Anyone adding a PS3 to their console collection?

Fingleberries

Vegeta wrote:

I also HATE PS controllers. The analogue sticks are awful compared to the Nintendo and MS versions

Very true ... the PS controllers aren't that good, and the PS3 ones are even lighter (and don't rumble) ... I'm really not seeing anything convincing to warrant the €600-€800 on a PS3, when most of the games are (or will) be available on 360 and will look equally as impressive, if not more impressive, to the average masses.

kippy wrote:

I'll probably do the same as another poster above and put the 700 yoyo towards a decent sized LCD.
Kippy

Aahhh. Good thinking, Batman... Now, off to convice the missus that we need a new HD LCD

Makaveli

I might consider one a couple of years down the line when there is a decent catalogue of games. I've never bought a console at launch and probably never will. Why bother when a year down the line the early problems should have been addressed and fixed and there's a few games worth owning. I did it with the 360 and I'll do it with the Wii. The PS3 will have to come down somewhere in the region of 50% in price before I'll consider it.

I could just put the money towards a tv anyway as others have said. Currently I'm using a 19" LCD monitor for my 360 which suits my needs as it's in my bedroom, but I'd prefer to spend my money on Sky HD and a tele to match rather than a PS3 and a couple of games. The opportunity cost of the PS3 is not worth it.

Timmy

THE 360 WINS

Thanks all, I shall now be looking for my €50 deposit back and will wait for a decent price drop.

FYI, Ive heard that Xtravision will be renting only Blu-ray movies from the launch of the PS3 (not backing HD-DVD format for now). That will be shagall movies though, all I can think of is Casino Royale.

Really appreciate your answers all.

The_B_Man

the PS3 controller does have rumble, FYI.

Ciaran500

The_B_Man wrote:

the PS3 controller does have rumble, FYI.

No it doesn't.

Sony have struck a deal to allow them to use their patents in "PlayStation products". So we might see a controller with rumble in the future.

doyler442

The_B_Man wrote:

the PS3 controller does have rumble, FYI.

I dont thing they do. sony decided to replace rumble with tilt motion sensors meaning when you move the controller it can move things on the screen, which they copied off nintendo wii.
they have however in the last few days signed a deal with the people who invented rumble in controllers and mayb further down the line they will put it in the controllers

Kristok

I got one cause i was in the states and it was only 500 but ive so much buyers remorse now its not even funny. But least im now in the psWii60 club so i wont be biased when i say its rubbish hehe.

Mitch Connor

buyers remorse you say.....i'lll give you €500 for it

humanji

Won't be going near one unless it's given to me for free or near enough to it. And I personally think all this HD-DVD/Blu-Ray stuff is nonsense. Has anyone here actually compared HD with SD? I always thought HD would be amazingling different, but most of the time you won't even notice. The only things that benefit from HD are wildlife documenatries, which really look amazing. But films and tv shows just don't look that different at all.

LFCFan

humanji wrote:

Won't be going near one unless it's given to me for free or near enough to it. And I personally think all this HD-DVD/Blu-Ray stuff is nonsense. Has anyone here actually compared HD with SD? I always thought HD would be amazingling different, but most of the time you won't even notice. The only things that benefit from HD are wildlife documenatries, which really look amazing. But films and tv shows just don't look that different at all.

You mustn't have been looking at a proper set up or something because HD kicks SD's ass on a large Large HD TV. 37" and above looks amazing.

Kristok

Hd is good but even though i own a ps3 i wont be rushing out to buy any movies on blu ray, dvd is still great quality when you watch a movie through a hd output like hdmi the difference between them is not massive.

humanji

It was on a 42" plasma tv. As I said, you could really tell the difference with wildlife documetaries, and it was breathtaking how crystal clear it was, but with movies, it just wasn't noticable enough to want to upgrade all my kit.

McDermotX

As a supporter of both Blu-ray and HD-DVD, I cannot disagree more with the notion that neither is an improvement over SD..
The difference is night and day, but it does require the correct setup and components. Anybody expecting to see the improvements via a demo in-store or whatever can forget about it, most stores do not have the right equipment/knowledge to maximize the jump in quality.

PQ can be astonishing on both formats, and even with the best DVD upscaler its very difficult to watch DVD without compromising. So much so that I stopped buying DVDs 5 months ago, to concentrate on HD-DVDs and BDs.

AQ is even more of a jump, with the compressed nature of audio on DVD being shown up for what it is. TrueHD, DTS-MA (only core can be decoded on current technology for the moment), DD+ tracks are closer to the old AC3 tracks that were present on Laserdiscs and with the right setup, can't fail to impress.

From a console point of view, the HD-DVD addon for the 360 is not a great example of HD audio, due to the limitations of MS's implementation, but PQ is close to the first-gen Toshiba players.
PS3 is probably the best Blu-ray player on the market right now, offering equal PQ/AQ with the high-end Pioneer and Sony players. The downside is the lack of analog out on the PS3 forces the user to have a HDMI equipped amp in order to fully appreciate the native soundtracks.

