Aurelio, Luis Garcia, Pennant, Gerrard, Alonso, Gonzalez, Crouch, Fowler, Bellamy, Kuyt, Dudek, Paletta, Peltier.

Arsenal (from): Almunia, Poom, Hoyte, Lauren, Senderos, Djourou, Flamini, Walcott, Song, Denilson, Randall, Traore, Aliadiere, Connolly, Garry, Perez.

So looks like Arsenal will be playing a lot of youngsters, but they will probably have a pretty strong defence!

Fratton Fred

COME ON YOU CHAIRBOYS.

Good luck to my one time local team. Great little club with a really good family set up. Could this be their second major semi final in five years. I certainly hope so.

MrJoeSoap

Due to heavy fog at Anfield, a pitch inspection has been called for 6.15pm ahead of tonight's Carling Cup quarter final against Arsenal.

A club spokemsan said: "At present the game is still on but a pitch inspection will take place at 6.15pm."

mike65

Looks like the match is off!

Mike.

_blank_

:eek:

Surely in this day and age of Walk-men and Game-boys there is some kind of anti-fog device.

MrJoeSoap

I remember seeing highlights of a game in Monaghan played in the most unbelievably ridiculous fog you will ever see in your life, you could literally only barely see the near touchline.

Thats the First Division for you, hardcore to the last. No yellow balls there.

Pepe LeFrits

cruiserweight wrote:

The squads for the games are

Liverpool (from): Reina, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Agger, Riise, Aurelio, Luis Garcia, Pennant, Gerrard, Alonso, Gonzalez, Crouch, Fowler, Bellamy, Kuyt, Dudek, Paletta, Peltier.

Arsenal (from): Almunia, Poom, Hoyte, Lauren, Senderos, Djourou, Flamini, Walcott, Song, Denilson, Randall, Traore, Aliadiere, Connolly, Garry, Perez.

So looks like Arsenal will be playing a lot of youngsters, but they will probably have a pretty strong defence!

That isn't Arsenal's squad. I don't know where BBC pulled that from, probably out of their arse. Connolly is on loan at Bournemouth!

The Arsenal squad is:

Kolo Toure - Age 25 - Ivory Coast
Philippe Senderos - Age 21 - Switzerland
Tomas Rosicky - Age 26 - Czech Republic
Julio Baptista - Age 25 - Brazil
Lauren - Age 29 - Cameroon
Denilson - Age 18 - Brazil
Alexandre Song - Age 19 - Cameroon
Mart Poom - Age 34 - Estonia
Manuel Almunia - Age 29 - Spain
Jeremie Aliadiere - Age 23 - France
Justin Hoyte - Age 22 - England
Theo Walcott - Age 17 - England
Armand Traore - Age 17 - France
Joseph O’Cearuill - Age 19 - Republic of Ireland
Fran Merida - Age 16 - Spain
Mark Randall - Age 17 - England

therecklessone

seansouth wrote:

:eek:

Surely in this day and age of Walk-men and Game-boys there is some kind of anti-fog device.

In November 1945 Arsenal played one of the most extraordinary and controversial matches in their history, against a Dynamo Moscow side touring the country. With many players still serving abroad, Arsenal were severely depleted and used six guest players, including Stanley Matthews and Stan Mortensen, which led Dynamo to declare they were playing an England XI (though three of the side were actually Welsh). The match kicked off in thick fog and the slick and technically proficient Dynamo won 4-3, after Arsenal had led 3-1 at half-time. Though the score is generally agreed upon, after that accounts of the match diverge; English reports alleged Dynamo fielded twelve players at one point, and trying to pressurise the referee into abandoning the match when they had been behind; in turn, the Soviets accused Arsenal of persistent foul play and even alleged George Allison had bet money on the result (a claim that was later retracted).[8] With the fog obscuring much of the action (even the identity of the goalscorers is disputed), not to mention the language barriers and mutual suspicion (the match took place with the Cold War brewing in the background), it is unlikely that any accurate account of what really went on will ever emerge.

