NTL - new routing

nag

to my astonishment this evening, i was getting pings of 16 to games2.unreal.ie (UT server). i did a tracert and...

Tracing route to games2.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1  <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms DD-WRT [192.168.1.100]
 2  13 ms  7 ms  7 ms 10.92.32.1
 3   8 ms  5 ms  8 ms 089-101-162105.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.105]
 4   8 ms  7 ms  8 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-2-1-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.13]
 5   8 ms  7 ms  7 ms ie-dub02a-si1.aorta.net [213.46.165.37]
 6  13 ms  7 ms  8 ms ge0-1.br001.cwt.esat.net [193.242.111.17]
 7   8 ms  7 ms  9 ms vlan2.rt001.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.3]
 8   8 ms  7 ms 10 ms vlan51.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.138]
 9  11 ms  9 ms  7 ms vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
10   6 ms  8 ms  7 ms darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]

Trace complete.

then i got disconnected (of course) and when i came back online, it looked more like this...

Tracing route to games2.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1   1 ms  <1 ms  <1 ms  DD-WRT [192.168.1.1]
 2  18 ms   5 ms   5 ms  10.92.32.1
 3 121 ms   8 ms   6 ms  089-101-162073.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.73]
 4   7 ms   5 ms   5 ms  dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.9]
 5  17 ms  16 ms  20 ms  nl-ams-rc-02-pos-2-0.chellonetwork.com [213.46.160.17]
 6 110 ms  22 ms  23 ms  be-bru01a-ra2-ge-0-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.160.38]
 7  21 ms  22 ms  32 ms  bt-ignite-eu.bnix.net [194.53.172.112]
 8  24 ms  21 ms  28 ms  t2c2-ge7-0.be-bru.eu.bt.net [166.49.190.44]
 9  33 ms  34 ms  31 ms  t2c1-p10-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.164.190]
10  32 ms  31 ms  34 ms  t2a4-ge6-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.200.124]
11  24 ms  23 ms  23 ms  166-49-153-130.eu.bt.net [166.49.153.130]
12  24 ms  27 ms 127 ms  vlan3.rt002.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.19]
13  32 ms  26 ms  33 ms  vlan53.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.154]
14  28 ms  27 ms  27 ms  vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
15  26 ms  26 ms 104 ms  darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]

Trace complete.

with pings of ~28 which is a marked improvement from the 60's i used to get. i saw that others have noticed the same goings on so i thought id start this thread as a record of NTL's activity. does anyone know what NTL's plans are for the future? they're obviously doing work on the lines but whats the final outcome to be?


Package: ntl Broadband Max
Location: Grand Canal Dock, Dublin 4

OfflerCrocGod

Well it seems as if they are testing out new routes but they are still going back to Amsterdam routing - hopefully soon they will have it all sorted. 16ms is damn nice!

christophicus

How do you do the trace route?

dathiultaigh

go to your DOS prompt and type in the command :

tracert /?

this will show a brief explanation of the command usage and the switches you use with it.

for you to check this yourself enter in the tracert command followed by the destination IP/DNS address of the node you want to trace to. Try the last example shown by nag :

tracert darwin.unreal.ie

basically you will max/min/avg latency response times for each hop to each node.

enter in the ip address or DNS address at the end of the command to whatever you want.

christophicus

Thanks , but the page automatically closes when its done how do I stop it from closing?

nevermind.I gopt it fixed, Thanks for your help.

John32c

Anyone got the same problem. The Broadband connection is crawling over the last two days. Anyone got the same problem or resolution to it?
Im in Dublin South!

Noelie

Yep John, mine is the same. It's kinda on and off, one minute it's flying along and then suddenly it's slower than dial up, going to give them a ring today about it, Mine's been like this for well over a week now.

madmoe

Hey guys,
Have been experiencing the same here!

M

mwrf

tbh, you're pis**ng against the wind ringing up. the rep will just try organise an engineer to go out to your house even though there is nothing wrong at your end

tomc

Try this

http://www.speedtest.net/

landmonster

I wish they'd route it back. Every week it seems more and more sites are inaccessible.

mang87

Oh man! Mang87 is back, baby!!

