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Serious thread, date rape pills.

  • 26-02-2007 3:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭


    recieved this in a work email and taught i would spread the word as quickly as possible. sorry for the layout. I wasnt sure where to post this so i tput it where i taught it would be seen most. read on :

    > > > >This is true and serious ......

    > > > >A woman at a night-club on Saturday night was taken by 5 men who,
    > > > >according to hospital and police reports, gang raped her before
    dumping
    > > > >her.
    > > > >
    > > > >Unable to remember the events of the evening, tests later
    confirmed
    the
    > > > >repeat rapes and along with traces of Rohypnol in her blood, was
    > > > >Progesterex, which is essentially a small sterilization pill.
    > > > >
    > > > >The drug is now being used by rapists at parties to rape AND
    sterilize
    > > > >their victims.. Progesterex is available to vets to sterilise
    large
    > > > >animals.
    > > > >Rumour has it that Progesterex is being used together with
    Rohypnol,
    > the
    > > > >date rape drug. As with Rohypnol, all they have to do is drop it
    into
    > > > >the girl's drink.
    > > > >
    > > > >The girl can't remember a thing the next morning, of all that had
    taken
    > > > >place the night before. Progesterex, which dissolves in drinks
    just
    as
    > > > >easily, is such that the victim doesn't conceive from the rape
    and
    the
    > > > >rapist needn't worry about having a paternity test identifying
    him
    > > > >months later. The drug's effects ARE NOT TEMPORARY- They are
    PERMANENT!
    > > > >
    > > > >Progesterex was designed to sterilise horses. Any female who
    takes it
    > > > >WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CONCEIVE. They can get this drug from
    anyone
    who
    > > > >is in vet school. It's that easy, and Progesterex is about to
    break
    out
    > > > >big everywhere. Believe it or not, there are even sites on the
    Internet
    > > > >telling people how use it. Please COPY this to everyone you know,
    > > > >especially girls.
    > > > >
    > > > >Be careful when you're out and don't leave your drink unattended.
    > Please
    > > > >make the effort to PASS this on to all you know...
    > > > >Guys, please inform all your female friends and relatives. This
    has
    now
    > > > >been reported to have been used on 360 women around London.
    > > > >
    > > > >Girls keep your drinks safe at all times and blokes look after
    the
    > girls
    > > > >you are with.
    > > > >
    > > > >Jason Smart
    > > > >Drug Services Manager


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Its a well known hoax E-Mail....caused quite a lot of panic among women when it first appeared...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    >>>>Send this to fifteen of your closest friends in the next 15 minutes
    >>>If youdo not you will
    >>>>>have 15 years bad luck

    >>>>DO NOT IGNORE very seriovs indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    I ****ing hate rapists. Truly do. Pathetic human beings altogether. Sadly it's not just Roofies that people need to watch out for, but also simple things like GBL and GHB which are found in cleaning products will knock you out pretty quickly as well.

    Remembers folks, scumbags are everywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Another one born every minute...............

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blprogesterex.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,182 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Hoax or not: better to put the fear into 'em. As a barmen I am occassionaly disgusted with the rate that some boyfriends will try to funnel drink down their date's throat. Just as bad as any drug.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    I wish idiots would stop circulating this kind of crap around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    This is a vrey seris eMail, if you fwd thz to 78 of your friendz, bill gates will know and sell his left nut on ebay and donate d omney to jessica so she can have a third breast on her 4head removed. Kthx!

    Seriously, do people still fall for this crap?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D:D

    Honest to jaysus, issues of public safety do NOT get communicated by Bebo chain mail. I remember a DJ on 2FM read out some similiar warning. tbh for retardism of that level he should be stripped of whatever media degree he presumably obtained to work there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,182 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    on the subject of rape and/or paedophilia: Hard Candy is a great film :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭Sm0ke


    wow aint i stupid! lmfao


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Copy+paste dnt forward lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Overheal wrote:
    on the subject of rape and/or paedophilia: Hard Candy is a great film :)
    I like that porno where Jodie Foster does it on the pinball machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    JESSICA MYDEK IS SEVEN YEARS OLD AND IS SUFFERING FROM AN ACUTE AND VERY RARE CASE OF CEREBRAL CARCINOMA. THIS CONDITION CAUSES SEVERE MALIGNANT BRAIN TUMORS AND IS A TERMINAL ILLNESS. THE DOCTORS HAVE GIVEN HER SIX MONTHS TO LIVE. AS PART OF HER DYING WISH, SHE WANTED TO START A CHAIN LETTER TO INFORM PEOPLE OF THIS CONDITION AND TO SEND PEOPLE THE MESSAGE TO LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST AND ENJOY EVERY MOMENT, A CHANCE THAT SHE WILL NEVER HAVE.

