truth about tallaght IT???

flynnser19

ok everyone ive asked about tallaght has said it's boring....come on i wanna hear it from you guys???lemme know asap!!!thanx xxx

Motley Crue

flynnser19 wrote:

ok everyone ive asked about tallaght has said it's boring....

Ill just stop you there. Ive learned that Tallaght IT can be as exciting and as boring as you make it yourself. Anyone who says the IT is boring is obviously not engaging themselves or making the effort. Truth be told I rarely do that as much as I should, but I dont go around proclaiming the school is boring by any means, and I certainly wouldnt ask other pupils what 'the real truth' actually is.I havent a notion why youre asking this information, although I assume its because youre entering Tallaght next Semester (or this one) and you want to find out.

Id judge everything as it happens to you, when it happens, and if you want to make something exciting then you suggest to some classmates that you go for a drink after class and you be the one to suggest that people should get involved in X and Y society, or found one yourself. But please, for the love of god, dont be a sheep and just expect someone to tell you what the craic is like before youve even experienced it so you can make a predetermined decision about the nature of the college....leave that attitude at the door, youre in college for flips sake!

And Good Luck in Tallaght IT

Giblet

Brand new bar just opened outside the front gate, pretty decent as well, has some nice food too.

ANXIOUS

Giblet wrote:

Brand new bar just opened outside the front gate, pretty decent as well, has some nice food too.

Which is over priced and under staffed. it tallaght is a hole plain and simple if you compare our facilties to any other in the country dkit, wit, and dit are amazing compared to us. Our canteen is a joke also overpriced we havent even got a football pitch dressing roooms or any sports facilites. it is a very depressing plce

Oirthir

Which is over priced and under staffed. it tallaght is a hole plain and simple if you compare our facilties to any other in the country dkit, wit, and dit are amazing compared to us. Our canteen is a joke also overpriced we havent even got a football pitch dressing roooms or any sports facilites. it is a very depressing plce

Ever tried to fix any of this?

flynnser19

thanks everyone!!jus checkin if the general consensus is true!!i dont care if the course i wanna do is there i dont mind i jus wanted to hear the truth!!!it was no dig at anyone motley but thanks for your help your a star!!!!chat l8r xxxxx

ANXIOUS

Oirthir wrote:

Ever tried to fix any of this?

Yes, i no longer eat in the college, i go either home or outside. Ive wrote to two minsters about the facilties and what do they do give us a soccer pitch but not a gaa pitch (probally times idea) even though they already have a pitch even though the gaa socirty is the most sucessful in the college.

Have you done anything oirthir?

Giblet

4 euro for a pint in an external bar is hardly overpriced.

Mr. Presentable

ANXIOUS wrote:

Yes, i no longer eat in the college, i go either home or outside. Ive wrote to two minsters about the facilties and what do they do give us a soccer pitch but not a gaa pitch (probally times idea) even though they already have a pitch even though the gaa socirty is the most sucessful in the college.

Have you done anything oirthir?

If you have indeed written to two ministers about the facilities, I hope you did so in a more legible manner. They probably didn't know that the gaa (sic) Society is the most successful:confused:

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Tom Dunne

Careful now, nipplenuts, keep it civil.

Oirthir

ANXIOUS wrote:

Have you done anything oirthir?

I have in fact.

Amongst other things, I've occupied the Department of Education to demand better funding. I've sat on almost every college committee to push for the rights of the student body.

I argued against the implementation of a parking disc system in the college that would have provided only staff with guaranteed parking discs, then have students fight over the remaining spaces.

I argued for a better system for appealing exam results (a system which is to be implemented in the next year or so) amongst a pile of other education based reforms in the college.

I helped increased Clubs and Socs funding across the board, including giving the GAA club the most money per member, despite it not having the most members. I helped setup the paintball club. It had in excess of 200 active members that year.

I organised and ran fables/socials more times than I care to remember, according to what students asked for, even when I knew it would probably flop.

