BushCraft Ireland

Evil Phil

On the subject of clubs you can get insurance through the MCI. Insurance will cover public liability, internal disputes and loss of limbs(!). You'll have to form a club, get a constitution together and apply to the MCI to become as aspirant club. I think the next date for clubs to become a full club is Feb 16 so get yer skates on.

Of course you're a mountain skills club, not a bushcraft club, seeing as you favour upland areas, right? Upland, not lowland right? If not I don't think the MCI could help you. Am I making this obvious enough?!

Crapbag

DaveMcG wrote: »

Anyone actually have a decent amount of experience in this though? I'm interested in it, but I've never done it before So it mightn't be recommended for a bunch of newbies to head into the woods together!

Sorry Dave but id have to disagree with you on this. Yes, we would all be inexperienced but some of us have some knowledge. If it was a sport with a high risk of serious injury than yes, having an expert with the right qualifications and experience would be essential. The injuries I could foresee would be mostly tool related or falls, sprains or cuts. If we took the proper precautions before going out, as with any camping trip I think we could cope with most problems. We would all be adults volunteering our time. You do have a point but I dont think that our lack of experience should deter us from doing something. Bushcraft is a practice without real support in this country, so it seems we dont have too many experts to call on by the looks of it.

I for one am all for the club idea. In the mean time though, if we classed our excursion to coillte as camping, would the same insurance problems apply? Its not ideal but it would mean that we at least get to meet and discuss things properly and get things off the ground while people are enthusiastic and willing. I know someone on the MCI board who I can get more information off. I will speak to him monday about it

fergalr

Just an opinion, and you probably shouldn't listen to me, but...

Before getting tied up in the beaurocracy of starting a club, shouldn't you guys just go camping together as a group?
I mean, no point trying to start a club if the people don't get along, and have similar interests... and trying to form a club together before even having one outing could kill your momentum.

Perhaps the people interested could just go wild camping in wicklow national park?
You don't need a permit for groups of less than ten people, according to the website.
Just going wild camping in the hills, with modern kit, might be adventurous enough as a first step. You could see how the weekend went, practice managing a campsite, discuss future plans etc. Just practicing simple outdoors craft might be a good first step before going into bushcraft...
Maybe stay away from anything dangerous (use of new tools?) and be conservative on your first outing. Something simple that's well within the groups' ability would be important - if you go into the hills with a load of people from Boards, you can't be sure what level different people will be at.
Make sure you have at least a few that know what they're doing.

If you decide that you need insurance to do this, you could affialiate to the MCI as individual members, which would be less work than setting up a club at the start.

Crapbag

fergalr wrote: »

Just an opinion, and you probably shouldn't listen to me, but...

Before getting tied up in the beaurocracy of starting a club, shouldn't you guys just go camping together as a group?
I mean, no point trying to start a club if the people don't get along, and have similar interests... and trying to form a club together before even having one outing could kill your momentum.

Perhaps the people interested could just go wild camping in wicklow national park?
You don't need a permit for groups of less than ten people, according to the website.
Just going wild camping in the hills, with modern kit, might be adventurous enough as a first step. You could see how the weekend went, practice managing a campsite, discuss future plans etc. Just practicing simple outdoors craft might be a good first step before going into bushcraft...
Maybe stay away from anything dangerous (use of new tools?) and be conservative on your first outing. Something simple that's well within the groups' ability would be important - if you go into the hills with a load of people from Boards, you can't be sure what level different people will be at.
Make sure you have at least a few that know what they're doing.

If you decide that you need insurance to do this, you could affialiate to the MCI as individual members, which would be less work than setting up a club at the start.

