Will there ever be a Bobby Sands Street in the country?

CptSternn

I say rename Merrion Road in Ballsbridge (Dublin) Bobby Sands Street!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L965m4GB55c

Fratton Fred

CptSternn wrote:

I say rename Merrion Road in Ballsbridge (Dublin) Bobby Sands Street!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L965m4GB55c

Why? or more spcifically why Merrion Road?

is this your way of improving relations between Unionists and Republicans in the north?

DublinDes

Fratton Fred wrote:

Why? or more spcifically why Merrion Road?

is this your way of improving relations between Unionists and Republicans in the north?

" why Merrion Road? " - because the British embassy is on it

Nice one CptSternn

DublinDes

DublinDes wrote:

" why Merrion Road? " - because the British embassy is on it

Nice one CptSternn

No problem then London can rename Grosvenor Place to Oliver Cromwell Place, - touché.

CptSternn

Bobby Sands Street in Iran is where the brit embassy *used* to be located. After the Iranian government renamed it, the brit government spent tens of millions to wall up the front doors and build a new entry on the other side of the building so they could change their address from Bobby Sands Street.

...but for that year, the brit embassy in Iran was located on Bobby Sands Street.

Fratton Fred

CptSternn wrote:

Bobby Sands Street in Iran is where the brit embassy *used* to be located. After the Iranian government renamed it, the brit government spent tens of millions to wall up the front doors and build a new entry on the other side of the building so they could change their address from Bobby Sands Street.

...but for that year, the brit embassy in Iran was located on Bobby Sands Street.

That is old news, but thanks all the same.

Are you proposing Ireland follows Iran's example for diplomatic relations?

When Mr Orangeman from the north is shown around Dublin to see what they would be getting from a united Ireland, how do you think he will feel when he sees he will have to visit "Bobby Sands" street to renew hi passport?

In your honest opinion, will this little stunt help unionist/republican relations or hinder them.

Thankfully most people seem to have moved on from antagonising each other and prefer to look for a more peaceful option.

DublinDes

Deleted User wrote:

No problem then London can rename Grosvenor Place to Oliver Cromwell Place, - touché.

Yeah and we could refer to London on maps, the news etc as Derrylondon - touche

Fratton Fred wrote:

That is old news, but thanks all the same.

Are you proposing Ireland follows Iran's example for diplomatic relations?

When Mr Orangeman from the north is shown around Dublin to see what they would be getting from a united Ireland, how do you think he will feel when he sees he will have to visit "Bobby Sands" street to renew hi passport?

In your honest opinion, will this little stunt help unionist/republican relations or hinder them.

Thankfully most people seem to have moved on from antagonising each other and prefer to look for a more peaceful option.

" Mr Orangeman from the north is shown around Dublin " Wouldn't make the slightest difference to Mr Orangeman. Any reforms in the north have been due to greater nationalist political power due to the nationalist numbers growing and growing.
The unionist parties have opposed almost everything down the years that are part of the nationalist culture/identity. From grants to the GAA, Irish language (street signs in Irish for example), St Patrick's day parades ( unbeleiveable when you consider the 1,000's of cities around the world that have a Paddy's day parade and the second biggest city in Ireland did not have one - but that's unionism for you). There is now an offical St Paddy's day parade in Belfast, thanks to SF, SDLP and Alliance party majority on Belfast council. My father is from Belfast, I know a little about unionist 'generosity'. The records are there to prove it.

Fratton Fred

DublinDes wrote:

Yeah and we could refer to London on maps, the news etc as Derrylondon - touche




" Mr Orangeman from the north is shown around Dublin " Wouldn't make the slightest difference to Mr Orangeman. Any reforms in the north have been due to greater nationalist political power due to the nationalist numbers growing and growing.
The unionist parties have opposed almost everything down the years that are part of the nationalist culture/identity. From grants to the GAA, Irish language (street signs in Irish for example), St Patrick's day parades ( unbeleiveable when you consider the 1,000's of cities around the world that have a Paddy's day parade and the second biggest city in Ireland did not have one - but that's unionism for you). There is now an offical St Paddy's day parade in Belfast, thanks to SF, SDLP and Alliance party majority on Belfast council. My father is from Belfast, I know a little about unionist 'generosity'. The records are there to prove it.

you know, if you are going to change your user name, it would make sense to change the style of your posts, that way people may be fooled into thinking you haven't just been banned.