I'm an active member of the Netsoc, i've been a class rep every year I've studied here and I've been the Deputy President of the SU and a National Student Union Officer (During which time, I saw places in a worse state than Tallaght).

IT Tallaght is what you make it, so just cause you don't like it, doesn't make it depressing place for everyone.

ANXIOUS

Giblet wrote:

4 euro for a pint in an external bar is hardly overpriced.

The pub in the villiage is 3.80 and i dont drink pints. All the food in that place is already pre-made from out side sources all they do is heat it up.

ANXIOUS

Oirthir wrote:

I argued against the implementation of a parking disc system in the college that would have provided only staff with guaranteed parking discs, then have students fight over the remaining spaces..

I don't drive so i don't really care, however kaving spoke to someone who does care. They have informed me that people parking their car there and going away for the day. I.e. getting the luas into work. Is taking up hugh a hugh number of spaces. So bring in disc's would probally benifit the problem seeing as how it cuts out the people leaving their cars. Are you guranteed a spot now? No your not, so what difference does it make?

Oirthir wrote:

I helped increased Clubs and Socs funding across the board, including giving the GAA club the most money per member, despite it not having the most members. I helped setup the paintball club. It had in excess of 200 active members that year.

Are you sure the GAA team recieves the most money per memeber? I think that three clubs recieve the same amount Gaa, soccer and rugby. And correct me if i'm wrong but the Gaa has more members then both of them.

Oirthir wrote:

(During which time, I saw places in a worse state than Tallaght).

Care to state where? Dkit, wit, dit, lit, cit ,bit, and letterkenny it

Oirthir wrote:

IT Tallaght is what you make it, so just cause you don't like it.

Who said i don't like it?

ANXIOUS

nipplenuts wrote:

If you have indeed written to two ministers about the facilities, I hope you did so in a more legible manner. They probably didn't know that the gaa (sic) Society is the most successful:confused:

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If you have nothing to add to the debate stay out.

Oirthir

ANXIOUS wrote:

what difference does it make?

The system we argued for was to give the students first chance at discs over staff or to at least keep them equal.

I'm not against a disc parking system, just against one that favours staff over students. It's like the square blocking off 75% of parking spaces for Tesco staff then letting paying customers fight for the rest. It's a bloody joke.

At least now every driving student has an equal shot as the staff.

ANXIOUS wrote:

Are you sure the GAA team recieves the most money per memeber? I think that three clubs recieve the same amount Gaa, soccer and rugby. And correct me if i'm wrong but the Gaa has more members then both of them.

The amount each club or soc receives changes from year to year depending on their requirements versus the amount available, but the sports clubs generally receive a disproportionate amount compared to the socs.

As for GAA membership, that also changes from year to year, but I can tell you for a fact that the paintball club used to have more members and got a lot less money and had to fight for every penny, whereas GAA got it a lot easier.

ANXIOUS wrote:

Care to state where? Dkit, wit, dit, lit, cit ,bit, and letterkenny it

Bar CIT, they all don't have any kind of facilities when compared to their nearest University.

Lots of the the University linked colleges (such as the teacher training colleges) are also seriously lacking in good facilities.

It's a nationwide thing for third level, it's not just us.

ANXIOUS wrote:

Who said i don't like it?

You said the college was "a very depressing place". I don't like being depressed, so I took that to mean you didn't like it. Apologies if that was an error on my part.

Giblet

When I ran the karting society it had the most members, nearly 300 if I remember correctly, we got barely anything from the scc though

ANXIOUS

Giblet wrote:

When I ran the karting society it had the most members, nearly 300 if I remember correctly, we got barely anything from the scc though

I think it would be hard to justify giving a club like that loads of money so they can go go-carting for free.

Oirthir

ANXIOUS wrote:

I think it would be hard to justify giving a club like that loads of money so they can go go-carting for free.

As opposed to giving the GAA team loads of money to go play the sport they love for free.