Thats a very valid point. Thats what i was trying to get across in my last comment. Just to get the ball rolling to begin with and talk about how to proceed. We just need to get a time and place agreed

pirelli

It sounds like a great idea and if someone had some skills it would be a great learning from them.I imagine a scenario where people with modern outdoor gear not being very impressed with learner bush craft outdoor people trying to do it the traditional Ray Mears fashion. if someone has any skills they would be golddust. I am a fan of compulsive bull****ter Bear Grylls, and it could be bear grylls and ray mears and Lee stroud all rolled into one with some deadliest climb too.

fergalr

bear grylls and ray mears and Lee stroud all rolled into one with some deadliest climb too.

Hey, sounds like you're trying to kill off the population of the forum!
Deadliest climb? Hopefully not!
Whatever about Mr. Mears and Survivorman, don't go emulating old Bear too closely... "got stuck midway up Djouce with darkness coming down so we decided the best thing to do was to jump down powerscourt waterfall"...

Dave!

haha, yeah, I dont think im quite ready to seek shelter from the wind in an animal carcass -- just yet!

Evil Phil

fergalr wrote: »

"got stuck midway up Djouce with darkness coming down so we decided the best thing to do was to jump down powerscourt waterfall"...

Don't you mean, "got stuck midway up Djouce with darkness coming so we called in the chopper and it was back to the hotel for a martini. A martini with a pink umbrella in it!".

IPNA

Hi,

I am interested in bushcraft skills and some of us here in Kerry are putting together a skills group that meets once in awhile to practice. We are going tracking rabbits this morning.

I have just moved here from Canada and don't know if there are wild places here in Ireland where a small group could go for an overnight survival trip.

Over the past ten years, I have attended survival courses offered by Tom Brown jr, and Jon Young in the US. I wonder how hard it would be to apply these skills to Ireland?

Crapbag

Hi,

We are currently trying to get something similar together close to the Dublin area. Some of us have done courses and some are just enthusiasts. Does your group have an area which you meet? How did you go abour arranging it? Some of us were thinking of setting up a club. Given bushcraft is only fledgeling activity in this country, it would be good to get people from all over the country involved. Would it be possible to meet with you guys at some stage?

IPNA

Do you have wilderness areas in the Dublin area? Our group meets here in North Kerry. We plan to do some walks in Killarney. I think that we will set up a club as well if not just for the insurance. I thought that Canada and the US were the only ones who sued everything that moves. I guess it is here as well.

So far we arrange it through word of mouth. I have been struggling with ideas for getting the word out.

I agree that all of the interested folks here in Ireland should get together once in awhile and share skills. I saw the CELT website and it sounds like they do great things, but maybe there could be a gathering over a bank holiday weekend once a season or so.

I am just at the beginning stages and would like to hear what other people think.

Crapbag

Unfortunately Ireland has gone insurance crazy in recent years. We havent had a meet in Dublin yet but we are trying to get somewhere sorted for it. It seems to be something people are definitely interested in. Formalizing it into clubs may be the way to go to get people more involved. I have talked to someone in the MCI who said that you can get insured through the MCI as long as you are a member of the MCI. I will try get into the MCI HQ and try discuss something more formal soon, just trying to arrange the time and the right person to meet.

ryanrod

Another fella worth checking out is

http://www.ancientirishbushcraft.com

He does journeys down the Barrow River and camping out on the banks.
(I don't have anything to do with the courses)

I did it a couple of years ago before it started to be called bushcraft.
We used call it camping or getting out in nature.
What I did find was the different perspective/peace and quiet going down
a river with no sound of cars!

I would like to find a good woodland walk near to the south east, Ireland
seems to be a little denuded of trees, anyone any suggestions?

deepforest

Dear All, I found this site by accident the other evening when searching Bushcraft info. I felt I had to register and reply to the comments RE: Bushcraft and Ray Mears.

I have resided near Lough Ree in the Midlands for thirty years but in the last few years have been working in the UK. I have been camping and trying my best at woodcraft and wildlife tracking since I was a kid but always felt like I was the odd one out. However in the Eighties Mr. Mears came along and shed new light on my interests. Ever since I have been an avid admirer and follower. He was the one to make bushcraft such an acceptable topic. Since then I have attended Bushcrasft courses in the Uk and can say without exaggeration that his courses are outstanding.

