Is there anyone who doesnt smoke cannabis?

kreuzberger

allabouteve wrote: »

Don't smoke - weed or tobacco, don't have any interest in it, possibly due to the fact that when, (in my experience) even intelligent people of my acquaintance smoke it turns them into idiots with the added disadvantage of believing they're riveting company. Detest the company of drunks for the same reason. Two glasses of wine is my limit, hate the feeling of being out of control anyway... and yes, before anyone asks, the view from my moral high ground is fabulous!

I Kicked alcohol largely into touch a few years back and enjoy the change immensely . Nowadays ill only touch it when Im on holiday , christmas , summer vacation , maybe St Pats . And even then I'll only bother if a decent beer is available - erdinger , Hoegaarden etc - pretty much chemical free with negligible hangover .. Which ill still alternate with a good coffee if i feel its getting too much and im sliding into stupidsville .
The sweet smell of superiority is great from the moral high ground as well as the view .

allabouteve

kreuzberger wrote: »

I Kicked alcohol largely into touch a few years back and enjoy the change immensely . Nowadays ill only touch it when Im on holiday , christmas , summer vacation , maybe St Pats . And even then I'll only bother if a decent beer is available - erdinger , Hoegaarden etc - pretty much chemical free with negligible hangover .. Which ill still alternate with a good coffee if i feel its getting too much and im sliding into stupidsville .
The sweet smell of superiority is great from the moral high ground as well as the view .

Nice to know I'm not alone...........! For what it's worth I'm sure that both you and I are better company for it!

kreuzberger

My first alcohol free night at a do that went on till 4 in the morning convinced me its much better to avoid the stuff . After 2 or 3 pints most people are just idiots . After a binge their company is simply impossible to endure . The binge culture in this country is truly depressing .

allabouteve

allabouteve wrote: »

For what it's worth I'm sure that both you and I are better company for it!

I know alcoholics and drug addicts who are the most wonderful company. I know people who sip one coffee all evening and I'd rather stick a fork in my knee than endure their boring company.

kreuzberger

Deleted User wrote: »

I know alcoholics and drug addicts who are the most wonderful company. I know people who sip one coffee all evening and I'd rather stick a fork in my knee than endure their boring company.

when your sober there is absolutely nothing more boring than a drunk . I used to think it was great crack but that was just because i was drunk , and when you are drunk you are clinically brain damged untill you sober up . im missing nothing and having a much better time . No hangovers , no regrets or apologies , no shameful awakenings , no half week depressions . Great stuff . Ive more money , dont miss any work , and am more attractive to the opposite sex . I love it and wouldnt go back .

JC 2K3

^What's the difference between having great craic and thinking you're having great craic because you're drunk?

When I want to have serious conversations, I stay sober. When I want to have a night of mindless, yet harmless, stupidity, I get drunk.

keen

kreuzberger wrote: »

when your sober there is absolutely nothing more boring than a drunk . I used to think it was great crack but that was just because i was drunk , and when you are drunk you are clinically brain damged untill you sober up . im missing nothing and having a much better time . No hangovers , no regrets or apologies , no shameful awakenings , no half week depressions . Great stuff . Ive more money , dont miss any work , and am more attractive to the opposite sex . I love it and wouldnt go back .

I'd say there's a fair few drinkers that are on more money then you, I'd also say that there are a fair few drinkers that are better looking the you.

Not everyone that drinks regrets the night before and gets drunk enough to wake up with a hangover.

And as a drinker I've never had half week depression.

Kold

I prefer smoke to booze but still drink a fair bit just to be sociable loike.

Nothing better than a night in playing Smash Bros and 2 joints doing the rounds at all times tbh.

kreuzberger

kreuzberger wrote: »

when your sober there is absolutely nothing more boring than a drunk .

And when one is out and having a good time, there is nothing more boring than the sober sensible person wgho won't cut loose.

kreuzberger wrote: »

and am more attractive to the opposite sex

They all go for the guys sipping fanta alright!

You may be great company, I don't know you, and I'm not being critical of you at all, in fact I admire your ability to stay clear of stuff that frankly does a lot of damage to the body. And in fairness to you it was another poster who made the connection between good company and substances. I just don't accept that whether one is good company is determined by whether or not they drink. I find intelligent people who have a laugh good company, stupid people bad company, that's it. Some of the former that I am friendly with take everything and anything short of heroin.

allabouteve

JC 2K3 wrote: »

^What's the difference between having great craic and thinking you're having great craic because you're drunk?

When I want to have serious conversations, I stay sober. When I want to have a night of mindless, yet harmless, stupidity, I get drunk.

Sober doesn't always equal serious.....

TerrorFirmer

Smoked a few times and didn't like it at all....aside from those few obligatory tests wouldn't ever again.

JC 2K3

allabouteve wrote: »

Sober doesn't always equal serious.....

Lol, well try this then:

When I want to have sober fun, I stay sober, when I want to have drunken fun, I get drunk. (And when I want to have fun in another state of mind, I might take a different drug)

It's all about variety and trying new things. Life's too short etc.