Noggles im pinging 28 to the tam server, i don't believe it

(usual 80-90)

Reply from 193.120.200.50: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=56
Reply from 193.120.200.50: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=56
Reply from 193.120.200.50: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=56
Reply from 193.120.200.50: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 193.120.200.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 43ms, Average = 30ms

1 72 ms 15 ms 19 ms ******
2 40 ms 18 ms 10 ms 089-101-162049.ntlworld.ie [******]
3 47 ms 9 ms 11 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-2-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.1
7]
4 10 ms 42 ms 8 ms ie-dub02a-si1.aorta.net [213.46.165.37]
5 43 ms 141 ms 39 ms ge0-1.br001.cwt.esat.net [193.242.111.17]
6 58 ms 9 ms 68 ms vlan2.rt001.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.3]
7 11 ms 11 ms 42 ms vlan51.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.138]
8 19 ms 7 ms 12 ms vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
9 11 ms 7 ms 64 ms darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]

Please, please let this stay.

christophicus

Its going throung the netherlands for me.



Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>tracert darwin.unreal.ie

Tracing route to darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 25 ms 28 ms 8 ms 10.92.224.1
3 46 ms 29 ms 8 ms 089-101-162129.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.129]
4 25 ms 9 ms 23 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.9
]
5 22 ms 32 ms 40 ms nl-ams-rc-02-pos-2-0.chellonetwork.com [213.46.1
60.17]
6 27 ms 32 ms 41 ms be-bru01a-ra2-ge-0-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.160.3
8]
7 22 ms 23 ms 26 ms bt-ignite-eu.bnix.net [194.53.172.112]
8 40 ms 23 ms 31 ms t2c2-ge6-0.be-bru.eu.bt.net [166.49.190.12]
9 33 ms 66 ms 35 ms t2c1-p10-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.164.190]
10 51 ms 33 ms 33 ms t2a4-ge6-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.200.124]
11 40 ms 36 ms 34 ms 166-49-153-130.eu.bt.net [166.49.153.130]
12 107 ms 235 ms 235 ms vlan3.rt002.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.19]
13 58 ms 35 ms 57 ms vlan53.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.154]
14 45 ms 50 ms 44 ms vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
15 46 ms 45 ms 43 ms darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

zilog_jones

Is that server hosted by BT or something?

1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.0.0.1
  2    18 ms    17 ms    18 ms  bas503.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.239]
  3    17 ms    18 ms    17 ms  vlan500.rt502.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.125]
  4    18 ms    19 ms    19 ms  vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
  5    18 ms    18 ms    19 ms  darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]

Trace complete.

I'm getting an average ping of 23ms. Wow. I'm on BT BB.

Also, if you do ping -t <blah> it will continuously ping until you press ctrl+c to stop it.

mang87

Back to being routed through ****ING amsterdam again, AWESOME.

peepsbates

mang87 wrote:

Back to being routed through ****ING amsterdam again, AWESOME.

not me:D n.t.l. waterford btw

Snake Plisken

Hey getting great ping times here in Lucan, they done something major, now I don't know if its only temp and they are testing something but lets see how long this lasts

PING 193.120.200.50 (193.120.200.50): 56 data bytes
84 bytes from 193.120.200.50: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=7.2 ms
84 bytes from 193.120.200.50: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=11.5 ms
84 bytes from 193.120.200.50: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=8.0 ms
84 bytes from 193.120.200.50: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=9.7 ms
84 bytes from 193.120.200.50: icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=10.1 ms
--- 193.120.200.50 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 7.2/9.3/11.5 ms


Snake

Noelie

Mine this morning were bad, getting an average of about 140ms to hotmail

christophicus

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>tracert darwin.unreal.ie

Tracing route to darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 10 ms 6 ms 37 ms 10.92.224.1
3 15 ms 32 ms 38 ms 089-101-162161.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.161]
4 14 ms 38 ms 80 ms 213.46.165.53
5 33 ms 33 ms 36 ms ie-dub02a-si1.aorta.net [213.46.165.37]
6 14 ms 32 ms 14 ms ge0-1.br001.cwt.esat.net [193.242.111.17]
7 31 ms 31 ms 14 ms vlan2.rt001.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.3]
8 31 ms 22 ms 15 ms vlan52.rt502.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.146]
9 17 ms 14 ms 19 ms vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
10 15 ms 18 ms 15 ms darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ping www.underground1.net

Pinging underground1.net [72.9.255.2] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 72.9.255.2: bytes=32 time=112ms TTL=45
Reply from 72.9.255.2: bytes=32 time=124ms TTL=45
Reply from 72.9.255.2: bytes=32 time=125ms TTL=44
Reply from 72.9.255.2: bytes=32 time=112ms TTL=45