When I read the comments on the Irish site about Mears and Bushcraft I smiled and said to my Partner, isn't it funny how even after the Celtic Tiger and Modern Ireland, people (some albeit) are still begrudgers and stuck in the past. In the Uk Ray Mears has a well earned reputation.

Its a pity that some people on the site chose to comment on him so unfairly, but then I'm reckoning these lads are living in a village similar to Killanskully with a pint in one hand and a hurley in the other.

My advice is don't knock what you havn't tried!! And if you have attended a woodlore or woodsmoke course and are commenting like this then there is something wrong as all the students I studied with were deeply affected(in a very positive way) by being on these courses!.

One other point, Tiglin is an adventure centre and never even heard of bushcraft in its time. I remember calling around Ireland and being almost laughed at by Irish Orgs when I enquired about their "Survival courses".

Mears invented modern bushcraft (not survival), weight is not an issue if he can light fires in one minute with the fire bow and you can't in a month, and his friends on the show are his friends.
Lars Felt has been an instructor in Rays School for years before retiring and Gordon Hillman has been credited in Rays Bushcrsaft book. I spoke To Ben McNutt who is also Irish(From Donegal) and he speaks extremely highly of Mears.

Ps if you dont know who these people are then you shouldn't be commenting.

Lastly, if there are any bushcraft students out there in the country and fancy a camping or canoeing trip just drop as line.

Regards
Deepforest

pirelli

DaveMcG wrote: »

haha, yeah, I dont think im quite ready to seek shelter from the wind in an animal carcass -- just yet!

fergalr wrote: »

Hey, sounds like you're trying to kill off the population of the forum!
Deadliest climb? Hopefully not!
Whatever about Mr. Mears and Survivorman, don't go emulating old Bear too closely...

deepforest wrote: »

Dear All, I found this site by accident the other evening when searching Bushcraft info. I felt I had to register and reply to the comments RE: Bushcraft and Ray Mears.

In the Uk Ray Mears has a well earned reputation.

I would say it is most of the Population.! As usual there will be more posts on Ray Mears and survivorman than there will ever be about a group from boards.ie weaving bark into fishing nets and carving out Kuksa's in the wet wicklow undergrowth.Anyway its started already.

http://bearclawsbushcraft.blogspot.com/2007/08/coming-soon-kuksa.html

tiny-nioclas

just found this thread now, am i a bit late? i would love to get involved with some bushcraft group in ireland, all my life ive been fishing hunting snaring and just roaming the countryside learning all i can, have ye set anything up??

Evil Phil

Deepforest banned permanently. I will not tolerate personal abuse or racial slurs on this forum.

cavedave

Ray Mears does rock. Even if people do not decide to go live in a cave if he gets people to go for a bit of a walk in the woods he has done a very good thing.

Mears invented modern bushcraft (not survival), weight is not an issue if he can light fires in one minute with the fire bow and you can't in a month, and his friends on the show are his friends.

Apologies I made one unfunny joke. It was not meant to be taken that seriously.

Crapbag

Ok Ok so the thread has stalled slightly. To get things back on track I have finally gotten around to speaking directly to the MCI. In particular I was speaking to the members support officer who replied very positively to our suggestions of setting up a club. Could those interested in helping form this club please PM me. We would need to at least get on the phone to each other, if not meet up. The MCI naturally want to see what the activities of our club involves and what the principles of such a club would be. She has sent me some information in relation to club formation which I can forward to people on request. Lets get the ball rolling

tiny-nioclas

what part of the country are ye organising in? in my opion ray mears is a legend, he has set the seed of bushcraft and self suffiency in everyones mind again, and bear grylls is a proven fake, he annoys me to watch him on the tv, pretending hes doing something he is obviously does not.

Crapbag

Initially I was thinking the greater Dublin area for now but it would be better to get people all over the country involved. The more people the better. That way people can arrange meets in several different areas.

tiny-nioclas

good stuff, let me know if anything goes on will ye, cheers.