Toto Wolfcastle

Drugs make people dig up year old threads!

Seriously though, I stay away from drugs, and I drink about twice a year. (Although I will be told that alcohol is a drug, but I'll keep it separate!) It's a personal choice. Each to their own.

keen

janeybabe wrote: »

Drugs make people dig up year old threads!

Seriously though, I stay away from drugs, and I drink about twice a year. (Although I will be told that alcohol is a drug, but I'll keep it separate!) It's a personal choice. Each to their own.

Why would you keep it seperate when it's not :S

Toto Wolfcastle

keen wrote: »

Why would you keep it seperate when it's not :S

Separating the legal from the illegal I suppose! As I said, each to their own.

kreuzberger

keen wrote: »

I'd say there's a fair few drinkers that are on more money then you, I'd also say that there are a fair few drinkers that are better looking the you.

Not everyone that drinks regrets the night before and gets drunk enough to wake up with a hangover.

And as a drinker I've never had half week depression.

light weights

keen

kreuzberger wrote: »

light weights

haha. you must be a zero weight, do you float?

Phantasm

CiaranC wrote: »

So you've never had a cup of tea or taken an anadin for a headache?

Tea is a drug?

kreuzberger

Deleted User wrote: »

And when one is out and having a good time, there is nothing more boring than the sober sensible person wgho won't cut loose.

theres nothing more boring than someone acting the boliix in my opinion . I have plently of crack , just dont get drunk .

They all go for the guys sipping fanta alright!

if your in a fit state your generally in a fit state for all sorts

You may be great company, I don't know you, and I'm not being critical of you at all, in fact I admire your ability to stay clear of stuff that frankly does a lot of damage to the body. And in fairness to you it was another poster who made the connection between good company and substances. I just don't accept that whether one is good company is determined by whether or not they drink

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i have found over the years with a lot of experience that people who are good company when sober arent usually as good company when drunk . And I dont just mean myself . The amount of work colleagues who come up to me now they know I dont drink and tell me the same feckin tales of woe I used to have only confirms my view . When people are telling me they wish they could give it up then its obvious a lot of people have problems with it . It affects their quality of life rather than enhances it . The amount of regret and stupidity is unbelievable . The amount of people I know now whove followed my example or that Ive heard have given up drink convinces me there is a serious problem out there . Not alcohol itself per se but the manner in which we Irish people consume it , or abuse it . Of course thats a generalisation but ..its a problem for lot of people and thankfully a problem ive left behind .

I find intelligent people who have a laugh good company, stupid people bad company, that's it. Some of the former that I am friendly with take everything and anything short of heroin.

then your just lucky i guess . Ive found intelligent people just act stupid with drink and end up doing and saying things they later regret .

helimachoptor

JC 2K3 wrote: »

Why?

Ah I just dont, I prefer my own body to handle an infection.

I had pneumonia for a month when I was 15, kept going to work and playing football. In the end the mother brought me to the the hospital and the doc was convinced I had a death wish. Kept in hospital for a few days after that

Adyx

JC 2K3 wrote: »

Well, alcohol abuse will likely cause chronic addiction and death, whereas LSD abuse will cause no physical damage, and it's quite hard to abuse, as you won't get very strong effects if you take it again a day or two after you've taken it.

Of course, if one is prone to mental illness or has psychological problems, then overuse of LSD will likely be bad for this person's mental health, but it won't kill them.

Considering alcohol has a higher addiction potential and is potentially fatal, I'd have to say LSD would probably be safer to abuse, not that I'd recommend it.

Of course you're right. LSD is not the kind of drug that is commonly abused. But the point I was making is that abuse of a drug is still abuse regardless of what drug it is. My original post was never about the physical effects of such and such drug. I don't abuse drugs so I don't suffer any major harmful effects and my post was about me. I said alcohol, tobacco and weed are fine because I tolerate them in moderation but I won't tolerate "harder" class A drugs. But its more for the psychological effects than the physical. If people want to f**k themselves up its their own problem.

board om

kreuzberger wrote: »

not an educated choice , no. They were told smoking it was harmless as opposed to injecting . And after a few goes smoking it the issue of choice pretty much went out the window . As did smoking it , their bodies craved more than smoking could deliver so injection was then necessary to avoid the hell of heroin cravings. Your not suggesting people made the choice of chronic addiction to heroin surely ?

