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Recommend me a FAST Automatic Diesel Estate that isn't....

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  • 17-02-2007 3:28am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 22


    .... German!

    OK, I need to buy an Estate that has plenty of power, is diesel and automatic.... Only problem is I don't like German cars.
    Now I know at the end of the day I'm going to have to buy a Merc, BMW or Audi to get what I want but truth be told I'd much prefer a Toyota, Peugeot or Hyundai or whatever (personal preference for reliability, etc.).
    I don't care what the car looks like and 3L+ tax & Insurance is no problem (Even though it'll be taxed & insured in ROI). Reliability/maintenance costs is the major issue as I will be running this car well over 60k per year and mostly on the continent. I need something with at least 35mpg and lots of poke and plenty of comfort!
    I have a very nice medal waiting here for anyone who can come up with a fast & economical diesel estate (Must be available in automatic) that wasn't built in Germany ;)
    Oh yea - Just to make it even more difficult.... Budget is 18k MAX!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 lugnut


    .... German!

    OK, I need to buy an Estate that has plenty of power, is diesel and automatic.... Only problem is I don't like German cars.
    Now I know at the end of the day I'm going to have to buy a Merc, BMW or Audi to get what I want but truth be told I'd much prefer a Toyota, Peugeot or Hyundai or whatever (personal preference for reliability, etc.).
    I don't care what the car looks like and 3L+ tax & Insurance is no problem (Even though it'll be taxed & insured in ROI). Reliability/maintenance costs is the major issue as I will be running this car well over 60k per year and mostly on the continent. I need something with at least 35mpg and lots of poke and plenty of comfort!
    I have a very nice medal waiting here for anyone who can come up with a fast & economical diesel estate (Must be available in automatic) that wasn't built in Germany ;)
    Oh yea - Just to make it even more difficult.... Budget is 18k MAX!


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    A South-African assembled BMW 330d auto touring?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭overdriver


    Avensis Verso. My mate has one, and it ticks all the boxes you supplied.

    Simple.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭fletch




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭gyppo


    Mondeo tdci auto


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,398 ✭✭✭fletch


    gyppo wrote:
    Mondeo tdci auto
    Isn't there an ST TDCI over in the UK with 170bhp?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    You're not asking for much! You could try for a Volvo V70 2.5

    http://www.volvoestates.co.uk/stock13.htm

    but for 18k you'll be lucky.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Mondeo 2.0 TD

    Renault Laguna 2.2 D

    Saab 9-5 2.2 D

    and the Volvo seem to be your only options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Mailman


    Chipped late model Rover 75 estate Cdti
    easily over 150BHP when chipped. 45mpg and in your price range.
    Reliable BMW 320d engine and not made in Germany.
    Will cruise at 110MPH on the autobahn all day long.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,711 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    overdriver wrote:
    Avensis Verso. My mate has one, and it ticks all the boxes you supplied.

    Simple.

    Not fast at all. Hardly even quick.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    Was going to say Subaru Legacy, but it's Petrol. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Citroen C5 2.2 HDI ...only you won't get that in Ireland

    link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    WTF? This thread has lost half its posts!

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65




  • Registered Users Posts: 670 ✭✭✭C.D.


    Mike, there are 2 threads with the same name.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    I was going to suggest that Mike merge the threads. Then I remembered those days are behind him. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    Alfa 156 touring 2.4 jtd. 200bhp!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 lugnut


    mike65 wrote:

    Sorry - Must have hit the submit button twice.... Please post in other thread instead of here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    Biro wrote:
    Alfa 156 touring 2.4 jtd. 200bhp!

    Do they come in autos?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 lugnut


    C.D. wrote:
    Mike, there are 2 threads with the same name.

    Apologies for that - must have hit the submit button twice :o

    Some great suggestions so far, thank you!
    I should have stressed that I'm not looking for a new or newish car - being honest it wouldn't bother me if it was 03 or 93.
    I like the thought of the Alfa as I have long been a fan of the JTD but I wonder would it put up with the high miles?
    Power is important with this car - definitely want at least 200bhp plus lots of torque. I would sooner compromise on the economy before power.
    Basically I want a Merc E320 that isn't a Merc ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    200+ bhp?
    In a diesel ?

    Not available ...not as a FAST 200 bhp diesel, anyway

    unless you find a 3 litre beemer acceptable (and within your budget)

    Might I inquire what exactly your plans and requirements are?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    here's another alternative:
    9dad_27.JPG

    big stonking V8, 260 bhp with a gas conversion
    cheaper than diesel and widely available on the continent

    not really fast though :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    Man if ye want a non german car for reliability, why you even considering the Alfa!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 lugnut


    enda1 wrote:
    Man if ye want a non german car for reliability, why you even considering the Alfa!!

    I'm not considering an Alfa ;)
    @ Peasant - I could see myself in something like that American Jeep, very nice! What is it?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,869 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    No German cars, but you'd take a Peugeot for reliability? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    lugnut wrote:
    @ Peasant - I could see myself in something like that American Jeep, very nice! What is it?

    'ere you go, Sorr !


  • Registered Users Posts: 65,395 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    ballooba wrote:
    I was going to suggest that Mike merge the threads

    Duly merged the two threads :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭TJJP


    JAGUAR X-TYPE 2.2 DSE - but you'll hardly get one for the money. An '04 from UK or NI with a good spec is 12k sterling and allow 7k euro for VRT.... And of course its not german or is it.... You might get lucky, but to be honest you should probably bite the bulllet and buy an e39 5 estate. New BMW 5 means the old 5 is very good value at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Toyota recently bought a chunk of these boys, so there's a vote of confidence

    Trooper Bighorn Executive 3.1 Diesel Auto


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Pajero

    or one of these, the uncle has a 07 and they're NOT SLOW by any stretch of the imagination, eats the miles, or kms as they are these days

    Landcruiser 100 (Amazon in the UK)

    Now I really must go if I'm to get to my 9am lecture:D :D:D:D:D:D


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