Crapbag

I was speaking to a Member of Coillte in relation to getting permission to use a forrest. I asked about Saggart Hill forrest but unfortunately they cant allow it in there. He said that Crone in Wicklow near Glencree can be used. Its near the Powerscourt waterfall near the wicklow way. All Id have to do is ring him to ask permission. He also gave me another number of a guy from the recreation side of Coillte who might be willing to speak with me in relation to getting someone to talk about Coillte and its function with forrestry. So with that in mind does anyone want to meet up there some weekend to practice and discuss setting up a club?

mark k

ah me and a mate did something like this during the mid-term,up in the wicklow mountains for 4 days.was cold ,very fecking cold -6/5 at one stage so all i say to people is have somthing warm.
also(and no negativity just somthing to say) when i always talk to people i hear them going on about how much they'd love to do it and yet never do.So just commit yourself and go.dont talk about it, do it:)

Trailblazer

I couldn't agree more with deepforest's coment about bushcraft and begrudry in this country.
Try reading some of the work of Ray Mears, or for that matter Mors Kochanski, before critsizing them.
In my opinion, being humble and having and open mind is essential to being a decent bushcrafter. How could you hope to track a fox through woodland, with a closed mind.
It's not about clubs and insurance. Just go for a walk in the woods, and not go home for three days. You will learn a lot more about bushcraft than reading anything on this forum.

Much respect and humility to all.

Gu3rr1lla

Hey, I've been interested in Bushcraft/ wilderness survival all my life but it's only now, seeing as Airsoft is getting more and more popular in Ireland, that I'm actually doing this stuff.

Trailblazer wrote: »

Just go for a walk in the woods, and not go home for three days. You will learn a lot more about bushcraft than reading anything on this forum.

Much respect and humility to all.

Couldn't agree more, it makes you appreciate life and our Earth much more (Well for me anyway)


Would it be possible to have a Bushcraft forum on Boards?

Evil Phil

Yes it is possible. You'd have to suggest it here. I'd wholeheartedly support it too, this bushcraft thing has required more moderation than the rest of the forum put together.

Don't get me wrong, its the attention it obviously getting through the search engines that's bringing in problem users, its not the regulars. (And on that note, if your new and don't want to get banned please read the forum charter.) I don't think there's enough interest to warrent its own forum though, but its worth a try.

Roen

Gu3rr1lla wrote: »

Hey, I've been interested in Bushcraft/ wilderness survival all my life but it's only now, seeing as Airsoft is getting more and more popular in Ireland, that I'm actually doing this stuff.



Couldn't agree more, it makes you appreciate life and our Earth much more (Well for me anyway)


Would it be possible to have a Bushcraft forum on Boards?

It's pretty quiet in the Outdoors forum to be honest, I imagine the Bushcraft forum would be pretty much tumble weed territory. Post here to express an interest in getting a dedicated forum if you're up for it.

Anyway, my interest is still there. My back is holding up after two months of no grief, so I should be ok for a meet.


**EDIT** I hope no-one is singling out my review earlier in the thread for criticism, I thought it to be fair and unbiased. I certainly didn't mean it to be negative in any way.

Crapbag

Im hoping to get a weekend organised in the Wicklow area. Myself and another board member are working on getting a club formed but in the mean time it would be good to get a meet going. We will be scouting out the area set out by coillte really soon. Id say a couple of my adventure skill classmates will be coming aswell so Id like to open it to people on the boards provided they are coming for the right reasons that is :-) I will update you with a date fairly soon

cruelsetanta

DaveMcG wrote: »

Yeah I just realised that the coldness might be a factor The Bushcraft Ireland course is April, May, and June, so if I have the money (E275) I'll probably do one of those. I'd probably be on for camping before that though, just busy busy busy for the next month at least. We shall see how it goes anywho, keep an eye on the non-drinking forum and you'll see any developments.