I can not find one single sentence in this entire post that is correct. it is just a whole load of assumptions on a subject you obviously know absolutely nothing about. there is no point in making statements on something you dont understand yourself in the frst place.


regarding your posts on everyone who drinks being boring idiots and how you are so much better in every way because you dont drink, i think this says more about you and the company you keep than anything. we all seem to be able to drink and enjoy ourselves and we all know people who drink and enjoy themselves. not every night out drinking results in a binge or in a hangover the next day or in people acting like idiots. obviously you just associate with a serious amount of idiots with drinking problems. maybe giving up alcohol wasnt the answer after all, maybe you should be socialising in better company.

allabouteve

board om wrote: »

I can not find one single sentence in this entire post that is correct. it is just a whole load of assumptions on a subject you obviously know absolutely nothing about. there is no point in making statements on something you dont understand yourself in the frst place.


regarding your posts on everyone who drinks being boring idiots and how you are so much better in every way because you dont drink, i think this says more about you and the company you keep than anything. we all seem to be able to drink and enjoy ourselves and we all know people who drink and enjoy themselves. not every night out drinking results in a binge or in a hangover the next day or in people acting like idiots. obviously you just associate with a serious amount of idiots with drinking problems. maybe giving up alcohol wasnt the answer after all, maybe you should be socialising in better company.

A little harsh maybe? Not all heroin addicts knew what they were getting into surely? And I think he meant that HIS LIFE was better since quitting drinking, not that HE was better than drinkers.......more that you don't have to drink to enjoy yourself.

kreuzberger

board om wrote: »

I can not find one single sentence in this entire post that is correct. it is just a whole load of assumptions on a subject you obviously know absolutely nothing about. there is no point in making statements on something you dont understand yourself in the frst place.

I do know quite a bit about it actually , these being the accounts related to me by long time heroin addicts who were victims of the Dunne familys first foray into the heroin trade , parents and siblings of addicts and former addicts also . As well as anti drug activists from the south inner city where i used to live for some years .

regarding your posts on everyone who drinks being boring idiots

to a sober person a drunk is generally a boring idiot , there isnt much sense out of them

and how you are so much better in every way because you dont drink, i think this says more about you and the company you keep than anything. we all seem to be able to drink and enjoy ourselves and we all know people who drink and enjoy themselves. not every night out drinking results in a binge or in a hangover the next day or in people acting like idiots.

i qualified my points with

Of course thats a generalisation but ..its a problem for lot of people

Pointing out i feel much the better for it doesnt mean im better than anyone else .

obviously you just associate with a serious amount of idiots with drinking problems.maybe giving up alcohol wasnt the answer after all, maybe you should be socialising in better company

no , i continue to socialise with people who drink and up until the 3 pint limit they are generally fine , its after that they become boring. I just notice drunken idiots more that im sober and have much less tolerance than i had before.

board om

I posted this on the 'marijuana march' thread already but i am putting it here as well because it is relevant to this thread too.


I saw this on Sky News earlier today and I thought it appropiate for this thread. it is about the Coffee Shops in Holland, Maastricht to be precise, and i think it really shows both sides of the argument.

on one side they are saying that taking a relaxed approach to soft drugs and having cannabis available in coffee shops really works for them becuase they have fewer cannabis users than the European average.

on the other side they are saying it causes some problems because they have drug dealers trying to sell hard drugs in the areas where the coffee shops are located as they know there are going to be drug users there.

so i think it really has a good points for both sides of the argument.

http://video.news.sky.com/?videoSourceID=1315625&flashURL=feeds/skynews/latest/flash/drugs_milam_p6571_100508.flv

nix

kreuzberger wrote: »

not an educated choice , no. They were told smoking it was harmless as opposed to injecting . And after a few goes smoking it the issue of choice pretty much went out the window . As did smoking it , their bodies craved more than smoking could deliver so injection was then necessary to avoid the hell of heroin cravings. Your not suggesting people made the choice of chronic addiction to heroin surely ?

No im saying that, if i was to try something new out id do my homework, regardless of what some random yahooo tells me ya know ?

And yes id say alot of people inject it first before even smoking it, some people just dont set a limit on what drugs they take

Ciaran500

Phantasm wrote: »

Tea is a drug?

Tea contains caffeine which is a drug.

godtabh

Moonbaby wrote: »

Bit of a stretch there Kearnser.

First off you spelt my name wrong but thats what drugs do to you my sun.

Second off if you say my farmers* tan you would have no problems qualifying that statements.


* I'm not a farmer

Ivan

Well, in Moonbaby's defense, you do have an unusual boards name.

emma peel

I guess I'm a degenerate Canadian then. After reading this whole thread, I am amazed that so few people have ever taken recreational drugs -- most of us consume drugs on a regular basis whether we realize it or not -- and that so many have such a harsh attitude toward them.

I used to smoke more when I was younger, although I always followed good advice and stayed away from any drug resembling white powder. I now rarely ever smoke pot. But since I live in a place where some of the best bud in the world is grown, every once in a while I sucuumb. And I don't feel the least bit guilty. I consider it on the same level as drinking good wine or Scotch, and I always have a good time.

I think marijuana should be treated the same way as alcohol -- an age limit should be enforced, and it should be sold legally and taxed. That would keep organized crime and gangs out of the picture. If it wasn't for pot in B.C., most of the province's rural economy would collapse. It's kept whole towns and regions going for a long time -- it's the second-largest industry after forestry, even if it is underground.