Ping statistics for 72.9.255.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 112ms, Maximum = 125ms, Average = 118ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ping darwin.unreal.ie

Pinging darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 193.120.200.50: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=55
Reply from 193.120.200.50: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=55
Reply from 193.120.200.50: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=55
Reply from 193.120.200.50: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 193.120.200.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 14ms, Maximum = 20ms, Average = 17ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>^X


Yeah I dont think it is going through the netherlands now.
My pings are ok.

donal.hunt

routing to blogspot websites is plain weird.... (going through ntlworld.ie, ntl, telewest and blueyonder).

christophicus

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>tracert darwin.unreal.ie

Tracing route to darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 6 ms 6 ms 13 ms 10.92.224.1
3 33 ms 15 ms 29 ms 089-101-162161.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.161]
4 30 ms 17 ms 14 ms 213.46.165.49
5 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms nl-ams-rc-02-pos-2-0.chellonetwork.com [213.46.1
60.17]
6 26 ms 35 ms 29 ms be-bru01a-ra2-ge-0-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.160.3
8]
7 46 ms 29 ms 31 ms bt-ignite-eu.bnix.net [194.53.172.112]
8 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms t2c2-ge6-0.be-bru.eu.bt.net [166.49.190.12]
9 33 ms 52 ms 32 ms t2c1-p10-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.164.190]
10 31 ms 29 ms 32 ms t2a4-ge6-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.200.124]
11 66 ms 50 ms 58 ms 166-49-153-130.eu.bt.net [166.49.153.130]
12 74 ms 50 ms 56 ms vlan3.rt002.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.19]
13 47 ms 71 ms 47 ms vlan53.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.154]
14 69 ms 51 ms 47 ms vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
15 46 ms 74 ms 84 ms darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>

Yep going through the netherlands againn

mang87

peepsbates wrote:

not me:D n.t.l. waterford btw

My routing keeps changing. I thought I was back to Amsterdam, but only for certain things.

This is to games3.unreal.ie:

Tracing route to games3.unreal.ie [193.120.200.51]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 13 ms 19 ms 10.91.128.1
2 7 ms 23 ms 6 ms 089-101-162049.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.49]
3 15 ms 6 ms 7 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-2-1-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.1
3]
4 22 ms 12 ms 13 ms ie-dub02a-si1.aorta.net [213.46.165.37]
5 15 ms 9 ms 23 ms ge0-1.br001.cwt.esat.net [193.242.111.17]
6 27 ms 28 ms 6 ms vlan2.rt001.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.3]
7 9 ms 49 ms 14 ms vlan51.rt501.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.138]
8 20 ms 13 ms 12 ms vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
9 14 ms 37 ms 70 ms dodo.unreal.ie [193.120.200.51]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

This is to games2.unreal.ie:

Tracing route to games2.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 28 ms 24 ms 8 ms 10.91.128.1
2 15 ms 32 ms 31 ms 089-101-162017.ntlworld.ie [89.101.162.17]
3 16 ms 21 ms 15 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-2-1-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.165.5
]
4 30 ms 25 ms 14 ms nl-ams-rc-02-pos-2-0.chellonetwork.com [213.46.1
60.17]
5 35 ms 30 ms 20 ms be-bru01a-ra2-ge-0-2-0-0.aorta.net [213.46.160.3
8]
6 37 ms 35 ms 33 ms bt-ignite-eu.bnix.net [194.53.172.112]
7 35 ms 48 ms 21 ms t2c2-ge7-0.be-bru.eu.bt.net [166.49.190.44]
8 40 ms 33 ms 29 ms t2c1-p10-1.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.164.190]
9 40 ms 41 ms 40 ms t2a4-ge7-0.nl-ams2.eu.bt.net [166.49.200.52]
10 27 ms 29 ms 42 ms 166-49-153-130.eu.bt.net [166.49.153.130]
11 31 ms 35 ms 34 ms vlan3.rt002.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.19]
12 40 ms 34 ms 20 ms vlan54.rt502.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.162]
13 44 ms 31 ms 24 ms vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
14 42 ms 46 ms 25 ms darwin.unreal.ie [193.120.200.50]

They are different server boxes, but they are both in the same data center! Yet totally different routes