    FUTHERMORE, THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY AND SEVERAL CORPORATE SPONSORS HAVE AGREED TO DONATE THREE CENTS TOWARD CONTINUING CANCER RESEARCH FOR EVERY NEW PERSON THAT GETS FORWARDED THIS MESSAGE. PLEASE GIVE JESSICA AND ALL CANCER VICTIMS A CHANCE. ADD ACS@AOL.COM TO THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT YOU SEND THIS TO SO THAT THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY WILL BE ABLE TO CALCULATE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN THIS.

    IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, SEND THEM TO THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY AT ACS@AOL.COM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭NutJob


    Iv seen some horrible/sick forwards like this in my time.

    Whoever starts these things deserves a serious kicking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    Overheal wrote:
    As a barmen I am occassionaly disgusted with the rate that some boyfriends will try to funnel drink down their date's throat. Just as bad as any drug.

    Surely the lads are not boyfriends if the person with them is a date?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hoax email or not, date rape pills are a major issue in pubs/clubs around the country. I know one or 2 people personally who have been affected by these on nights out. All the better if an email like this causes panic, it's better than people being ignorant as to whats happening, and falling foul of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Hoax email or not, date rape pills are a major issue in pubs/clubs around the country. I know one or 2 people personally who have been affected by these on nights out. All the better if an email like this causes panic, it's better than people being ignorant as to whats happening, and falling foul of it.
    Panic is not the same thing as awareness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    OT Alcohol the main drug in date rape cases
    http://hrbndc.imaxan.ie/directory/news_detail.php?cat_id=&news_id=493&pointer=140


    Oh, and:
    Police warn all single men, party-goers and unsuspecting pub regulars to be alert and stay cautious when offered a drink from any woman. A new date rape drug on the market called "beer" is used by many females to target unsuspecting men.

    The drug is generally found in liquid form and is now available anywhere. "Beer" is used by female sexual predators at parties and bars to persuade their male victims to go home and have sex with them.

    Typically, a woman needs only to persuade a guy to consume a few units of "beer" and then simply ask him home for no-strings-attached sex. Men are rendered helpless against this approach. After several "beers" men will often succumb to desires to perform sexual acts on horrific looking women to whom they would never normally be attracted.

    After drinking "beer" men often awaken with only hazy memories of exactly what happened to them the night before, often with just a vague feeling that something bad occurred. At other times these unfortunate men are swindled out of their life's savings in a familiar scam known as "a relationship."

    Apparently, men are much more susceptible to this scam after "beer" is administered and sex is offered by the predatory female.

    Please! Forward this warning to every male you know. Click here to E-mail this page to a friend.

    to forward this warning to a friend of yours!However, if you fall victim to this insidious "beer" and the predatory women administering it, there are male support groups with venues in every town where you can discuss the details of your shocking encounter in an open and frank manner with similarly affected, like minded guys.

    For the support group nearest you, just look up "Golf Courses" in the Yellow pages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    If you ask me the dates are asking to be raped.

    Just look at how sexy they are. Who wouldn't want to shove their cock into that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Good one, Biko. Heard it before.:)

    Yep, drink is still the major drug when it comes to date rape according to news reports. Everyone, whether they be male or female, should know not to leave their drink unattended, though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 633 ✭✭✭dublinario


    A couple of months ago there was a piece on Matt Cooper's show about date rape pills. They had a girl on from the Irish Rape Crisis Centre, and a girl from an equivalent body in the UK. They both concurred that the whole Date Rape pill thing was a complete myth. Neither knew of a single reported incident that was corroborated by a toxicology test.