True, the larger/better quality display you have will make you appreciate the difference more, but HD viewing is not a cheap hobby (same was true for DVD 7-8 years ago, and Laserdisc before it). And despite the high entry cost, MS and Sony ,especially, should be commended for offering the latest tech with their machines.
Of course, in the PS3's case, people will complain about having being forced to adopt Blu-ray and paying top dolllar.

Best demos of HD at the moment (SkyHD does not compare by the way)
King Kong (HD-DVD)
Kingdom of Heaven (BD)
The Prestige (BD)
Crank (BD)
Open Season (BD)
Serenity (HD-DVD)
Batman Begins (HD-DVD)
Hulk (HD-DVD)
MI:3 (BD and HD-DVD) and many more..

Plus the like of Casino Royale, Cars, Pirates of th C, Spiderman etc should all be awesome examples later in the year..

humanji

Is that "night and day" difference worth several hundred euro for minimal content?

McDermotX

humanji wrote:

Is that "night and day" difference worth several hundred euro for minimal content?

All depends how serious you are about Home Cinema, doesn't it ?
Minimal content ?? Over 200 titles available on each format..
HD as it stands, despite this perceived format war, is in a much stronger state than DVD was at the same stage of its life, content-wise..
There have been a number of day and date releases already this year (Prestige, Departed etc etc..) and some massive back catalogue titles already, and due later throughout the year on both formats.
DVD was fine in its day, but I think you'll find any serious home theater enthusiast has already moved on, or is at least waiting to see which format will be dominant.

Blu-ray software sales have jumped significantly since December in the US, mainly due to the PS3.......the same may happen here over time, but because of DVD mainstream penetration, it is a slightly different scenario than VHS->DVD.
The PS3 may help this to change, only time will tell as Ireland is relatively slow to embrace new formats........I can count on one hand the amount of stores carrying BD/HD-DVD titles at the moment.
We'll see how many there are come the end of the year..

Headshot

i got Kingdom of Heaven (BD) and watching it on 1080p and mg its class

you can really see the differences

the one thing im dreading is when xtra vision start renting blue-ray movies i wont beable to watch it because my ps3 is ntsc but thats probly a good bit off

muckwarrior

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote:

the one thing im dreading is when xtra vision start renting blue-ray movies i wont beable to watch it because my ps3 isnt pal but thats probly a good bit off

I could be totally off the mark here, but I assumed that when it came to HD that PAL/NTSC went out the window? I.e. 720p, 1080i etc. were universal formats?

Headshot

i googled to see could you play pal blue-ray disks on a ps3

there were conflicting reports about it

some say you{they say the blue rays out now so far are multi-regional}

and others say no

??

Ciaran500

Theres no more PAL/NTSC with HD but there is still region locks and your PS3 is locked to US movies.

McDermotX

Ciaran500 wrote:

Theres no more PAL/NTSC with HD but there is still region locks and your PS3 is locked to US movies.

As Ciaran500 says, PAL/NTSC is out the door..
The are region locks on Blu-ray (A,B,C).....none on HD-DVD for the moment and probably never will be..
There is a number of RegionB BDs (Europe) that will play on any BD player (including PS3).... see here http://bluray.lindsite.dk/
But generally locks are in place for Fox titles, and some Sony's, although the back catalogue titles will be coded A,B,C by all accounts..
As far as I know the Euro Casino Royale BD will also be coded A,B,C...

US PS3s also have the benefit of sharing the same RegionA status with Japan, so any Japanese film fans will be happy as well......same applies for Jap PS3s..

muckwarrior

Ah ok, region locks. That makes more sense alright!

Timmy

So did anyone buy a PS3 and is it better than the 360 in your opinion??

Clarity wise - I had a quick look at a demo in Virgin Liffey Valley and was very unmoved but it could be set up wrong? Also heard that there are plenty of machines around...but thats just a rumour!

Personally I'm happy I chickened out and got my deposit back.

Ciaran500

Timmy wrote:

Clarity wise - I had a quick look at a demo in Virgin Liffey Valley and was very unmoved but it could be set up wrong? Also heard that there are plenty of machines around...but thats just a rumour!

That's the reality of it and there is loads of machines around.

Snake Plisken

The statement by Kristok that there is no great difference between HD and standard DVD, a good example for me was watching one of my favourite movies The Thing from 1982 on HD-DVD and had never noticed that the Doc had a nose ring through his nose, now I watched that movie several times over the years and never noticed that. It depends what kind of set you have as well, if you have a 32" set and you sit 8 feet plus from the screen you won't notice any great quality difference but if you have 37", 40" 42" or 50" that is where HD comes into its own.

Flaccus

Clank wrote:

Savemejebus if a 360 was released with HDMI though would you get it?
On a 37" screen the gains arent going to be that impressive either from 720p to 1080p.

Maybe not for watching movies but they are for gaming providing the developer uses high res textures and of course you sit close to your screen when gaming, and the game itself is native 1080p which I understand only Virtua Tennis 3 is.

Just look at Oblivion on the PC at 1280x1024 and then crank it up to 1920x1200 and there is a huge difference in quality. I would hope the same thing would be true of PS3 games and 360 games later on (or can 360 only render games internally at 720p). From what I have read though, MS at least will continue to produce games only at 720p for now as this is the sweet spot. Not sure what the story is with the PS3 developers.