( I realise it's not that fair a comparison, but non-GAA players may look at it that way, after all, small sports only get big through good funding )

Motley Crue

Giblet wrote:

When I ran the karting society it had the most members, nearly 300 if I remember correctly, we got barely anything from the scc though

But you can hardly say that more then a handful of your members were committed to karting as a professional pastime and were introduced in competing in Mondella and Nationwide Championships etc

Whereas the GAA won the school awards, i.e. they were handed money

Oirthir

Motley Crue wrote:

But you can hardly say that more then a handful of your members were committed to karting as a professional pastime and were introduced in competing in Mondella and Nationwide Championships etc

Whereas the GAA won the school awards, i.e. they were handed money

You can hardly say ANY of the GAA club were committed to GAA being a professional pastime, it being an amateur sport. (I know I know, nit picking)

Lemming

Giblet wrote:

When I ran the karting society it had the most members, nearly 300 if I remember correctly, we got barely anything from the scc though

Indeed, when I sat on the compsoc (pre-netsoc) society committee, we had to f-i-g-h-t to get even a penny of funding, despite the fact that at the time we were far and away the largest society in the college, spanning multiple departments and including students AND staff.

The sports socs had money thrown at them for piss-ups ffs. We couldn't even get funding for what equipment we needed, much less getting all our members p*ssed on a friday night.

So whinging about "lack" of sports facilities tend to ring hollow in my eyes when I witnessed all the sheer waste that the sports socs indulged in, off their own accord.


But to get back to the OPs original post, college (any college) is what you make it. You could, for example, find Trinity or UCD to be utterly, utterly boring and sh*te because you don't apply yourself. The point is, it's up to you to take from it what you put in.

warrenaldo

i found IT Tallaght great - did my 4 year degree there and have now got a good job from it.
Only reason i went to tallaght was that it was so close - i could have went to DIT but to go on bus for 1hr - 1hr and half in morning and then in the evening is not as appealing as 25min walk to college.

Social life in tallaght was great. I think it depends on the person/class.
Some classes went out lots together others not so much.

You dont have a on site campus - which i thinks kills a lot of the fun. But compared to the other ITs - Blanch, DIT - from what i hear they were all wuite similar.

ANXIOUS

Lemming wrote:

The sports socs had money thrown at them for piss-ups ffs. We couldn't even get funding for what equipment we needed, much less getting all our members p*ssed on a friday night.

So whinging about "lack" of sports facilities tend to ring hollow in my eyes when I witnessed all the sheer waste that the sports socs indulged in, off their own accord.
.

Im not talking about the money that is given for the day today running of the society,ifeel that the collegeare very generous. My "whinging" is about the lack of capital investment for sports facilities.

Tom Dunne

ANXIOUS wrote:

My "whinging" is about the lack of capital investment for sports facilities.

Isn't there a plan for sports facilities in the development plan? Not that it is much use to students now, or in the next couple of years.

ANXIOUS

tom dunne wrote:

Isn't there a plan for sports facilities in the development plan? Not that it is much use to students now, or in the next couple of years.

Yes, there are some in the "plan" but i don't think that there is any mention of a gaa pitch in them. Must have a look at them. Do you know where they are ?

Tom Dunne

According to this, there's a copy available in the library.

I did see a hardcopy floating around some time last year.

ANXIOUS

Im on my when in now ill ask for it, hey'll probally hve a heart attack and ot know what to do

Oirthir

Here as well, but they look well behind schedule!

Motley Crue

Oirthir wrote:

You can hardly say ANY of the GAA club were committed to GAA being a professional pastime, it being an amateur sport. (I know I know, nit picking)

Theres more chance of them being involved at Inter County or County level in the GAA society then there is of them being in the Karting Society. Karting takes serious resource and money, im not saying professional involvement cant be done, but its a lot harder then playing for a GAA team. And I said by my previous statement, GAA team wins award for school and brings recognition, therefore getting their picture in local paper/front of yearbook etc and being given money because theyre helping the school attract potenial students and look good

Lemming

Motley Crue wrote:

Theres more chance of them being involved at Inter County or County level in the GAA society then there is of them being in the Karting Society.