Now that would be some QF...

Pepe LeFrits

Fog is clearing, looks like it will go ahead. New inspection scheduled for 6.45.

mike65

Listening to fivelive and they say if it stays as is, the match will go ahead.

Quick joke about Wenger not seeing anything during tonights game!

Mike.

Pepe LeFrits

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=157252.0;attach=100723;image

It'll look like a Serie A game!

Odds on Wenger 'not seeing it' tonight have been slashed by paddypower...

Guy:Incognito

I dont know what the problem is. Sky just showed a view from a camera behind the goal and you could see the far goalposts ffs. Thats plenty to be playable.



Footballers these days.:rolleyes: Dont know they're born.

~Rebel~

Liverpool Arsenal game is off.

MrJoeSoap

Wonder if that means they'll show the other game now, could be a blessing in disguise.

Pepe LeFrits

ffs, it's cleared up loads and all.

event

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

ffs, it's cleared up loads and all.

at anfield?

Pepe LeFrits

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7d7266b991adbee64569f4ce79ada1c8&action=dlattach;topic=157252.0;attach=100747;image

kinaldo

pffft

Guy:Incognito

Whats big giant load of monkey crap. This is ridiculous, that ref needs a kicking.

When does it get played? Unless it's this week which I doubt, this means it gets crammed into a busy week in the new year,yay.:rolleyes:

event

in fairness, id believe a ref more so than a picture from sky sports.

maybe its due to get worse, maybe that pic is a from earlier

kinaldo

Game set for Jan 8th I believe. Apparently Wenger and Benitez really wanted it to go ahead tonight and Sky won't allow it to be played tomorrow because they have the tv rights which would clash with Newcastle v Chelsea - keep an eye out for that as the fog is set to get worse over the next 24hrs...

Pepe LeFrits

Aren't the CC semi-finals played on the 10th of Jan?

Mossy Monk

**** sake

after i finishing early from work and everything

kinaldo

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

Aren't the CC semi-finals played on the 10th of Jan?

I think so but Jan 8th hasn't been confirmed just speculation on the old interweb...

also they play each other in the FA Cup on Jan 6th!

Guy:Incognito

kinaldo wrote:

Game set for Jan 8th I believe. Apparently Wenger and Benitez really wanted it to go ahead tonight and Sky won't allow it to be played tomorrow because they have the tv rights which would clash with Newcastle v Chelsea - keep an eye out for that as the fog is set to get worse over the next 24hrs...

Hope it's not set for the 8th. The FA cup game V Arsenal is Sat the 6th, then this on Mon 8th, the next round on Wed 10th then away to Watford on saturday 13th. What a crap week.

kinaldo

Stekelly wrote:

Hope it's not set for the 8th. The FA cup game V Arsenal is Sat the 6th, then this on Mon 8th, the next round on Wed 10th then away to Watford on saturday 13th. What a crap week.

Looking at the their busy holiday fixtures I don't see any other alternative unless they postpone the semi final.

Guy:Incognito

kinaldo wrote:

Looking at the their busy holiday fixtures I don't see any other alternative unless they postpone the semi final.

We'll just take a gimme for the watford game.

Wenger on saying that the ref said they wouldnt be able to distiguise players etc from across the pitch. On the live pictures you can read the board son tha far side ffs, what sthe problem?

Reganio 2

Stekelly wrote:

Whats big giant load of monkey crap. This is ridiculous, that ref needs a kicking.

Did anybody else see the interview sky did with the referee the Liverpool players started kicking footballs at them the Ref didnt look happy and i think they broke a light as well Very very funny though .

Guy:Incognito

Can imagine theres a few well pissed off Londoners after travelling up for the last couple of hours.

Reganio 2

Stekelly wrote:

Can imagine theres a few well pissed off Londoners after travelling up for the last couple of hours.

Thats not that bad I know people that went over from here. How pissed would you be then.

Necronomicon

kinaldo wrote:

Sky won't allow it to be played tomorrow because they have the tv rights which would clash with Newcastle v Chelsea - keep an eye out for that as the fog is set to get worse over the next 24hrs...