    Bottom line (according to these two experts) was that these pills (e.g., rohypnol) are totally unnecessary, because drink is already doing that job. Apparently, the whole Date Rape Pill fallacy was a media invention. One paper printed an article years ago saying "drugs like rohypnol COULD BE used for date rape", and less laudable papers skewed the story to "drugs like rohypnol ARE being used for date rape". And ever since, society has been bombarded with scaremongering about girls having to watch their drinks like hawks; not to mention the amount of story lines in TV programs about these pills (e.g., Brookside, Hollyoaks), despite nobody using them (for that purpose) in the real world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,182 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Panic is not the same thing as awareness.
    Works in America well enough :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,582 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    dublinario wrote:
    A couple of months ago there was a piece on Matt Cooper's show about date rape pills. They had a girl on from the Irish Rape Crisis Centre, and a girl from an equivalent body in the UK. They both concurred that the whole Date Rape pill thing was a complete myth. Neither knew of a single reported incident that was corroborated by a toxicology test.

    Bottom line (according to these two experts) was that these pills (e.g., rohypnol) are totally unnecessary, because drink is already doing that job. Apparently, the whole Date Rape Pill fallacy was a media invention. One paper printed an article years ago saying "drugs like rohypnol COULD BE used for date rape", and less laudable papers skewed the story to "drugs like rohypnol ARE being used for date rape". And ever since, society has been bombarded with scaremongering about girls having to watch their drinks like hawks; not to mention the amount of story lines in TV programs about these pills (e.g., Brookside, Hollyoaks), despite nobody using them (for that purpose) in the real world.

    Someone with a bit of sense at last. There hasn't been a single confirmed case of 'drug rape' in Ireland IIRC, yet you constantly hear of people who were *definitely* drugged - usually after 15 - 20 drinks I'd wager.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭im_invisible


    hmmm.

    i think my drink might have been spiked on saturday night, my head was seriously buzzing afterwards, or maybe it was just the 5 vodka and red bulls i had,,,,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,182 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Those are surpisingly good: I only hate them because I have to serve them perpetually. My talents are wasted on dispensing vodka from optics: I should be pulling pints or making cocktails..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    Hoax email or not, date rape pills are a major issue in pubs/clubs around the country. I know one or 2 people personally who have been affected by these on nights out. All the better if an email like this causes panic, it's better than people being ignorant as to whats happening, and falling foul of it.
    That's precisely why people should be ashamed forwarding this sort of crap around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Dragan wrote:
    I ****ing hate rapists. Truly do. Pathetic human beings altogether. Sadly it's not just Roofies that people need to watch out for, but also simple things like GBL and GHB which are found in cleaning products will knock you out pretty quickly as well.

    Remembers folks, scumbags are everywhere.
    Ah now, not all rapists are that bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Spitfire666


    I was just about to post that dublinario. There hasnt been ANY case were date rape drugs have be found to have been used......EVER.
    Ad to that the fact that rohypnol contains a dye that will turn your drink a dark blue/black color when its put in one, who'd drink it?

    Its so stupid. I've heard it over and over from mothers who say oh, my daughters drink was spiked last night. she was very ill when she woke up having arrived home at like 4am and she couldnt remember much.
    Such scutter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    dublinario wrote:
    A couple of months ago there was a piece on Matt Cooper's show about date rape pills. They had a girl on from the Irish Rape Crisis Centre, and a girl from an equivalent body in the UK. They both concurred that the whole Date Rape pill thing was a complete myth. Neither knew of a single reported incident that was corroborated by a toxicology test.

    Bottom line (according to these two experts) was that these pills (e.g., rohypnol) are totally unnecessary, because drink is already doing that job. Apparently, the whole Date Rape Pill fallacy was a media invention. One paper printed an article years ago saying "drugs like rohypnol COULD BE used for date rape", and less laudable papers skewed the story to "drugs like rohypnol ARE being used for date rape". And ever since, society has been bombarded with scaremongering about girls having to watch their drinks like hawks; not to mention the amount of story lines in TV programs about these pills (e.g., Brookside, Hollyoaks), despite nobody using them (for that purpose) in the real world.

    i was just about to mention that show :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    ^ Well if the Space Pope agrees....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    ^ Well if the Space Pope agrees....
    bless you my biped son


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭Plissken1


    When they get sick, they blame the food they ate that night. When they cant remember where they were that night, they blame some date rape drug. But the fact that they were doing shots of tequila and drinking fat frogs is never mentioned. I always blame the drink when soemthing goes wrong !! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭Plissken1


    Good one, Biko. Heard it before.:)

    Everyone, whether they be male or female, should know not to leave their drink unattended, though.