That is ... a complete b*llocks ... of an argument. Compare apples with apples, not oranges, if you're going to take that line of argument. You can't even remotely compare the socs like that.

Karting takes serious resource and money, im not saying professional involvement cant be done, but its a lot harder then playing for a GAA team.

For a start, attempting to argue karting (I'm not being defensive of karting itself) along professional lines, whilst not doing the same with an amateur sport is disingenious and not a little dishonest and misleading. A more correct and accurate "fact" to make would be that you have a better chance of going professional from karting than you do going professional in GAA.

As an aside, how many GAA-soc players do you know who play on senior teams (or appear on their way to play on senior teams)?

One final point to note. I had a friend at undergraduate level in IT-Tallaght who played at inter-county level. My father has all-ireland medals at inter-county level, I had a teacher who played at inter-county level. The brother of another girl in my course at undergraduate level had a brother who was a very well known Dublin player. I'm sure that each and every one of them would disagree about GAA not taking as considerable an amount of "resources and money" as karting in terms of equipment, constant training regimes, and the travel often required to meet those regimes. In short, arguing that your activity is more important than the next guy's simply because of what you consider the benefits to be is biased and short-sighted. College is not there to provide you with sports facilities. College is there to provide you, along with everyone else, with an education (academically and non-academically) in whatever manner you choose to pursue. That doesn't give you the right to say that what you pursue outside of your academic pursuits is more important than another persons and therefore you should be given more.

And I said by my previous statement, GAA team wins award for school and brings recognition, therefore getting their picture in local paper/front of yearbook etc and being given money because theyre helping the school attract potenial students and look good

"given money". Excuse me whilst I snort at that remark. As I already pointed out, the sports socs were handed money hand-over-fist unquestioningly, and most of it got p*ssed up against a wall. Meanwhile the rest of us had to argue for every. single. penny. of funding that we asked for, and then account for every. single. penny. at the end of the fiscal year. Unlike the aforementioned sports socs. So once again, you'll have to forgive me whilst I consider your argument to be false, misleading, and completely whinging claptrap.

Oirthir

I was about to throw in my 2c, but I think lemming covered it.

ANXIOUS

Lemming wrote:

As an aside, how many GAA-soc players do you know who play on senior teams (or appear on their way to play on senior teams)?
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Are you serious have you any knowledge about the gaa teams in the college there are lads off it played for dublin seniors. The footballers play in the highest league and highest cup. We are ahead of some unversitys. And as im sure your well aware your not allowed spend the money on drink.

I completly agree with the other poster with the wat he feels about handing for instance a karting time x amount of euro so that they can go karting twice a week it doesnt eem practicle to me.

Look in tomorrows papers and id say it tallaght gaa will be in every single one of hem

Lemming

ANXIOUS wrote:

Are you serious have you any knowledge about the gaa teams in the college there are lads off it played for dublin seniors. The footballers play in the highest league and highest cup. We are ahead of some unversitys.

First of all, I think you'll find that all of the people you've just collectively mentioned were probably already on the way to senior level before they so much as went near the college GAA-soc. The guy I was in college with never played for the soc because he was kept well busy training outside of collge.

Put another way, how many players at serious competitive level (ie. inter-county) play exclusively for the GAA-soc and have only managed to play at that level because of joining the GAA-soc? I'd hazard a guess at utterly, utterly zero.

Yes it's a good thing to have around, and I'm not arguing against sports socs. I'm just pointing out that labelling a college crap and whinging about the perceived lack of your sports facilities is an idotic stance to take.

And as im sure your well aware your not allowed spend the money on drink.

Eeee heh. heh. heh. That's never stopped them before ....... and I saw plenty of funds being p*ssed up against a wall. Not to mention the blind eye that was turned by the college authorities simply because it was the sports socs.

I completly agree with the other poster with the wat he feels about handing for instance a karting time x amount of euro so that they can go karting twice a week it doesnt eem practicle to me.

