In the football world, rules are rules...

therecklessone

...except when David Dein is involved...:mad:

Extract from Carling Cup rules 2006/2007

In all Cup Competition matches, the Visiting Club shall have the right to claim 15 per cent of all tickets reserved or otherwise sold in advance (any variation to that figure shall be subject to the consent of the Management Committee) and on the following conditions: -

22.2.1 the request for tickets shall be made within three days of the draw, with the exception of the First Round where such request should be made no later than 14 days before the date of the match;

22.2.2 the admission prices to be charged to supporters of a Visiting Club shall not be higher than those charged to the supporters of the Home Club for comparable accommodation and in particular concessionary rates offered to senior citizens and junior supporters shall apply equally to both sets of supporters;

22.2.3 unless otherwise mutually agreed in writing, all tickets shall be on a sale or return basis; and

22.2.4 at every home match, a minimum of 15 per cent of the total disabled spectator accommodation must be made available to disabled supporters of the Visiting Club.

Yet the Football League quickly cave in to Dein when he claims Arsenal cannot guarantee the safety of visiting fans if allocated the full 15% (9k tickets), instead allowing the Goons to allocate a mere 5173 tickets to Spurs, so they can test their segregation plans at the Death Star.

I can't believe I scoffed at others when they claimed Dein has too much influence in football...apologies to you all, you know who you are.

[edit]In fact, the Goons were not even asked to allocate the full 15%, just 12.2% (the same % that Haringey police approved at WHL for their travelling mob)[/edit]

Peyton Manning

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kinaldo

the safety of fans should be paramount.

therecklessone

kinaldo wrote:

the safety of fans should be paramount.

I agree. Thats why Spurs accepted the decision of Haringey Police that we could only give Arsenal 12.2% of our capacity. Islington Police didn't make any such recommendation for the Death Star. The Football League asked Arsenal to give Spurs an equal %, they refused, the FL rolled over.

How did they get a safety certificate if they can't guarantee that given their inclusion in cup competitions that might involve them having to give a 15% allocation to visiting fans.

They had a friendly international between Argentina and Brazil, they could have tested the stadium segregation then.

Their stadium is designed to allow 9,000 away fans for cup games.

kinaldo

Hmmm...

Yeah, I'd keep an eye on that Dein fella alright. I wonder if he knows anything about mass food poisoning...

Noelie

The same argument can be said for liverpool, not about ticket allocations but general rules.
Look at how they got into the Champions League and now look at the way the want Mascherano.
All clubs will try and change the rules in their best interests, it will always be they way.

Thanx 4 The Fish

The same argument cannot be applied to Liverpool ion this situation at all actually Noelie. As liverpool do not have a representative on the comittee of the governing body of FIFA whereas DD has been one of the top guys at the FA for some time.

Liverpool are going after Mascherano but they are using the exemptions teams like Arsenal got for van persie and many others did as a driver for it, maintaining a precedent was there and so if other teams can get an exemption then why can they not.

As for this debacle, DD looks to have once again had his wicked way, but the good news is that he is soon to cease all involvement and there will be a Man U rep in his place..

therecklessone

And to think, had we met Liverpool in the semis they'd have had no problem handling 6,800 Spurs.

Manchester police could handle 20k+ from both sides in 2001.

Cardiff police could handle ManYoo, Millwall and the Soul Crew in 2004.

Maybe the London Olympics committee should look for new appointments at the upper levels of London's Metrepolitan Police, if they can't guarantee the safety of 7k Spurs fans at the Death Star what hope have they of providing security in 2012. The new Wembley was designed by the same architects as the Death Star, what happens if Spurs and Arsenal meet in the FA Cup final this year? 5k fans from both teams and 80k empty seats?