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Let's Sunset The Jargon

  • 30-01-2007 1:35pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    'Let's Sunset The Jargon'


    Office workers who use phrases such as "blue sky thinking" and "singing from the same hymn sheet" are being urged to drop the jargon.

    A survey of 1,600 staff revealed the best and worst phrases as well as the "downright ugly" which are guaranteed to be a huge turn-off for colleagues.

    The essential buzzwords for this year include "thought grenade", meaning an explosive good idea, and "let's sunset that", meaning a bad idea will never see the light of day, said recruitment firm Office Angels.

    Worst phrases included "thinking outside the box" and "park that thought" as well as the now hated blue sky thinking.

    Staff also came up with the ugliest phrases.

    They include "getting down with the kids", which means trying to interact with junior staff, "open up your kimono", which translates as putting your cards on the table, and "let's raise the anchor and let this one drift", which means forgetting about a bad idea.

    "Jargon is an inevitable part of office life and it's interesting to see it evolve as new cultural influences and technological influences redefine how we speak," said Office Angels' David Clubb.

    "However, while trendy jargon may be used as a shortcut, clear, simple communication will never go out of fashion.

    "My advice, if in doubt, drop the jargon and simply say what you mean."

    Whats the worst business buzz word or phrase you've heard?

    I think "pro-active" is used far too often, gets on my tits!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭NextSteps


    Cascading and grandfathering. Very irritating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    Team.
    I am not a "team".
    I am here for the money.
    Stop it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭iremex


    wasnt andrew maxwell on the panel last nite coming up with that tripe?

    a co-worker uses "they dont know us from a bar of soap".

    irk words for me are
    1. meeting setups = cold calling
    2. best of breed
    3. time management
    4. cycles, processes, deployments, consolidate.


    admittingly there would be some issues with trying to work without the above.

    worst is "singing from the same hymn sheet". hear it 2-3 times a week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    "Going forward..."

    What other direction can it go?

    "Joined up thinking..."


    Zzzzzzzzzzz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭c - 13


    Its all about the synergy at the end of the day


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭manonthemoon


    Useless c***

    As in "You are a useless ****"

    I dont like that one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    Brain Storming.

    Fcuk off!

    Oh and as mentioned already.. Consolidate.

    Consolidate me arse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I work in IT, where I'm fairly sure we get the worst ones because companies can make up any old phrases to describe fairly standard things;
    "Solution Landscape"
    "Business Process Procedure"
    As well as a raft of abbreviations, TCO, SMI, ICI, ITIS etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


    or as someone said to me recently

    'you have to be proactive man not reactive'

    to which I replied

    isn't proactive man a comic book hero?

    to which he replied

    man you're just not playing for the same team

    to which i replied

    but I'm in game

    to which he replied

    yeah but not the bigger picture...you gotta get in the bigger

    t.w.i.r

    I'm missing the bigger picture?

    t.w.he.r

    yeah you're not delivering the good...and you keep dropping the ball

    t.w.i.r

    are we still talking about work

    t.w.he.r

    don't f**k with payroll we're not going to bankroll your downsizable ass much longer

    t.wi.r

    i want to deliver the goods..i'll even do the dirty laundry...just stop blowing hot and cold with me man...c'mon man even dead cats bounce...I don't wanna lose this thing at the elventh hour, just give me the nod..i can hack it, i'll be just like i was in my heyday...just keep me in the loop here...

    t.whe.replied

    kudos on the balls of steel..hope you aprreciate the lay of ther land
    I'm not just some Monday morning quarterback here I'm giving you this stuff straight up, no holes barred..you've gotta start thinking outside the box from now on, pay the piper and it'll all be gravy ok?
    now go get them...go deliver those newspapers!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,945 ✭✭✭trout


    the most popular ones in my place currently are ...

    lets pluck the low hanging fruit (easily achievable goals)

    make sure we are all on message (spouting the party line)

    and my particular favourite (not!) ... are all our ducks in a row ? (are we of one mind)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭irlirishkev


    "Going Forward" as a previous poster noted..

    What I really hate is when people try to be all professional, and then send you an email with a sentence that contains..

    "Please revert back to me when completed"...

    WTF???? Buy a dictionary dumbass!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    apparently "linking in" is a done thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    Hate the jargon? Play Bullsh1t Bingo!

    http://www.bull****bingo.net/cards/bull****/

    (you need to edit the URL, in case thats not obvious)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    "Brain dump" and "leverage" are used non-stop where I work. It also annoys me that IT products are called "solutions", as if not having the product is a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    talking about anything "going forward" really gets on my nerves... yes, thank you for clarifying that for me, i thought that we were moving backwards through time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Feedback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭gucci


    "you can be really "creative" on this one show us some "wow" and "flare", oh by the way it needs to be made from X material, machined on this machine, only have X number of working surfaces and minimilise materials where possible for cost. "

    my reply:"shall me just sketch it on a cigarette box while were at it?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭kizzyr


    There are so many to chose from:
    Going forward I hate with a passion, it really makes me mad.
    Being proactive again hate hate hate it.
    Lets cut the dead wood.
    No "i" in team / being a team player/ thinking of the team/ seeing the big picture.
    Lets push the envelope on this one.
    Then there are the emails where you are supposed to read and understand something like this: " Kizzyr: ref our telecon of last a/noon please action below and revert back on same". THAT is the worst.
    I hate management speak, I think because I used to work with a real life David Brent and Finchy who also peppered their conversations with " bear with me" and " so to speak" and "as it were". Now I cringe when I hear those phrases and they have crept into everyday speak, even Ray D'Arcy was at it on the radio this morning. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Hey.. quit stovepiping on this process,step back into the loop and lets look for a green field solution.The bad guys are suiting up and have a game plan to steam roll our D.We need some joined up thinking to roll out this product and the synergy should push us over the gain line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    cornbb wrote:
    Hate the jargon? Play Bullsh1t Bingo!