DublinDes

Fratton Fred wrote:

you know, if you are going to change your user name, it would make sense to change the style of your posts, that way people may be fooled into thinking you haven't just been banned.

Waht the f*ck are you on about ?

DublinDes

DublinDes wrote:

Yeah and we could refer to London on maps, the news etc as Derrylondon - touche

You can if you want to, there used to be pleanty of oak groves around London Tá Fáilte romhat go Doire Londain.

conor2007

i wud hope so

but there is one in india i think , on the street where the british embassy is , lololololol

cp251

Without reading any of the other posts. The answer is no, never. Not for a dead terrorist. There won't be any Gerry Adams street either for that matter. Remember the winning side gets to name the streets.

Borneo Fnctn

conor2007 wrote: »

i wud hope so

but there is one in india i think , on the street where the british embassy is , lololololol

Iran actually. It was previously called Winston Churchill Street. Good one eh?

mancduff

Your in the E.U now - get over it.:eek:

McArmalite

cp251 wrote: »

Without reading any of the other posts. The answer is no, never. Not for a dead terrorist. There won't be any Gerry Adams street either for that matter. Remember the winning side gets to name the streets.

Is that why the street signs in nationalist areas of Belfast and Derry are been written in Irish and English ??;)

dresden8

csk wrote: »

U2 are no longer subject to our tax regime. Are they now a Dutch Band?

Thankfully, yes. Now we can slag off that orange b@st@rd Bono.

mealone42

Hagar wrote: »

From Wiki:-


Apparently the Embassy gives its address as an adjoining street. You couldn't make that up.:D

I like it, I like it :D:D

conchubhar1

'' a crime is a crime is a crime'' - unless its committed by us

yes , there should be one
and please God there will be

as for a suicide terroist - or whatever the qoute someone said

''ach an féinmharú d'íobairtse?
ní géilleadh ní faoiseamh'' - michael davit - ''do bhobby sands an lá sular éag''- on the day he died

''but a suicidal sacrifice?
not submission,nor release''

RSF Cill Dara

cp251 wrote: »

Without reading any of the other posts. The answer is no, never. Not for a dead terrorist. There won't be any Gerry Adams street either for that matter. Remember the winning side gets to name the streets.

Bobby sands is a hero and not just in Ireland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACrcYikjTBY

How can the british terrorists have won when the war isnt over ?

RSF Cill Dara

"They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who does not want to be broken" - Bobby Sands

Pgibson

NO WAY.

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Pgibson

RSF Cill Dara wrote: »

"They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who does not want to be broken" - Bobby Sands

Ya wanna bet....look how Bobby Sands ended up.

And the Brit flag still flutters over Stormont.

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Pgibson

McArmalite wrote: »

Is that why the street signs in nationalist areas of Belfast and Derry are been written in Irish and English ??;)

Strangely, the street signs in downtown Glasgow are written in Scots Gaelic and English. (Not Lallans.)

Scots Gaelic is almost pure Irish Gaelic.

Under Queen St. Glasgow is "Sraid an MBanrionn"...my spelling may be off.

The Unionist nutters in N.I. are just as nutty as the Nationalist nutters.

(Like the ones who name themselves after firearms, Mr McArtillery-Piece.)


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JWAD

RSF Cill Dara wrote: »

Bobby sands is a hero and not just in Ireland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACrcYikjTBY

How can the british terrorists have won when the war isnt over ?

Bet you're just a hoot at parties, eh?

RSF Cill Dara

JWAD wrote: »

Bet you're just a hoot at parties, eh?

your a funny man :rolleyes:

JWAD

RSF Cill Dara wrote: »

your a funny man :rolleyes:

A sense of humour is required in case one ever bumps into a boring wannabe-Republican who will never move on.

