Model Release Question

mdebets

A friend ask me to take some photos for her company, which will contain pictures of her employees.
I know, that you normally need model release forms signed, if you want to use a photo of a person for advertisement, but does this also apply for employees of a company, if the advertisement is for their employer.

magicbastarder

yes, as far as i know, in that i know someone who appeared in an ad for their company, and they signed a model release form.

bigred

Yep, absolutely, no release, no photo.
It's somewhere in some privacy legislation - the employee's right to privacy at work

mdebets

Thanks, that what I thought. I wasn't just sure.

Simplicius

I have a new angle on this.

I have just been asked for use of one of my photos on a cover of a national magazine, naturally it is a street shot of 3 people interacting, none of whom knew I was there. One face is clearly visible.

Can I sell this picture without their releases being obtained? Does fact they were on the street over-ride the other laws...

I think I know the answer myself but thought it is no harm to pluck the wisdom from the board's guru's.

DotOrg

mdebets wrote: »

A friend ask me to take some photos for her company, which will contain pictures of her employees.
I know, that you normally need model release forms signed, if you want to use a photo of a person for advertisement, but does this also apply for employees of a company, if the advertisement is for their employer.

to me that question isn't for you, as you ang an employeeren't the person publishing the picture, the company is. so if there are any issues, it will be between the employees and their boss

in the company i work for it outlines their policies on things like this in the staff handbook. for many companies, by being an employee, you often give your employee many rights including things like this

Simplicius

Cheers but that does not answer my question

Simplicius wrote: »

I have a new angle on this.

I have just been asked for use of one of my photos on a cover of a national magazine, naturally it is a street shot of 3 people interacting, none of whom knew I was there. One face is clearly visible.

Can I sell this picture without their releases being obtained? Does fact they were on the street over-ride the other laws...

I think I know the answer myself but thought it is no harm to pluck the wisdom from the board's guru's.

melekalikimaka

i think your ok if it was in public, and ya aint dissin the folk and the image isnt focused on the one whos visable??? maybe?

Paulw

Simplicius wrote: »

I have just been asked for use of one of my photos on a cover of a national magazine, naturally it is a street shot of 3 people interacting, none of whom knew I was there. One face is clearly visible.

Can I sell this picture without their releases being obtained?

I think you will need a full signed release for this, especially if it's to be used in a magazine (non-editorial??).

No harm going back to them and asking for a signed release.

DaireQuinlan

Paulw wrote: »

I think you will need a full signed release for this, especially if it's to be used in a magazine (non-editorial??).

No harm going back to them and asking for a signed release.

If it's the picture I'm thinking of, that could be ... problematical

Simplicius

DaireQuinlan wrote: »

If it's the picture I'm thinking of, that could be ... problematical

naw..not that one, this one is even more ironic...
this is the picture



and the magazine who want it for their front cover is the .. Garda Review!!

ColmDawson

Isn't there something about people in a public place having no expectation of privacy?

humberklog

Great pic as usual Simplicius. I know you're looking for a definitive answer from someone that's 100% sure so I'm not able to help there but I am very interested in the answer too. A correct definitive answer.

But I did have a question on the pic...how did the police find the photo? As in how when they were compiling their mag did they go "hey here's a shot we'd like in". How does one get a pic noticed like that?

Fajitas!

TJM would be the best person to get in contact with over something like this.

Simplicius

humberklog wrote: »

But I did have a question on the pic...how did the police find the photo? As in how when they were compiling their mag did they go "hey here's a shot we'd like in". How does one get a pic noticed like that?

Easy Answer, I have a friend who works in that section who pointed them my way .. so luck...

And yes it is an interesting question re street shooting versus rights on use of images for financial gain. (just hope it isn't some Garda sting operation to catch offenders:eek:)

ttcomet

Could you get the Garda Review to sign a licensing agreement for the image that states it is for editorial work? Would be different if you were trying to sell it to Nike or something like that as an advert.

Snowie

from what i remember

if the people are in work, and on work time you have permission to be in the work taking pics then the model realease needs to be sighned of from the MD. I think il ask t he old man for you he is wise in the ways of model realeses...

Chorcai

Simplicius wrote: »

naw..not that one, this one is even more ironic...
this is the picture



and the magazine who want it for their front cover is the .. Garda Review!!

Add motion blur to the people in the background ?

Snowie

It was generally accepted that employees can be photographed for promotional brochures etc without a release, but the law and peoples attitude change and I'm not certain any more
My feeling is that it would be wiser to get a simple release signed to prevent any unwanted complaints further down the road. It's no big deal and can save an awful lot of hassle..

from my old man .