Now that Ireland is likely to be in the Super 8s

mikeruurds

Here's my schedule for you guys who are following this amazing tournament:

So: Games involving Ireland if we get through - seedings as per Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_World_Cup_2007
30 D1 v C2 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30 - Kenya/England
3 D1 v A2 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30 - Probably South Africa
9 D1 v C1 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30 - Probably New Zealand
13 A1 v D1 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30 - Australia
15 B2 v D1 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30 - India/Bangladesh
18 D1 v B1 ODI National Cricket Stadium, St George`s, Grenada 15:30 - Probably Sri Lanka

Full listing
March 2007
Date Home Away Venue Start
27 D2 v A1 ODI Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, Antigua & Barbuda 15:30
28 A2 v B1 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30
29 D2 v C1 ODI Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, Antigua & Barbuda 15:30
30 D1 v C2 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30
31 A1 v B2 ODI Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, Antigua & Barbuda 15:30
April 2007
Date Home Away Venue Start
1 D2 v B1 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30
2 B2 v C1 ODI Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, Antigua & Barbuda 15:30
3 D1 v A2 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30
4 C2 v B1 ODI Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, Antigua & Barbuda 15:30
7 B2 v A2 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30
8 A1 v C2 ODI Sir Vivian Richards Stadium, Antigua & Barbuda 15:30
9 D1 v C1 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30
10 D2 v A2 ODI National Cricket Stadium, St George`s, Grenada 15:30
11 C2 v B2 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30
12 B1 v C1 ODI National Cricket Stadium, St George`s, Grenada 15:30
13 A1 v D1 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30
14 A2 v C1 ODI National Cricket Stadium, St George`s, Grenada 15:30
15 B2 v D1 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30
16 A1 v B1 ODI National Cricket Stadium, St George`s, Grenada 15:30
17 A2 v C2 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30
18 D1 v B1 ODI National Cricket Stadium, St George`s, Grenada 15:30
19 D2 v B2 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30
20 A1 v C1 ODI National Cricket Stadium, St George`s, Grenada 15:30
21 D2 v C2 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30

DMC

Mike, from that page, the West Indies were second seeds in that group... so there is the likelhood that Ireland will be D1, taking Pakistan's place.

Une sec... I posted this up the other day.

It's been conveniently removed from the ICC site. Argh!

It did say (from other sites)
"Team names for the Super Eight stage are indicative based on the top two teams from the Group Stage qualifying. If these two teams do qualify they will be seeded in position 1 or 2 as specified regardless of whether they finish first or second in their group. For example, if South Africa wins Group A and Australia comes second, for the purposes of the Super Eights, South Africa will still be A2 and Australia will be A1."

Pakistan were D1, West Indies are D2.

mikeruurds

Wouldn't WI go up a seed and then Eire take WIs place?

arbeitsscheuer

mikeruurds wrote:

Wouldn't WI go up a seed and then Eire take WIs place?

I thought the same as you, but apparently not according to Sky Sports News... After announcing Windies victory over Zimbabwe they pointed out that this meant they were likely to face Australia in the first game of the Super 8s...

But Sky Sports News have probably been wrong before.

mikeruurds

That's what my schedule above says... first game against Aus on the 27th.

mikeruurds

DMC wrote:

Mike, from that page, the West Indies were second seeds in that group... so there is the likelhood that Ireland will be D1, taking Pakistan's place.

Une sec... I posted this up the other day.

It's been conveniently removed from the ICC site. Argh!

It did say (from other sites)
"Team names for the Super Eight stage are indicative based on the top two teams from the Group Stage qualifying. If these two teams do qualify they will be seeded in position 1 or 2 as specified regardless of whether they finish first or second in their group. For example, if South Africa wins Group A and Australia comes second, for the purposes of the Super Eights, South Africa will still be A2 and Australia will be A1."

Pakistan were D1, West Indies are D2.

But according to that logic then, as per Wiki, WI are seeded 6th and Ireland 13th so then WI are D1 and Eire are D2???

DMC

mikeruurds wrote:

Wouldn't WI go up a seed and then Eire take WIs place?

Not necessarily so. This was drawn up so tour packages could be drawn up.

But as it has been removed from the ICC site... who knows! I still think that if Ireland qualify, we are D1

DMC

mikeruurds wrote:

That's what my schedule above says... first game against Aus on the 27th.

What arbeitsscheuer saw on Sky Sports News is that D2, the West Indies, play Australia on the 27th.

mikeruurds

DMC wrote:

Not necessarily so. This was drawn up so tour packages could be drawn up.

But as it has been removed from the ICC site... who knows! I still think that if Ireland qualify, we are D1

No... you are right. You must be. Otherwise tour companies would be fecked.

Amended schedule then:

30 D1 v C2 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30 - Kenya/England
3 D1 v A2 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30 - Probably South Africa
9 D1 v C1 ODI Providence Stadium, Guyana 15:30 - Probably New Zealand
13 A1 v D1 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30 - Australia
15 B2 v D1 ODI Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados 15:30 - India/Bangladesh
18 D1 v B1 ODI National Cricket Stadium, St George`s, Grenada 15:30 - Probably Sri Lanka

DMC

I really don't think that the ICC bargained for this scenario. When I read that piece I pasted initally on the ICC website, IIRC it went on further to say that if a lower ranked team qualified, they would take the place of the seeded team they knocked out. So, Pakistan are out, Ireland and Zimbabwe are looking at D1.

Cricket sometimes doesnt help itself in confusing folk further!

mikeruurds

The last 3 games for Ireland (should they go through) would be rough going... 3 games in 6 days :eek:

mikeruurds

DMC wrote:

I really don't think that the ICC bargained for this scenario. When I read that piece I pasted initally on the ICC website, IIRC it went on further to say that if a lower ranked team qualified, they would take the place of the seeded team they knocked out. So, Pakistan are out, Ireland and Zimbabwe are looking at D1.

Cricket sometimes doesnt help itself in confusing folk further!

If you think beyond rankings and rather turn to logic then what you are saying makes perfect sense.

DMC

If I remember the draw for the group stages right, the 8 top ranked teams were seeded into the groups. England were specifally seeded in such a way that the ICC knew they would draw a crowd from Blighty.

You couldnt make it up!

DMC

mike, I've got it.

From the BBC Schedule

If any seeded team does not finish in the top two in their group, the non-seeded team qualifying will take their allotted place in the Super Eight fixture list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4699023.stm (at the Super 8 part)

Its also on the Wikipedia page too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Cricket_World_Cup#Super_8

If these two teams do qualify they will be seeded in position 1 or 2 as specified regardless of whether they finish first or second in their group. For example, if South Africa win Group A and Australia come second, for the purposes of the Super Eights, South Africa will still be A2 and Australia will be A1.

If these two teams do not qualify from their group they will be replaced in their indicative position by the team that qualifies instead of them. For example, if Scotland qualify instead of Australia, Scotland will become A1.

And that table on that wiki link has the Windies as D2.

D1 it is then. Phew!

county

come on lads,get it together;)

mikeruurds

DMC wrote:

mike, I've got it.

From the BBC Schedule

"If any seeded team does not finish in the top two in their group, the non-seeded team qualifying will take their allotted place in the Super Eight fixture list."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4699023.stm (at the Super 8 part)

D1 it is then. Phew!

Now all fans reading this site can purchase the correct tickets

DMC

mikeruurds wrote:

Now all fans reading this site can purchase the correct tickets

And my sanity is restored!