Don't do it mate, would'nt trust him, he wasnt straight about his post and as well as that he doesnt give details of his location just skerries so u could get screwed. Whats happen here sounds good I'm going to check a place out weekend after next. I'll put a post about it, any futher development on ur side Crapbag.

Trailblazer

cruelsetanta wrote: »

Don't do it mate, would'nt trust him, he wasnt straight about his post and as well as that he doesnt give details of his location just skerries so u could get screwed. Whats happen here sounds good I'm going to check a place out weekend after next. I'll put a post about it, any futher development on ur side Crapbag.

Hi Cruelsetanta,
Firstly let me say I have nothing to do with this Bushcraft Ireland crowd, but I have been on a couple of week long Bushcraft courses in the UK (Woodcraft and Woodsmoke) they will be very cadgy about the site location. They will give a meeting place somewhere remote from the site. They quote reasons of safety, security etc. etc. . To be honest I can see why they don't openly advertise their exact location you know. If I knew of a place here in Ireland tolerant of bushcrafters camping overnight and lighting fires in their woodland, I would be in there every other weekend.

To be honest we should give the Irish bushcraft schools more support. There is Antonio Akkermanns up in the north, Bushcraft Ireland near Dublin and Ancient Irish Bushcraft down in Limerick.
Kind of goes back to my earlier post in response to Deepforest's post about begrudgers and bushcraft in this country.

Much respect and Humility

Trailblazer

cruelsetanta

Gran Hermano wrote: »

SHILL ALERT!

Bit of a coincidence Frank that you have 3 posts, 2 of them singing the
praises of this company. Especially when I see this:

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=bushcraftireland.com

Will you be booking the course or giving it?

Hi Trailblazer,

I’m not out to be unsupportive to any school teaching the ways of “Bushcraft” it’s just frank was very deceiving in his post, it just didn’t sit right with me. If he had set up his own tread an told all (and there is a lot if interest in this ) about his school then I would have been very supportive and probably book just to see what was on offer over here as were all aware that there not many teaching this skill.

I’m quite like your self and others, I’ve been on a couple of courses in UK in mid nineties, and I totally agree with what Deep Forest said (don’t full understand why he was banned). I’m not a begrudger !!!!
It’s just my opinion on this particular person and how he acted. I just think he should of been straight with us in this forum.

Much respect back to you and hope to meet up and share the knowledge.:)

CruelSetanta

Crapbag

Hi again guys,

I wanted to meet up possibly this weekend to visit this site in Krone, Wicklow. The aim simply being to check the area and meet up with people who are serious about this. I know Ive been dragging this out but like all of us im sure, im quite busy at the best of times. I would like to hear peoples views and get a feel for what people expected from a club. I dont want to rush ahead and go solo on what my ideas of bushcraft are and place them into a club without peoples input. Again if interested in meeting up this Sunday (April 6th) please contact me via PM. Also you dont have to be too interested to forming or joining a club, maybe you just want somewhere to practice. Id like to meet anyone who has an interest really

On another note. Im still in conversation with the MCI, they are asking questions like, how I would deal with working with tools, regulating membership etc. They suggested I get onto the CELT crowd in Clare to see how they do it, which I will be doing today hopefully.

fenris

I am also interested in this!

At the moment my bushcraft related activity is limited to wandering the hills with my 3.5 year old son and our dog, following footprints, stepping carefully around dinosaur bones and skulls (Fallow deer to you and me) building basic shelter and having a picnic.


Maybe we need to just plan in some minor activities with a view to a more major activity later in the year?

Scouting Crone sounds like a good start!

It will allow some of the most basic boxes to be ticked like:
Where?
Who are we?
Basic skills needed/to be developed
What resources are available/needed? e.g. transport.
Basic practical ground rules to be discussed (agreed is probably optimistic considering that we are meeting through boards.ie :-) )
Contingency planning - injury, foul weather etc.
Most importantly - starting to do someting!

