Chirrac and Iran

Frederico

Sesshoumaru wrote:

I don't recall seeing news reports lately of Americans setting off car bombs in Baghdad. Plenty of "Moslems" killing each other though.

Quite honestly the single most ironic line I have read in a long time.

Sesshoumaru.. be honest here.. do you think America should use force on Iran..?

purple'n'gold

Dick Cheney is a coward and a serial draft dodger; he deferred his enlistment 5 times to dodge going to Viet Nam, so never served. The gung ho American people accept him as their Vice President. Just goes to show how stupid they are. I’m not going to comment on Bush, no need to.

Tea drinker

purplengold wrote:

Dick Cheney is a coward and a serial draft dodger;

Purple, I think you should be very careful what you call Mr Cheney. He is no coward...:
http://www.freegamespot.net/index.php?params=frame/d3d3LmVsaXRlc2VhcmNoZXIuY29tL2dhbWVzL3ZpZGVvcy9hbmltYXRpb25zX2NoZW5leXNtYWxsLnN3Zg==/n//

I have grave reservations regarding the frequent propganda released by our great free and independant media.
I do have a certain amount of respect for UN. I know the weapons inspectors (even american) were roaring about the lack of WMD in Iraq pre war.
WHat is the UN stance here? how relevant is it if it's a long time since they inspected Iran?
Ahmedinajad certainly sounds irrational to my ears. No way should he or his regime be in control of nukes.
Nuclear power stations ... yes, as long as there are inspectors all over it. If it was for peaceful means why aren't the inspectors there?

wes

Tea drinker wrote:

If it was for peaceful means why aren't the inspectors there?

A macho pissing match....

Seriously thats what Middle East politics seems to be a lot of the time.

Tea drinker

interesting little watch:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3827866392656270502&q=iran

banaman

found this today, apparently first published in the LA Times. So at least not all the US media are as supine as they are portrayed over here.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0203-02.htm

Bush and his cronies want a war with Iran for three main reasons, in my opinion,

1) A powerful Iran is a counterpoint, alternative and threat to the US' main mates in the region namely the democratic but fascist state that is Israel and the religiously fascist state that is Saudi Arabia.

2) Iran can directly threaten the US oil interests in the region which it needs to continue its expansion of the US empire and the "dictatorship of global capitalism".

3) Bush needs something to shift the focus from his total F--k up in Iraq, the installation of government by drug cartel in Afghanistan(funny how the problems in Afghanistan are Pakistan's fault cos they can't control the border) and Israel's wanton murder of Palestinians and Lebanese.

And before anyone accuses me of being anti-American and/or anti-Semitic I'm not. I am perfectly capable of distinguishing between a people and the policies of their government unlike the rascists who quite happily conflate the two.

For an insight into my views on the present state of US government and its foreign policy read this http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=72&ItemID=12033
In the Middle East I read the usual press, plus Bob Fisk, Uri Avenry, articles like this one http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID=12022
websites like this one http://www.btselem.org/English/index.asp.

I try wherever possible to look for Israeli/Jewish critiques of the Middle East situation particularly those which try to give alternatives to the policies that have, over the last 40 years brought only more bloodshed, insecurity and terror not only to Jews and Palestinians but also to us all.

There are many critics of the current policies and they all begin from a broadly similar question "If the policies of the past 40 years have been so successful then the world will be a safer place for Jews now than it was. Is this true?"

Decide for yourself.