    http://www.bull****bingo.net/cards/bull****/

    (you need to edit the URL, in case thats not obvious)

    Roffle!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    I can hear one of the managers on the phone from where I'm sitting and he's just used the words "checkpointed", "going forward", "get this locked down" and "choke point" in the space of about a minute. What a dickhead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    'Push the envelope'. Oh shaddaap!:mad:


    Be popular* around the office



    *when I say popular, I mean get a hiding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Glowing


    kizzyr wrote:
    Going forward

    Aaaaaaarrrrgggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    agamemnon wrote:
    I can hear one of the managers on the phone from where I'm sitting and he's just used the words "checkpointed", "going forward", "get this locked down" and "choke point" in the space of about a minute. What a dickhead.


    How do people in an office environment listen to this crap day in day out without laughing out loud?

    Im laughing now and I didnt even hear it first hand :D



    Edit; W0ot! 1500 posts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Take a "belt & braces approach" to get "between the soup & the nuts".


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    we don't do jargon in postgrad


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Lets "think outside the box"
    I would gladly do time for murdering any person making the above comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭joe_chicken


    Turning nouns into verbs is fùcking annoying!

    "I like what you're saying, but how can we monetize that thought?"

    Or adding random vowels onto the end of words to make them sound smarter:

    "We really need some dynamification of our thoughtologies!"

    Fùck off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    The "please revert" people piss me right off. Revert? What? Do you mean reply or follow up or something? ffs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Worked with a guy who kept reverting to French in Delboy style.

    "So will you liase with Steve on that one?"
    No, but I'll talk to him if you want

    "Is that au fait with everyone?"
    Everything except the au fait bit...

    "So shall we rondez back here apres two?"
    What you do in your spare time....

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    'Self starter'

    What the fcuk is a self starter then??

    Apparently to work in sales, you need to be a self starter. Holy God :mad:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Ikky Poo2 wrote:
    "Is that au fait with everyone?"
    Everything except the au fait bit...
    Au fait is commonly used in English too...
    Guess he just bested you there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    Ikky Poo2 wrote:
    Worked with a guy who kept reverting to French in Delboy style.

    "So will you liase with Steve on that one?"
    No, but I'll talk to him if you want

    "Is that au fait with everyone?"
    Everything except the au fait bit...

    "So shall we rondez back here apres two?"
    What you do in your spare time....

    Lmao

    You're winding us up surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Au fait is commonly used in English too...
    Guess he just bested you there.

    Not in every fourth sentence, it isn't

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭dSTAR


    Win-Win situation

    What a load of twaddle. Someone always loses.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    I did a bad thing.

    My boss uses all of these, all the time, every day, several times a day, non stop.

    It drives me mad. So last week, I was making a suggestion, and just for the purpose of taking the piss out of him, said

    'Let's run this up the flagpole and see if the cat licks it'


    I've now heard him say it eight times since. I could shoot myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    Silverfish wrote:


    I've now heard him say it eight times since. I could shoot myself.

    Ah yes but do you have the bandwidth to do this?

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Growth strategy
    focused
    in it together

    and any sentence beginning with "Lets...":mad: How about being f****n honest and say "I'm your boss and i expect you to waste your time and energy with my latest badly thought out idea"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭imeatingchips


    going forward
    going forward
    going forward
    going forward
    going forward
    going forward
    going forward
    going forward
    going forward

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FFFFFF**** OFFFFFFF!!!!! going forward me hole


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭imeatingchips


    and a boards one that really does my head in is

    meh

    whoever says that should be clattered


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    meh...
    *ducks and runs*

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    and a boards one that really does my head in is

    meh

    whoever says that should be clattered
    I use that in real life.

    BRING IT OOOOOONNNNNN!!!!!111!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭dib


    Solutions. I hate solutions. I work for a large convenience store head office and I constantly hear them talking about "meal solutions". It's not a ****ing equation. I'm hungry, I eat. I don't need a log book and calculator every time I walk to the ****ing deli!! AAAAGH!!

    Going forward is also quite irksome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Some I have unfortunately been subjected to:

    "Let me me give you the top floor view here people."

    "paradigm shift"

    "the hero is just a sandwich."

    I have no idea what the second two even mean :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    "the hero is just a sandwich."

    :confused:


    You're joking surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I have no idea what the second two even mean :confused:

    You need to close the loop on that.



    And as for "Socialize" to mean "speak with" or "tell" - A project manager asked me recently if I had "socialized" certain things amongst the project team.

    To wit, I replied "What?! Do ya mean tell the lads? For fcuks sake - why didn't you just say that? Socialize my b0ll0cks!"


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    "the hero is just a sandwich."

    I have no idea what the second two even mean :confused:

    According to here, it's a "phrase used to emphasize the importance of being a team player. Often preceded or followed by there's no I in team."


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    "Bear with me".

    I never know if they're actually terrified in the presence of a grizzly and are trying to get me to summon help or they just plan on being unbearable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    Going forward we need to action this item.

    Please revert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Hill Billy wrote:
    You need to close the loop on that.



    And as for "Socialize" to mean "speak with" or "tell" - A project manager asked me recently if I had "socialized" certain things amongst the project team.

    To wit, I replied "What?! Do ya mean tell the lads? For fcuks sake - why didn't you just say that? Socialize my b0ll0cks!"
    For ****'s sake, Hillbilly! The man has just given you a crate-blanche (sorry, remembering my non-French ex-suerpvisor again) excuse to drag the lads down the pub and tell them over a pint!!!

    "Oh, sorry - when you said 'socialise with the lads', I thought you meant...."

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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