My feeling is that we should be individually self sufficient, but capable of combining to provide luxury!

Too much organisation will probably kill this before it gets started so we should probably refrain from forming any rigidly structured club, but reserve the right to tighten up as required. e.g. if we want to run an excercise where someone wants to practice navigation/cooking/shelter building and others are not too particular as long as they just get some fresh air, then it should be possible to co-exist safely.

I am currently recovering from an injured ankle so I am not up for a big walk but can provide support in a localised manner!

Maybe we should have a mini meetup at the boards beers this friday?

Evil Phil

For the club you'll need:

• A club commitee
• Club officers (Treasurer, Secretary, El Presidente)
• A club consitution which pretty much outlines how the club is run, how members are accepted/rejected/kicked out, how officers and commitee members are elected. That sort of thing.
• Club rules.
• A membership form accepting the club rules and constitution.
• Membership list.

And probably more, but that's what we had to do. Once we had this we could apply for MCI affilation. Your members will either have to be MCI members or become MCI members when they join the club.

One advantage to being a club is VAT exemption. This means you could arrange training through the club and save your members a few quid.

Crapbag

fenris wrote: »

I am also interested in this!

At the moment my bushcraft related activity is limited to wandering the hills with my 3.5 year old son and our dog, following footprints, stepping carefully around dinosaur bones and skulls (Fallow deer to you and me) building basic shelter and having a picnic.


Maybe we need to just plan in some minor activities with a view to a more major activity later in the year?

Scouting Crone sounds like a good start!

It will allow some of the most basic boxes to be ticked like:
Where?
Who are we?
Basic skills needed/to be developed
What resources are available/needed? e.g. transport.
Basic practical ground rules to be discussed (agreed is probably optimistic considering that we are meeting through boards.ie :-) )
Contingency planning - injury, foul weather etc.
Most importantly - starting to do someting!

My feeling is that we should be individually self sufficient, but capable of combining to provide luxury!

Too much organisation will probably kill this before it gets started so we should probably refrain from forming any rigidly structured club, but reserve the right to tighten up as required. e.g. if we want to run an excercise where someone wants to practice navigation/cooking/shelter building and others are not too particular as long as they just get some fresh air, then it should be possible to co-exist safely.

I am currently recovering from an injured ankle so I am not up for a big walk but can provide support in a localised manner!

Maybe we should have a mini meetup at the boards beers this friday?

Like I said, all are welcome to scout. Ill be meeting another board member in Blessington at 11am and then going on to Crone from there. If you want my contact details please PM me. Unfortunately im not available on friday evening.

For now, I am not ruling anything out from a club point of view. Like Evil Phil says we need to have a small bit of structure before getting associate membership from the MCI which is why I would like to meet up with people. We wont spend the entire day in the area but a brief discussion and exchange of ideas and contact details would be a good start

bitemybanger

Crapbag wrote: »

Like I said, all are welcome to scout. Ill be meeting another board member in Blessington at 11am and then going on to Crone from there. If you want my contact details please PM me. Unfortunately im not available on friday evening.

For now, I am not ruling anything out from a club point of view. Like Evil Phil says we need to have a small bit of structure before getting associate membership from the MCI which is why I would like to meet up with people. We wont spend the entire day in the area but a brief discussion and exchange of ideas and contact details would be a good start

Keep me posted, ill do everything in my power to be at the first meet:)

Crapbag

We were up in Crone today. Its promising, we found an area perfect for what we need. Not too far from the car park yet nicely tucked away from the main tracks. There is a source of water nearby too. We are probably going to arrange a weekend for later this month. Given that we are not yet established properly wont be bring too many people with us so if you are interested in coming please PM me. We not be able to accommodate everybody given the area size so its first come etc. Right now we arent insured by anybody as a group (because technically there is no group yet) so you would be coming out of your own accord.

cruelsetanta

Hi all met up with Crapbag and friend yesterday in Crone. A bit disappointed with turn out considering the amount of interest and talk and 4,665 hits on this tread:mad:. But anyways
As a start off it looks a very good spot, very very promising location as well as a conifer forest, there is a broad leaf forest just across the road for all you nature lovers or for those who want to source out some wild food. Crone has a lot to offer, natural resources to make camp, cooking and accessories.