And I notice that you completely missed the point about what the concept of a college provides you with ....

Motley Crue

Lemming wrote:

Yes it's a good thing to have around, and I'm not arguing against sports socs. I'm just pointing out that labelling a college crap and whinging about the perceived lack of your sports facilities is an idotic stance to take.....

I think you may have missed what I was saying. What I was trying to explain is that Karting takes a lot more funds then GAA to be involved in, yet GAA is slightly (financially) easier to become involved in then Karting on a professional level.

I was arguing that giving more money to Karting then GAA was wrong because the GAA society bring recognition to the school. I think that a GAA society is a wonderful oppurunity for young people to enagage in our national pastime

http://www.ittdublin.ie/current/studentservicesfacilities/sportsrecreation/clubssocieties/atozofclubsandsocieties/gaaclub/ (GAA Club link)

A Quote About the Hurling Society, linked in under GAA Club
The Club have many Intercounty players

http://www.ittdublin.ie/current/studentservicesfacilities/sportsrecreation/clubssocieties/atozofclubsandsocieties/karting/ (Karting Link)

Quote About Karting Society
This is one of the fastest growing clubs in the college. The Karting club have regular local races and at least two weekend trips away each semester around Ireland. We have had hundreds of members over the years and we’ve had some success at Intervarsity level too getting some podium places and good Team placings. We compete in the Student League and Championship throughout the year and the Teams are picked from the club member rankings from the domestic events

The Karting societys website (http://www.ittkarting.com/) is not used. Im a bit puzzled by that. It told me it was the official website here http://www.gokart2000.com/directory/view-listing-256.html

Oirthir

First of all, and I hate to be nitpicking again, but it's wrecking my head and you've said it more than once Motley Crue - IT Tallaght is a college not a school.

Anyway, so what you're essentially implying is that a club/soc should get more money the more recognition it brings to the college? I think we'll argue in circles here, cause i'm sensing we have completely different views on what clubs/socs should be doing.

You see, I always figured that whilst of course we should support the "Big three" (soccer/gaa/rugby). More time and effort should be spent nuturing the more "niche" activities that students otherwise wouldn't have access to and certainly won't get in the papers.

I mean, soccer/rugby/gaa clubs are a dime a dozen all over the country, but in college you should be able to try new things. Some sports people want to try are just not financially viable to try for some students and the college should be helping them to broaden their horizons.

Just looking at some of the clubs/socs trinity have - they have a sodding SCUBA Diving club ffs. That's an expensive old sport to get into. UCD are the same. A Dodgeball club (okay, not expensive, but still a random sport).

I'm not saying the big sports shouldn't get some cash, but they should get it on an equal footing to the rest of the clubs/socs.

On ANXIOUS's point, yes, they should have built a GAA pitch, but maybe they should have built a creche first. Or a student centre. Or a million other things.

McSandwich

Oirthir wrote:

I argued against the implementation of a parking disc system in the college that would have provided only staff with guaranteed parking discs, then have students fight over the remaining spaces.

Jaysus, when I was a student in Tallaght you could've counted the students who drove in on one hand!! It was cycle, bus, or walk for the rest of us [old codger mode on a car was something to look forward to when we passed all our exams and got real jobs! [old codger mode off]

Seriously though, is giving staff parking discs such a bad idea? I mean if a lecturer (who is running late) can't get a space then 50 or more students miss out on a class or worse still get out of bed early for nothing... If a student can't find a space then at least he/ she can get the notes from one of the others.

Zillah

McSandwich wrote:

Seriously though, is giving staff parking discs such a bad idea? I mean if a lecturer (who is running late) can't get a space then 50 or more students miss out on a class or worse still get out of bed early for nothing... If a student can't find a space then at least he/ she can get the notes from one of the others.

I would seriously doubt the mentality of anyone who thought giving staff parking priority was a bad idea.

Oirthir

Zillah wrote:

I would seriously doubt the mentality of anyone who thought giving staff parking priority was a bad idea.

