Bin Tags....grrrr

King of Kings

Just bought a bin tag for tomorrow's collection,
It's gone up to 8euro a pop.

That has to be illegal / immoral whatever the fu8ck i'm in a rage.
2 years ago it was a fiver,.

I live in the fingal area BTW....I am so mad I might run for election.

It wouldn't have happened under saddam!

Rb

King of Kings wrote:

Just bought a bin tag for tomorrow's collection,
It's gone up to 8euro a pop.

That has to be illegal / immoral whatever the fu8ck i'm in a rage.
2 years ago it was a fiver,.

I live in the fingal area BTW....I am so mad I might run for election.

It wouldn't have happened under saddam!

All this over €3...wow.

Kwekubo

What are these bin tags? Is it like paying charges to get a wheelie bin?

Rb

netwhizkid wrote:

I don't blame the fella today three euro tomorrow thirty euro. See my signature. I have always said that waste is not a commodity and is a public service and should be provided out of our general taxation and not open to competition or the rigours of the free market.

Many countries around the world run their waste this way and it is the proper way. Joe Higgins and Clare Daly were jailed over this. It is another example of how the Fianna Fail/PD's government are ruining the country with Privatisation and running the public services into the ground.

Their is a hidden agenda by the current government to privatise all public services in Ireland including, Gas/Electricity/Water/Waste and to privatise the health system. I wouldn;t give a toss if it was €3 it is the principle of thing, Waste gone up, CIE fares up 2.5%, Eircom line Rental where will it stop.

Use your votes people wisely people :-/

Oh believe me, I fully agree that our taxes should pay for our waste and that Fianna Fail are a shambolic bunch altogether, who will certainly not be getting my vote. I'd sooner give it to the Communist Party of Ireland than I would Fianna Fail, all I'm saying though is that €3 is nothing to get yourself into a rage over. Sure, it can be a motivator to vote against Fianna Fail, but its nothing worth stressing one self over.

Steffano2002

King of Kings wrote:

Just bought a bin tag for tomorrow's collection,
It's gone up to 8euro a pop.

That has to be illegal / immoral whatever the fu8ck i'm in a rage.
2 years ago it was a fiver,.

I live in the fingal area BTW....I am so mad I might run for election.

It wouldn't have happened under saddam!

What? €8 EUR per sticker??? They were €2.50 EUR a pop!!!

m_stan

it's a total scam. the justification will be that its to pay for all the amazing recycling facilities we now have (like the one where you can't even put a glass or plastic bottle in your green bin, and you have to DRIVE (eco-friendly how are ya) to the not-so-local recycling centre).

I hate to admit it, but the socialist party were right - once the scheme was introduced, the council were free to hike the charges as much and as often as they liked. And they did.

scam

InFront

I feel you're pain too dude, but I can't imagine what you must be like under real stress...

Sad Professor

It's been €8 where I am (south dublin) since April I believe.

Mossy Monk

what? only €8 now?

welcome to what other parts are paying

aidan_walsh

FTW!

Steffano2002

Wait wait wait... I'm in Dublin 7. Each bin bad I put out had to have a €2.50 EUR sticker on it. This sticker is now €8 EUR??? :eek:

Our man in Havana

Us country folk are already been paying that for years. My bin €35 a month.

Oriel

rb_ie wrote:

All this over €3...wow.

Nope, all this over an extra €156 over a year, just for one bin.
But who cares? I'm a Nordy... Hehehehe

Sam Vimes

its almost worth forging them at this stage

SoupyNorman

I'm down the midlands, 7euro for rubbish and 4euro for recycling.

Its not the money that gets my goat, its the hassle of having to go back and forward to the shop , tie on the ticket and make sure no one steals the friggin ticket. (happens a fair deal)

Once again, we are so behind our European cousins.

In Austria, (one of the cleanest cities, they have a very simple yet effective method. On the street, in apartment blocks, nearly everwhere they have:
Paper recycling bins,
Tins/Cans
Green bottles
White bottles
Brown bottles
Food
Plastic
And then a bin for anything else.

Makes so much more sense if we had these everywhere, even though it would be expensive to set up (I imagine) but think of the money we'd save!

I just wish our government would use their junket money to go somewhere they can actually learn from!!!

