Fitz tonight

LuckyLloyd

ocallagh wrote:

Also I don't see the point of this. Joe has seen more hands than the two of us combined in a whole range of tournaments with varying buyins!

Fair enough. Retracted.

However, I completely agree with your above comments on the bigger buyin events Niall - but your points just confirm the fact that using the term "scared money" is incorrect.

Goodluck2me

lloyd ill agree with you that many of the players at the bigger buy in events are either experieced players or degenerate gamblers, but i emphasise "many" and not all. i cannot agree that there is not more scared money in these. there are also so many players who have satellited in to these events to which 500e is a lot of money and would freeze up coming to the bubble, i am not saying that all of them are but some certianily do.
Tell me this you have AQ, you raise to i duno 4K with a 50K stack - its the bubble fo the world series/EPT/Irish Open you have satellited in for €100 and one more place gets you $11,000/€6000/€4000, there is no way you call all your chips here if you think there is even an outside chance the guy is bluffing/tryin to run over a table.

To make my poiint a little clearer i am saying there is "more likely" to be scared money playing at a bigger buy in game than in a lower buy in one, as people dont want to go out foolishly and secondly many, but not all, need to cash.
Dont get me wrong though i realise there are so many experienced players who wont let this happen, but there are enough people to make it profitable.
Also just to add that i havent played many big buy in events but i have dealt at every final tablf of note from a €60 pub game to the €5,000 EPT and its a fact people play scared around the bubble in these tournaments.

LuckyLloyd

goodluck2me wrote:

Tell me this you have AQ, you raise to i duno 4K with a 50K stack - its the bubble fo the world series/EPT/Irish Open you have satellited in for €100 and one more place gets you $11,000/€6000/€4000, there is no way you call all your chips here if you think there is even an outside chance the guy is bluffing/tryin to run over a table.

If I had a solid reason to think I was ahead here I would call. I can gaurantee you of that.

Goodluck2me

LuckyLloyd wrote:

If I had a solid reason to think I was ahead here I would call. I can gaurantee you of that.

I will be nice here, and say yes YOU would call as you are part of the experienced set of player who wont be run over but oh so many players wouldnt i can tell you that for fact. i seen a guy fold QQ to a serial raisers push in the bubble of the IPC on a Ten high flop when the guy raises him all in, and had been uber-aggressive all day. in my head im screaming CALL but he folds face up too mind! the guy insta mucks.
good players will not be run over at any buy in but bad players playing above their bankroll will not play effecietnly at higher stakes when cashing means too much to them.

MickL

Iv seen a player one sunday night cashed for 16k in the omaha game the next night he was playin his shortstack so tight on the bubble of the monday tourney!!!

bankroll means nothing to any players around the bubble of a tourney!!!

Goodluck2me

MickL wrote:

Iv seen a player one sunday night cashed for 16k in the omaha game the next night he was playin his shortstack so tight on the bubble of the monday tourney!!!

bankrool means nothing to any players around the bubble of a tourney!!!

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MickL

Just a reminder the EOM is not on tonight and the second last satt to the irish open is!!!!

bottom feeder

anyone tell me whats on in the fitz tonight.......?

LuckyLloyd

bottom feeder wrote:

anyone tell me whats on in the fitz tonight.......?

EOM I believe. Jaysus Wes, you had better buck up and qualify quick!!

bohsman

Eom.

bottom feeder

LuckyLloyd wrote:

EOM I believe. Jaysus Wes, you had better buck up and qualify quick!!

I know Lloyd, i dont fancy paying the full wack for it.... anyway the way im playing lately i probably shouldn't play it anyways.....;)

5starpool

Treat it like a satellite, sure. If you can get enough for a ticket then Bob's your uncle (not Battersby). If there is a situation where a 5 or more way split will yield enough for a ticket and you are still there then push for it, but don't say why.