RSF Cill Dara

JWAD wrote: »

A sense of humour is required in case one ever bumps into a boring wannabe-Republican who will never move on.

a wannabe republican? how would you know if i was boring or not ?

ejmaztec

JWAD wrote: »

A sense of humour is required in case one ever bumps into a boring wannabe-Republican who will never move on.

I think that it would be extremely boring, were we all to share the same opinions. There would be no point in discussing anything.

TheRealBoss

Pgibson wrote: »

Ya wanna bet....look how Bobby Sands ended up.

And the Brit flag still flutters over Stormont.

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And his fellow-travellers have surrendered !

RSF Cill Dara

TheRealBoss wrote: »

And his fellow-travellers have surrendered !

travellers?

Fratton Fred

RSF Cill Dara wrote: »

travellers?

sounds like an insult to the travelling community to me.

TheRealBoss

Fratton Fred wrote: »

sounds like an insult to the travelling community to me.

Jaysus, Fred you're right - apologies to all travellers


For RSF Cill Dara:
In some political contexts the term fellow traveler refers to a person who sympathizes with the beliefs of a particular organization, but does not belong to that organization. The phrase must be understood as referring to people who "walk part of the way" with an organization, without committing themselves to it.

Pgibson

Fratton Fred wrote: »

sounds like an insult to the travelling community to me.

I travel into work every day and I don't feel insulted.

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Fratton Fred

Pgibson wrote: »

I travel into work every day and I don't feel insulted.

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No, you probably aren't.

neil_hosey

my uncle has done a few murals of Bobby Sands which are very good in Belfast,never seen them in person but he;s promised me a tour ill upload some pics if anyone is interested.

Anyway back to the topic:
So obviously people dont think he will ever have a street named after him in the free state.. sure I suppose you could probably name a belfast street after him. What about changing "Sandy Row" to "Bobby Sands Row", im sure the inhabitants would love it, sure we could stick the sign here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SandyRowMural.JPG

:pac::pac:

RSF Cill Dara

neil_hosey wrote: »

my uncle has done a few murals of Bobby Sands which are very good in Belfast,never seen them in person but he;s promised me a tour ill upload some pics if anyone is interested.

Anyway back to the topic:
So obviously people dont think he will ever have a street named after him in the free state.. sure I suppose you could probably name a belfast street after him. What about changing "Sandy Row" to "Bobby Sands Row", im sure the inhabitants would love it, sure we could stick the sign here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SandyRowMural.JPG

:pac::pac:

yeah , i wouldnt mind having a look at them pics if you dont mind

Pgibson

neil_hosey wrote: »

Sure we could stick the sign here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SandyRowMural.JPG

:pac::pac:

Hope the people who put up the Sandy Row mural are paying Royalties to the people they copied it off:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Derry_mural.jpg

(Derry people might not like receiving "Royalties" though!)

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sligobhoy67

Shutuplaura wrote: »

Not sur eif this really belongs here in history/heritage but given the political hue of most other posts here why not?

There are plenty of Pearse Streets in the country, Collins has his own Avenue, and there is a Sean Treacy Terrace/Road in Carrick on Suir. IRA figures from the 1940's are commemorated - The GAA club in Tralee and Sean Russells Statue in Fairview etc. So in time what is the likelyhood of or there ever being some sort of Bobby Sands housing estate, street or school. (Terrance MacSwiney has at least a school named after him in Cork).

Also, would it be any different?

I sure hope so.

Centauro

Do you think we should have a street named after Mildred Harrison, a 26 year old Catholic girl murdered by the UVF whilst protecting her community?

http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Special_Rolls/Women_Police/Women_Police_Roll.htm

RSF Cill Dara

Centauro wrote: »

Do you think we should have a street named after Mildred Harrison, a 26 year old Catholic girl murdered by the UVF whilst protecting her community?

http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Special_Rolls/Women_Police/Women_Police_Roll.htm

NO! she was a member of the RUC

Pgibson

RSF Cill Dara wrote: »

NO! she was a member of the RUC

Typical.

Most Irish people have nothing but contempt for Bobby Sands.