    Yeah because some tight f***er will rob it !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Guys, the simple fact is that there are drugs out there that will knock people for six, the main one is being sold over the bar! Having worked in the industry for a long time I am often disgusted at the state that people get themselves into. Just this Saturday night while on the door a girl on her own staggered past at about half one I the morning. Myself and the guy I was working with asked her did she want us to call her a taxi and told her she could wait for it just at the door ( no way was she getting inside as she was a definite puker! ) , that if we called her one it would be there within five minutes.

    She politely told us to go and **** ourselves and continued on her merry stagger. Would it be nice to think that people can go for a drunken aimless wander in safety? Sure it would. Is it realistic however? Not at all.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 633 ✭✭✭dublinario


    Plissken1 wrote:
    I always blame the drink when soemthing goes wrong !! :rolleyes:

    Everything I've ever done wrong has been the fault of one of the following:

    a) drink
    b) somebody else
    c) a traumatic childhood
    d) the government
    e) the guy in the adjacent snug who keeps blinking in unison with me
    f) space monkeys controlling my brain

    If all these irritants disappeared, I could live my life in peace, without the chronic rage and violent, perpetual revenge fantasies that monopolise my thoughts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    NutJob wrote:
    Iv seen some horrible/sick forwards like this in my time.

    Whoever starts these things deserves a serious kicking.


    Ive traced a few back to the original sender/creator and of the 7 or so chain mails, they were all started by kids aged 12-14 using text speak on their bebo/myspace profiles.

    It was pages like those that made me sad to think these people will one day be adults, sweet raptor jesus have mercy on us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    dublinario wrote:
    f) space monkeys controlling my brain
    Shhhhhhh... Don't let them know you're on to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    dublinario wrote:
    Everything I've ever done wrong has been the fault of one of the following:

    a) drink
    b) somebody else
    c) a traumatic childhood
    d) the government
    e) the guy in the adjacent snug who keeps blinking in unison with me
    f) space monkeys controlling my brain

    If all these irritants disappeared, I could live my life in peace, without the chronic rage and violent, perpetual revenge fantasies that monopolise my thoughts.
    Perhaps you should concoct an email circular to warn of the dangers of space monkeys and send it on to 15 of your friends


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 633 ✭✭✭dublinario


    CiaranC wrote:
    Perhaps you should concoct an email circular to warn of the dangers of space monkeys and send it on to 15 of your friends

    They got to you. Didn't they...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭damiennolan


    Terry wrote:
    I like that porno where Jodie Foster does it on the pinball machine.

    Possibly the greatest love scene of all time, even surpassing From Here to Eternity


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 633 ✭✭✭dublinario


    Possibly the greatest love scene of all time, even surpassing From Here to Eternity

    Greatest love scene of all time? That's debatable. For example, did it have the subtle, tender romance of the scene from Deliverance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Neo#


    Squeeel piggggy squeeeeel! I just thought of a great name for a band: The Evil Space Monkeys! Actually no, its too much like the arctic monkeys. Wait, what was this thread about again?:confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 633 ✭✭✭dublinario


    Neo# wrote:
    Squeeel piggggy squeeeeel! I just thought of a great name for a band: The Evil Space Monkeys! Actually no, its too much like the arctic monkeys.

    Nothing ventured Neo, nothing gained. I've had numerous ill-faithed bands whose names could be considered loosely reminiscent of more famous outfits:

    The Poker Hot Green Peppers
    U3
    Bob Dolan
    Snoop Doggy Platypus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Preffered the Red Hot Chili Feckers myself....they were on Podge and Rodge a while back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,494 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Plissken1 wrote:
    When they get sick, they blame the food they ate that night. When they cant remember where they were that night, they blame some date rape drug. But the fact that they were doing shots of tequila and drinking fat frogs is never mentioned. I always blame the drink when soemthing goes wrong !! :rolleyes:
    Once (only the once) I had diarrhoea and cried off going to work. I didn't mention it was caused by blue label vodka.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Victor wrote:
    Once (only the once) I had diarrhoea and cried off going to work. I didn't mention it was caused by blue label vodka.
    Actual diarrhoea or just a wet sh*t?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Neo#


    dublinario wrote:
    Nothing ventured Neo, nothing gained. I've had numerous ill-faithed bands whose names could be considered loosely reminiscent of more famous outfits:

    The Poker Hot Green Peppers
    U3
    Bob Dolan
    Snoop Doggy Platypus

    lol. howabout the smashing melons, or the rolling bones. Or even Televisionhead!:D


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