Well, my clearly incorrect mentality was that lecturers could afford to pay for parking elsewhere in Tallaght, whereas students couldn't.

As I said, it's akin to Dundrum town centre blocking off a rake of car spaces for Tesco staff and leaving paying customers to park up the road.

ANXIOUS

Oirthir wrote:

Well, my clearly incorrect mentality was that lecturers could afford to pay for parking elsewhere in Tallaght, whereas students couldn't.

As I said, it's akin to Dundrum town centre blocking off a rake of car spaces for Tesco staff and leaving paying customers to park up the road.

You cant expect people to pay for parking in a place that they work, im sure if your idea was ever implemented it'd take the lectures all of five seconds to get on the phone to the labour court :rolleyes:

Oirthir

ANXIOUS wrote:

You cant expect people to pay for parking in a place that they work, im sure if your idea was ever implemented it'd take the lectures all of five seconds to get on the phone to the labour court :rolleyes:

Are you serious? Plenty of places expect their employees to pay for parking?

For one, the entire Dundrum Town Centre. In Trinity staff aren't entitled to a parking space. UCD are about to bring in paid parking. DKIT have just brought it in. Pretty much the entire city centre office's don't provide free parking. I could go on, but I think i've made the point.

ANXIOUS

Oirthir wrote:

Are you serious? Plenty of places expect their employees to pay for parking?

For one, the entire Dundrum Town Centre. In Trinity staff aren't entitled to a parking space. UCD are about to bring in paid parking. DKIT have just brought it in. Pretty much the entire city centre office's don't provide free parking. I could go on, but I think i've made the point.

Im just saying that i worked in a place this summer that had this situation it was also public sector, and they went to the labour court and won on grounds that something that was always free cant just be changed. However the said company could charge new employes.

Oirthir

ANXIOUS wrote:

Im just saying that i worked in a place this summer that had this situation it was also public sector, and they went to the labour court and won on grounds that something that was always free cant just be changed. However the said company could charge new employes.

I see what you mean, but Institute staff aren't Public Sector workers in the traditional sense, as they aren't paid by the government directly.

Besides, it'd be nice for the lecturers to make a sacrifice to the students for a change. I mean seriously, they have a Union agreement that stopped the early January exams from moving to late January or December. And don't tell me everyone enjoys having exams in the first week or so of January.

Leon11

wait so your saying the reason we can't have exams in Dec or late Jan is because the lecturers have a union agreement preventing this?? We were led to believe the reason was because of the lack of facilities required, (national basketball championships take place late Jan and there's events in dec too)

Tom Dunne

Leon11 wrote:

wait so your saying the reason we can't have exams in Dec or late Jan is because the lecturers have a union agreement preventing this?? We were led to believe the reason was because of the lack of facilities required, (national basketball championships take place late Jan and there's events in dec too)

This is going completely off topic, but just to clarify - the exams in January is nothing to do with the unions, it's completely to do with the logistics of getting the semester finished in time to allow the exams to commence in December.

If the exams were to start this year, for example, on the 10th of December, the previous week would be a revision week. So that's all of November, October and September for a 12 week semester. Not including the week off in November.

Who wants to start college on the 1st of September?

That's not even beginning to think about repeats from the previous year and then there's the minor factor of the CAO offers in mid-August.

Get the picture?

Oirthir

Leon11 wrote:

wait so your saying the reason we can't have exams in Dec or late Jan is because the lecturers have a union agreement preventing this?? We were led to believe the reason was because of the lack of facilities required, (national basketball championships take place late Jan and there's events in dec too)

Well, Tom Dunne is half right.

When I sat on Academic Council ( the committee that decides on all things education in the college), we pushed for either pre-Xmas exams or late Jan exams eg, last week of jan and we were told that it wouldn't be possible because the lecturers would have to work into June and that because of a Nationally negotiated agreement, the lecturers wouldn't mark papers that late in the year. (The late xmas exams would have a knock-on to the summer exams)

Oirthir

Oirthir wrote:

Well, Tom Dunne is half right.