Just imagine spending a couple of nights in the forest, sleeping in a shelter that you just build from natural resources which is in abundance all around you and learning from each others experiences an most of all having a bit of a laugh, it could be good for all interested.

I know some might be sceptical about forming a club, but think about it! As a formed group with some structure there are a lot of benefits not only could VAT be clamed back but we could get more of a discount with a number of us wanting to do a course or refresher, Collite mightn’t like the idea of a few lads an girls (if they don’t mind getting there nails dirty:rolleyes:) without some form of structure. So if interested PM Crapbag, let us know what experience (if any) and what you expect to get out or do over the weekend. Maybe we could do a couple of workshops like Shelter building, finding water and making it safe to use, navigation, improvising a map, signaling for rescue an much more, so lads lets get it on.;)

IPNA

Sorry I missed it. It sounded like fun. It is a bit of a drive to come from South Kerry for an overnight.
This weekend the wife and I looked at Kilarney National Park for overnight options. There are some areas that are off the beaten path. I don't know if the park rangers would like a bunch of people practicing survival skills, but if the group was small enough.......

robp

Shame i couldn't attend, Crone is a bit far for me outside the summer. Making a club sounds a real good idea, to get something regular going.

IPNA wrote: »

Sorry I missed it. It sounded like fun. It is a bit of a drive to come from South Kerry for an overnight.
This weekend the wife and I looked at Kilarney National Park for overnight options. There are some areas that are off the beaten path. I don't know if the park rangers would like a bunch of people practicing survival skills, but if the group was small enough.......

Killarney would also be a bit easier for me to get out to.
Officially camping isn't really allowed but I doubt they would mind if it’s only a small group.
I certainly didn't have any trouble when I camped there.

Gu3rr1lla

Hi, I would defenetely be up for this. I wont have free time until I finish college for the summer but after that I would love to take part, and I have a friend too that would be interested. We sometimes bushcraft in a Coillte forest near Navan while playing Airsoft. Though it doesn't have an adundance of food there. I may not be educated on Bushcraft but I am educated to learn.

Keep us posted on the next meetup!

Crapbag

Hi Guys,

Sorry i havent updated you if you were watching the thread. Myself and cruelsetanta have been plugging away at getting things organised for this weekend. Unfortunately we hit one or two administrative snags that has delayed the trip. We are working on the solution and hope to get the thing back on track soon. I will update you all again when we have more information and dates of interest

Weidii

I'd be very interested in this if it was going on anywhere around the Galway/Mayo area. Sounds like an amazing idea.

It has gotten me thinking about setting up a bushcraft club in college next semester.

pirelli

cruelsetanta wrote: »

Hi Trailblazer,

I’m not out to be unsupportive to any school teaching the ways of “Bushcraft” it’s just frank was very deceiving in his post, it just didn’t sit right with me. If he had set up his own tread an told all (and there is a lot if interest in this ) about his school then I would have been very supportive and probably book just to see what was on offer over here as were all aware that there not many teaching this skill.

I’m quite like your self and others, I’ve been on a couple of courses in UK in mid nineties, and I totally agree with what Deep Forest said (don’t full understand why he was banned). I’m not a begrudger !!!!
It’s just my opinion on this particular person and how he acted. I just think he should of been straight with us in this forum.

Much respect back to you and hope to meet up and share the knowledge.:)

CruelSetanta

I think we should lay off Frank5446

1. That user cant post to defend themselves and we cant be certain it is Frank.

2. Sending crapbag a PM is not the same as posting on the forum.

3. We dont know what that persons situation is. As far as I am concerned that person has achieved what this thread has failed to achieve.

