Passports Please

mountainyman

If you were hypothetically on a coach at Dublin Port and a Guard boarded and asked for passports; is it necessary to produce one. Or indeed ANY form of identification?

MM

timmywex

you have not begun to leave the country so you don't need a passport!

Hagar

A request for ID in the circumstances doesn't seem un-reasonable however technically no passport is required for an Irish Citizen travelling between Britain and Ireland. Although quite how you prove that you are an Irish Citizen without producing a passport has always puzzled me.


Just a personal opinion, not to be construed as legal advice. This opinion has no monetary value but may be exchanged for another opinion of equal or lesser value if one is available.

seamus

mountainyman wrote:

If you were hypothetically on a coach at Dublin Port and a Guard boarded and asked for passports; is it necessary to produce one. Or indeed ANY form of identification?

MM

Depends on if you're coming or leaving.

You're also obliged to identify yourself to a Garda when asked, so although he can't demand a passport specifically, he can demand identification.

maidhc

seamus wrote:

Depends on if you're coming or leaving.

You're also obliged to identify yourself to a Garda when asked, so although he can't demand a passport specifically, he can demand identification.

A guard can ask you you name and addrees, but
You don't have to tell him (provided you are not in charge of a motor vehicle)
He can't arrest you for no reason other than to ascertain your identity if you are going about your lawful business (although with the McDowell regime this could change at any second).

In re travelling to the UK.
No passport is required, due to the Common Travel Agreement, but you may need to prove your nationality, as only nationals of the UK & Ireland may avail of it. If you have a thick dub/cork/cavan accent this should suffice! The gardaí however shouldn't be interested though in people leaving.

Cake Fiend

seamus wrote:

You're also obliged to identify yourself to a Garda when asked, so although he can't demand a passport specifically, he can demand identification.

Do you have a reference for this? (Not disputing, just curious about it)

Tom Young

To continue on a little from Maidhc's post ..

UK and Ireland are non-Schengen agreement countries. Schengen is an EU agreement upholding, in effect, free movement of persons without passport control. So you can come from a UK flight and show a boarding card stub at Dublin, if asked, come from France or Germany for example and prepare to show your passport. Per Maidhc's above, there is an agreement in place between UK and Ireland.

One of the most incredible things I have seen in Dublin Airport is a sign that reads "You are now on US soil" the reality is somewhat different.

Anyway, I am not sure of the basis for the question but the topic is a little unclear to many. If in doubt, carry a passport and say a prayer that the current politico's don't remove more liberty.

Tom