King of Kings

InFront wrote:

I feel you're pain too dude, but I can't imagine what you must be like under real stress...

ha ha. real stress is easy - i do real stress no probs on a daily basis at work.

It's more the helplessness i feel at this ****e.

I don't mind paying my way ,i feel i pay enough tax, but if i must pay refuse charge i will.
How can they jusify 5euro to 8 euro in 2 years?
It started off at 3 euro but then when the green bin came out it was 5. But now 8. I may even vote socialist

seamus

It's been €8 for a while now. I don't see the big problem. More people in the house == More rubbish == More people to contribute to the cost. Less people in the house == less rubbish == infrequent cost.

I'm living in my brother's house, and it's essentially just the two of us. We don't need to put out the black bin more than once every 3 weeks, if even that much. It's plummetted since we got a small bin in the kitchen for recycleable waste (previously we would often be too lazy to take recycleables out the back door to the recycle bin). €8 every 3 weeks is pittance. We wouldn't even get a pint of guinness each for that.

wow sierra

Agree completely Seamus - a bit of sanity at last. Fingal have the cheapest and fairest system in the country - if you make any effort to reduce the amount of waste you create and recycle, your annual bin charge per person should be at most about €80 (about the cost of a night out!!)

m_stan

I have two young children. Since them coming into the world our waste has rocketed - mainly due to nappies. They don't pay rent. So while your argument holds up for rent paying or bin tag buying adults, it doesn't for those of us who have kids.

I agree with the system, and I agree that the Fingal system is fair - you pay for what you throw out. It encourages recycling which I think we should all welcome.

But the massive increase in prices in Fingal is simply not justified, no matter what the costs are in other areas of the country. That's the OP's point.

We should have at the very least, the ability to put plastic and glass bottles in our green bins, and have them collected more than once a month. We are afterall paying for it.

m_stan

wow sierra wrote:

our annual bin charge per person should be at most about €80

so you put your bin out 10 weeks out of 52 ? 1 in 5 ? Are you living in a parallel dimension where everything is smaller but the wheelie bins are massive ?

either your math is way off, or you know something I don't. you certainly don't have two adults and two kids living in your house, as almost the average household does.

spurious

This 8 euro people are speaking of, is it for a wheelie bin?
I just got stickers the other day for bags and I think they were about 2.65 each.

8 for a bin isn't too bad, sure you'd jam at least three of my bags in there.

Nevyn

I would not mind as much if the green bin collection was every second week instead of every four weeks and ever house should have a composter.

WUSBDesign

I seemed to have read it somewhere that Fingal CC is going to distribute brown bins to households...... If anything goes, probably the price for a bin tag will increase again, but that's a guess.

Wishbone Ash

wow sierra wrote:

Fingal have the cheapest and fairest system in the country

Agree totally. Long may it last.

m_stan wrote:

so you put your bin out 10 weeks out of 52 ? 1 in 5 ? Are you living in a parallel dimension where everything is smaller but the wheelie bins are massive ?

I put our bin out about every 8 weeks (2 adults+1 child). €8x7=€56 which is only €33.04 per annum with the tax relief. That's fantastic value for money!

Down the country, people are paying hundreds of Euros per year whether they fill their bin or nor. There is no incentive there!

m_stan

Wishbone Ash wrote:

I put our bin out about every 8 weeks (2 adults+1 child). €8x7=€56 which is only €33.04 per annum with the tax relief. That's fantastic value for money!

Fair play to you. We last around three weeks before we're overflowing and we recycle everything possible. Maybe its the two kids in nappies that does it, or maybe we're just more wasteful than we should be. I'l love to be able to last 8 weeks - not for the money - for the environment.

The 8 Eur is an incentive to not put the bin out, which is good. As is the fair system in Fingal which I agree with.

It's the never-ending, way-over-inflation hikes in the tag price that get me. If I got something in return I wouldn't mind so much (like more frequent green bins or glass and plastic recycling as mentioned before).

On the brown bin - yes that's in pilot phase at the moment. Personally I won't take one. I have a composter which I use in my veggie garden. That takes all my organic waste from the kitchen and garden.

Moonbeam

Don't forget to claim your tax relief on them to cheer yourself up slightly.

When I lived on the southside it was pay by weight and was an estimated annual sum at the start of the year witht he balance paid /refund at the end of it.