Excluding any part of the bushcraft market would biased and unfair.

Crapbag

Hi guys,

Sorry for not updating for a bit but ive been busy with exams. Good news, our club has been approved by the MCI for associate membership, meaning we will be able to run club meet ups really soon. The condition is that our members are also members of the Mountaineering Council of Ireland. So if you wish to be a member of the club you will more than likely have to be a member of the MCI, however i will be discussing a work around with the MCI if they are open to it. This is a good step forward in my opinion and I will update you soon with our first proper club meeting. This has taken a while to get moving and im hoping that we have jumped most of the hoops so watch this space

bitemybanger

Crapbag wrote: »

Hi guys,

Sorry for not updating for a bit but ive been busy with exams. Good news, our club has been approved by the MCI for associate membership, meaning we will be able to run club meet ups really soon. The condition is that our members are also members of the Mountaineering Council of Ireland. So if you wish to be a member of the club you will more than likely have to be a member of the MCI, however i will be discussing a work around with the MCI if they are open to it. This is a good step forward in my opinion and I will update you soon with our first proper club meeting. This has taken a while to get moving and im hoping that we have jumped most of the hoops so watch this space

Thats excellent news, cant wait to hear more and go on the first offical meet:)

pirelli

Crapbag wrote: »

Hi guys,

Sorry for not updating for a bit but ive been busy with exams. Good news, our club has been approved by the MCI for associate membership, meaning we will be able to run club meet ups really soon. The condition is that our members are also members of the Mountaineering Council of Ireland. So if you wish to be a member of the club you will more than likely have to be a member of the MCI, however i will be discussing a work around with the MCI if they are open to it. This is a good step forward in my opinion and I will update you soon with our first proper club meeting. This has taken a while to get moving and im hoping that we have jumped most of the hoops so watch this space

Congratulations Crapbag, That's very good news. It's also sound business for the MCI. I have edited my above post, but I have to ask does that make MCI persons members of the club or is it a club with membership starting on this forum.

Crapbag

pirelli wrote: »

Congratulations Crapbag, That's very good news. It's also sound business for the MCI. I have edited my above post, but I have to ask does that make MCI persons members of the club or is it a club with membership starting on this forum.

Thanks. Im not entirely sure what you are asking there. MCI members do not automatically become club members. Someone who wants to join the club must be a member of the MCI. The reason I wanted to do it through the MCI is mainly for insurance reasons. However if we as a club are associated with the MCI, it also means that when we deal with land usage or legislative issues, we have a recognised name to be assoicated with. The club must adhere to some of the policies of the MCI but from my understanding, alot of the ideals are at the heart of Bushcraft anyway, such as environmental issues and conservation.

I think that being associated with the MCI is a highly positive thing and it looks to be the first formal club set up in the country. If you are interested in joining, it would cost you the registration fee of the MCI which is about 30 euros. I would hold off registering until we have a date set for our first meeting which im hoping to organise early next month. I just need to Iron out some things with the MCI and Coillte.

Just a word of warning to those interested. We will not be involved in Bear Grylls style survival. Bushcraft is a very different concept and is related more so to primative living and subsistance living off the land. I also am interested in emergency survival techniques but this is not the purpose of the club. If you are interested in this area, there are courses available and those willing to teach them.

pirelli

Crapbag wrote: »

Just a word of warning to those interested. We will not be involved in Bear Grylls style survival. Bushcraft is a very different concept and is related more so to primative living and subsistance living off the land. I also am interested in emergency survival techniques but this is not the purpose of the club. If you are interested in this area, there are courses available and those willing to teach them.

No warning required.

SAS survival and bushcraft and the outdoors have much in common but Bushcraft as a recreational hobby and as a particular club would be quite a different experience in my opinion and from my perspective. I dont think many would imagine that bushcraft involves running down steep mountain ravines and following rivers to local civilisations.


(Just checking out MCI, I havent seen bushcraft on their clubs site just yet.)