When the Brits let him starve himself to death they saved the lives of the people he would have shot dead if he had got out.

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RSF Cill Dara

Pgibson wrote: »

Typical.

Most Irish people have nothing but contempt for Bobby Sands.

When the Brits let him starve himself to death they saved the lives of the people he would have shot dead if he had got out.

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most Irish people admired bobby sands for his bravery and sacrifice even if they didnt support the IRA or INLA


british soldiers and RUC are nothing but murders and scumbags !

Centauro

RSF Cill Dara wrote: »

IRA or INLA
are nothing but murders and scumbags !

When the Good Friday agreement was signed, hundreds of republican (and loyalist)prisoners were released from British gaols.

How many British prisoners were released from Republican gaols?

None. Zilch. Nada. That's because we all know that republicans murdered as a matter of course. Put a hood over your head, and shot you behind the ear.
That's when they weren't bombing our country to oblivion...

It was the bravery and dedication of the police, supported by the army, which saved this Island from another civil war.

Fratton Fred

As it is rememberence Sunday, i think it is apt to say that if you want to name a street after anyone, name it after gordon Wilson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Wilson_(peace_campaigner)

Pgibson

Fratton Fred wrote: »

As it is rememberence Sunday, i think it is apt to say that if you want to name a street after anyone, name it after gordon Wilson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Wilson_(peace_campaigner)

Hear Hear.

Gordon was a beacon of sanity in a Tsunami of mindless hate and revenge.

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HalloweenJack

A bit OT: Does Dev have a street, etc., named after him in this country?

I've never noticed one.

walrusgumble

HalloweenJack wrote: »

A bit OT: Does Dev have a street, etc., named after him in this country?

I've never noticed one.

THERE IS A ROAD IN LETTERKENNY NAMED AFTER HIM

walrusgumble

Centauro wrote: »

When the Good Friday agreement was signed, hundreds of republican (and loyalist)prisoners were released from British gaols.

How many British prisoners were released from Republican gaols?

None. Zilch. Nada. That's because we all know that republicans murdered as a matter of course. Put a hood over your head, and shot you behind the ear.
That's when they weren't bombing our country to oblivion...

It was the bravery and dedication of the police, supported by the army, which saved this Island from another civil war.

how many british "political" prisoners or other militants, including unionists have their being or are still incarated in the prisons of the 26 counties?

granted their was bount to be genuine decent people in the ruc, but they themselves, the protectors of law and order for BOTH communities were no angles. have you read the reports to ruc collusion? or how the british "reward" british soliders like brian nelson. any thing worth happening with the bloody sunday enquiry? where is the enquiry for pat finucane

if you are so outraged with the killings, look no further than the dublin / monaghan bombings, why dont you go out with the protesters in front of our own parliaments and demand an enquiry

RSF Cill Dara

Centauro wrote: »

When the Good Friday agreement was signed, hundreds of republican (and loyalist)prisoners were released from British gaols.

How many British prisoners were released from Republican gaols?

None. Zilch. Nada. That's because we all know that republicans murdered as a matter of course. Put a hood over your head, and shot you behind the ear.
That's when they weren't bombing our country to oblivion...

It was the bravery and dedication of the police, supported by the army, which saved this Island from another civil war.

is that the same "bravery" and dedication of the police , backed up by the army , when they burnt inocent irish people from their homes? or shot 14 people dead in derry , or maybe when they helped loyalist bomb Dublin and monaghan?



Some of the people who were murdered directly by the Royal Ulster Constabulary who now have a different badge under the guise of the PSNI,yet still harbouring the same bigotted murderers of these and many more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxPXU8sAW58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BKWW24sYSc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayXcfps1MUA&feature=PlayList&p=1AD0619E289FCE5E&index=0

what about the killing of billy reid ? who war unarmed and shot in the back, what about gibraltar? the British army murder of 3 unarmed IRA members in Gibraltar,what about loughgall? 8 unarmed members of the IRA murdered in a ambushed by british troops
of course republicans shot their prisoners , its not like they had barracks set up around the country

Fratton Fred

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Too off topc.