When I sat on Academic Council ( the committee that decides on all things education in the college), we pushed for either pre-Xmas exams or late Jan exams eg, last week of jan and we were told that it wouldn't be possible because the lecturers would have to work into June and that because of a Nationally negotiated agreement, the lecturers wouldn't mark papers that late in the year. (The late xmas exams would have a knock-on to the summer exams)

Was just bored in a lab and doubled check this.

Academic Council 19th May 2005 wrote:

The Director reported that he had looked at the timetable and could alter the timetable to start the examinations on Thursday January 5th . Eoin Gorman raised the issue of moving the examinations to before the Christmas. Tim Creedon stated that the whole issue would be looked at for Autumn 2007. There were constraints with delivery modes of 12 weeks and national agreements

McSandwich

Oirthir wrote:

Was just bored in a lab and doubled check this.

Yes, January exams were always painful! I never liked semesterisation, maybe you should campaign for its abolition. Then there would only be summer exams to deal with and you could enjoy a worry free Christmas

As a matter of interest, would the majority of students agree to shorter Summer holidays so that they could sit exams in early December?

On the issue of parking - in DCU everyone has the option of paying an annual fee for an almost guaranteed space, seems like a good idea. Free parking is also available on a first come basis. It doesn't make sense to expect staff to park outside their place of work if parking facilities are available.

Oirthir

McSandwich wrote:

As a matter of interest, would the majority of students agree to shorter Summer holidays so that they could sit exams in early December?

Well, it was something the class reps were always at us about, so we were just exploring the options to give them.

McSandwich wrote:

It doesn't make sense to expect staff to park outside their place of work if parking facilities are available.

But I'll say it again, why does it make sense to expect students to park outside the college? We do pay to go there already after all!

McSandwich

Oirthir wrote:

But I'll say it again, why does it make sense to expect students to park outside the college? We do pay to go there already after all!

I wouldn't expect anyone who uses the college to park outside. That wasn't my point.

As for payment - Don't tell me students that have no money, or wouldn't if they sold their cars!
I paid for parking in Dundrum last weekend - as well as paying for cinema tickets :eek: , maybe I should've started a Fr. Ted style 'Down with this sort of thing (careful now)' protest!

BTW, does anyone (staff or students) cycle or get the bus/ luas to ITT??

Back to my original point:

Say a lecturer, running late because of traffic, arrives in the car park at 8.50 in the morning only to find that it's full (5 minutes). He/she then has find the nearest public car park find a space (an optimistic 15 minutes inc. traffic) and walk back to the college (10 minutes - assuming it's not too far away).

Result 1: The lecturer arrive at his/her 9am class 20 minutes late to find that the students have left.

Result 2: 50 students miss the class and waste a lot of time getting to the college for 9.

Maybe the solution is a bigger car park - by the sounds of it a multistorey big enough to shadow the college might just about do :rolleyes:

Oirthir

McSandwich wrote:

BTW, does anyone (staff or students) cycle or get the bus/ luas to ITT??

Ah yeah, plenty, but there's still a rake more cars than spaces.

McSandwich wrote:

Say a lecturer, running late |SNIP| lot of time getting to the college for 9.

Yeah, I agree it's not an ideal situation, but there's a lot of college staff who don't lecture and the original proposal didn't make the distinction.

Course, now that the college have built the "Synergy Centre" they've found it wise to block off ~15 spaces for people who have nothing to do with the college in terms of a contribution to college life..

McSandwich wrote:

Maybe the solution is a bigger car park - by the sounds of it a multistorey big enough to shadow the college might just about do :rolleyes:

Heh, it can join the queue of buildings.....

comer_97

Lecturers work until the 1st of July. Well we did when I worked there. So they point about working into june is not true.

As for staff over student parking. It is the chicken and the egg scenario. Without lecturers you have no college, without students you have no college.

And I know many a lecturer who get the bus in!

It's a good college but it is up to you to make the most of it. (I was a student there too!)