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  • 18-03-2007 9:53pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭


    I felt like a homeless person rumaging around the bins at the range
    today. I am curious as I used to collect old brass.
    I found some silver .375 shell casings this evening and they were BIG
    looked like you would shoot elephants with the things!

    It made me wonder how popular the round was in Ireland have
    we any shooter here on the Boards ?

    The ammo must be expensive to fire the fact that the spend casings
    were in the bin and not taken to be reloaded suggests whoever was
    fireing them was filithy rich and not worried about costs.
    A quick google shows a price of 75 US dollars for 20 rounds.

    ~B


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Umiq88


    reloading is illegal;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭Kramer


    reloading is illegal;)

    Not yet it isn't :D .

    Something of a grey area at present that will be put right when the CJB'06 is fully enacted......permit required etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    permit required
    And good luck getting it when you have to have a part of your house set up to some standard defined to reload antitank shells and a proficiency rating from some as-yet-unnamed group. I'll withhold optimism until I see the actual regulations, not just the as-yet-uncommenced legislation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭SteveS


    Are you talking about .375 H&H? If so, then you can find it for less that $75/20, though it is not what I would call cheap. I know a few people that use it for elk and bear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    bullets wrote:
    The ammo must be expensive to fire the fact that the spend casings
    were in the bin and not taken to be reloaded suggests whoever was
    fireing them was filithy rich and not worried about costs.
    If it was .375 H&H you found (as SteveS suggests), think: "Dublin Zoo" and "Civil Service," and then ask yourself: "Who's paying the bills?"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭babybundy


    was it a a short 375 case if so it could be the the gardai with the mp7 i think thats a 375 i think its the same round as for the fn p90 its suposed to go through 4 layers of kevlar


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭babybundy


    correction its a 4.6 x30


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    There's a fair oul difference beween the two....

    You know, it might be better to say nothing than engage in pointless ill-informed speculation...


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    i think its the same round as for the fn p90 its suposed to go through 4 layers of kevlar
    From what I remember reading (the P90's round was somewhat notorious), the P90's round is only used in the P90 and its companion product, the FN 5-7 pistol, and like the latter's name suggests, it was a 5.7mm round. A quick google says the MP7 uses a 4.6mm round, which just like the P90's round, is only used in the MP7 and its companion pistol.

    In other words, neither's gonna spit out a .375 cartridge, which is nearly twice the size of either of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    its the 375 H&H mag.

    huge, who has one of these licensed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Vegeta wrote:
    its the 375 H&H mag.

    huge, who has one of these licensed
    See my post above, #6.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭babybundy


    ok i made a complete mix up here of a conversation i had last week:cool: oops


  • Registered Users Posts: 649 ✭✭✭sidneyreilly


    Rovi wrote:
    If it was .375 H&H you found (as SteveS suggests), think: "Dublin Zoo" and "Civil Service," and then ask yourself: "Who's paying the bills?"


    Ahem. Rovi, you have met an owner of one and you were looking at the ammo once?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Ahem. Rovi, you have met an owner of one and you were looking at the ammo once?
    Erm... no, but I know a man who did. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    It is a good size alright.
    To the best of my knowledge, everywhere in Africa where caliber minimums are enforced the, .375 H&H is the legal minimum for dangerous game and it is suitable for all African game ( the one rifle for everything theory :) ). Still the most commonly available big game cartridge .
    The .375 H&H is similar to the 9,3 x 62 mm Mauser, the 9.3x64 and the 9.3x74 .
    A .375 H&H Magnum with a 300 grain bullet has around 4,260+ foot pounds of energy. A standard 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet has around 2,900+ foot pounds at the muzzle.
    BTW I save my brass for that eventual day when we can reload. I hope I am not living in dream world?!!!

    RSbattery_1125B.jpg
    From left: .243 Winchester, .280 Remington, .30-06, .375 H&H, .458 Lott.

    308-7x57-93x62-375HH.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    Vegeta wrote:
    its the 375 H&H mag.
    huge, who has one of these licensed

    Forgot to mention that there was some Brass Coloured ones too
    as well as the casings that were silver in colour.
    (Wonder does that mean that there was two shooters
    at the range or one with two different types of ammo)

    Would have loved to have seen the rifle up close that
    fired those rounds. Interestingly enough the casings were
    found in the bin at the 50m range!!!!!!
    I would have thought whoever was fireing such a large
    round would have been at the 600m range.
    (which does not have bins to dump your emptys)

    ~B


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    Most field shots with a .375 are 50 - 150 M and under 300 M.

    More than likely the same shooter with different brands of ammo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    bullets wrote:
    Forgot to mention that there was some Brass Coloured ones too
    as well as the casings that were silver in colour.
    (Wonder does that mean that there was two shooters
    at the range or one with two different types of ammo)

    Would have loved to have seen the rifle up close that
    fired those rounds. Interestingly enough the casings were
    found in the bin at the 50m range!!!!!!
    I would have thought whoever was fireing such a large
    round would have been at the 600m range.
    (which does not have bins to dump your emptys)

    ~B
    The plated/brass cases were probably to allow easy differentiation between different ammunition types, solids vs. soft points, possibly.
    This is pure speculation on my part, they could be identical/similar ammunition from different manufacturers.

    This sort of ammunition is traditionally used on dangerous/heavy quarry at close quarters (hot breath in the face, no second chances, that sort of thing) over open sights, so sighting/practice at 50 meters would seem eminently sensible to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    Rovi wrote:
    The plated/brass cases were probably to allow easy open sights, so sighting/practice at 50 meters would seem eminently sensible to me.

    I feel sorry for all the .22 users that dont wear any hearing protection
    at the 50m range when that was going on ;-)

    ~B


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭foxhunter


    bullets wrote:
    I feel sorry for all the .22 users that dont wear any hearing protection
    at the 50m range when that was going on ;-)

    ~B
    i have been fortunate enough to have fired some of these rounds as a friend of mine has one licenced there is not much difference in the noise of this caliber than a .270 or similar but i must admit it feels good to pull the trigger
    and know that the round is capible of taking down a cape buffalo in full gallop


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭Traumadoc


    I shot one once - didnt think that much at the time as I was pretty new to the sport - I felt the kick of a 7.9mm Mauser was worse.


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