Afaik Sky had nothing to do with it, it was all organisational factors that couldn't be resolved in 24 hours.

mike65

The game can't be rescheduled quickly for policing/traffic managment etc reasons, Liverpool City by laws require 10 days notice for a match!

Mike.

Bateman

Have to agree with the ref. It was obvious from the Sky pictures that if you were in the last 10 or 15 rows of seating all around the ground, you would have been able to see f-all. Weather can't be controlled, people should quit whining.

Guy:Incognito

Bateman wrote:

Have to agree with the ref. It was obvious from the Sky pictures that if you were in the last 10 or 15 rows of seating all around the ground, you would have been able to see f-all. Weather can't be controlled, people should quit whining.

So the match should be put back 3 weeks and jammed into an already crowded fixture list because the people at the back cant see properly? screw that.

People have spent years having their viewing of half the pitch blocked by pillars and the like, I'm sure they'd have rather seen half a pitch than to have had a wasted journey from London, Ireland etc.

Bateman

So I point out that thousands of people in the back 15 rows around the ground can't see, and part of your argument is concern for a handful of Irish glory hunters, and Arsenal's famously poor away support? :rolleyes:

Does the game have to be crammed into January? Yes. Tough. Whatever team makes the semi final will have that game put back. The CL doesn't restart til February FFS. You'd swear they were playing 2 games per week betweenow and then. They won't be.

Wenger cracks me up the most. He constantly whinges because he has a small squad (even though he farms most of his young players out on loan), and then when a game is called off, he whinges because his players aren't getting time on the pitch. Here's an idea; why don't you play all these players when you DO have the chance?

therecklessone

Bateman wrote:

You'd swear they were playing 2 games per week betweenow and then. They won't be.

Guess what?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/fixtures/default.stm

Bateman

therecklessone wrote:

Guess what?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/fixtures/default.stm

Saturday, 06 January 2007
Liverpool v Arsenal, 17:15

and 7 days later...

Saturday, 13 January 2007
Barclays Premiership

and 7 days later...

Watford v Liverpool, 15:00
Saturday, 20 January 2007

...and 10 days later

Liverpool v Chelsea, 12:45
Tuesday, 30 January 2007
Barclays Premiership
West Ham v Liverpool, 19:45

Guess what? FFS, Watford hardly even counts. :-)

therecklessone

The rearranged game will more than likely be played midweek after the FA Cup 3rd Round tie on the 6th, they will have played two games a week up until that tie is played.

The winners will then face two midweek CC semis to be played in January and potentially an FA Cup 4th Round the weekend of the 27th.

Pretty congested month all told.

Xavi6

The game was postponed so just get on with it. Teams get conjestion every year so this time it's Liverpool's turn.

All this is taking away from the game that did actually go ahead tonight. Superb performance by Wycombe to overcome Charlton away from home Jermaine Easter is a quality striker and has filled the void left by Nathan Tyson superbly. That makes it two Premiership scalps so far in the competition and they're doing well in the league too.

evilhomer

So... Does anyone think Charlton are regretting sacking Dowie so soon?

This Reed bloke seems inept and totally lacking in organisational and motivational skills.

~Rebel~

its something ill never understand, sacking a manager when you have noone better to replace him with. its just a massive waste of money and doesn't help the club at all.

dowie would have done at least as well as reed, more then likely better. they were pretty bad at the start of the season, but their recent performances are some of the worst i've ever seen.

eirebhoy

I'm more suprised how well Paul Lambert is doing after his terrible time at Livingston.

therecklessone

Latest scores:

Barcodes 0-0 Chelsea
Spurs 0-0 Southend

Spurs just hit the crossbar.

therecklessone

Spurs having all the best chances at WHL, Defoe had a good header saved and Murphy put one just past the post.

Oh, the rearranged Pool-Arsenal game has been confirmed for Tuesday January 9th Clicky

Here's hoping they don't draw in the FA Cup tie...:D