Is there anyone who doesnt smoke cannabis?

Hoops1888

I would honestly say though if you havent tried (If your over 18) you should maybe try it maybe even once to see what it's like. Youre having a bad day sit smoke a joint, it gives you abit of time to yourself as Bob Marley would say.

Very true you dont see stoner's around the town looking for a fight drink make's you that way smoke wouldn't and its not like you would rob someone to get it.

Bob Marley talking about the herb and drink go 4Mins into it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmIJQusogqw

Anyone who smokes interested In a day out? http://www.wwmmireland.blogspot.com/

DarkJager

Naked Lepper wrote:

Actually I want to change my last comment, instead of 25 years I think all drug users whether theyre moderate social drug users or heroin addicts on the street,should be given lethal injection after serving a 10 year sentence in mountjoy.

thatll learn them for sure.

I think you're just seriously ill informed, with grossly misguided opinions. Lethal injections for moderate social drug users? You sound as if YOU are the one that needs to be locked away for 10 years...preferrably in a mental hospital.

brianthebard

megadodge wrote:

Don't go near the stuff and from what I've seen the majority would probably have tried it but only a small minority are regular users.

I'm neither a farmer nor uni graduate.

I didn't know farmers smoke pot!1!

1der

DarkJager wrote:

I think you're just seriously ill informed, with grossly misguided opinions. Lethal injections for moderate social drug users? You sound as if YOU are the one that needs to be locked away for 10 years...preferrably in a mental hospital.

For the sake of this thread maintaning any valuable points just don't even bother replying to comments like that. It will only bring all arguments back to 1982!

I think its safe to say that the following statements can be regarded as FACT so far as any argument goes:
1. Alcohol is a much worse drug than cannabis
2. Cannabis is a bit dodgy at the moment due to the fact that it is illegal
and it is criminals who control the flow of it.
3. There is no issue with the strength of cannibas in regard to it's legality, but concerns about users going on to harder drugs is maybe a concern. (i.e. would cocain replace weed as the 'soft' drug)

biko

I am a uni grad and an intellectual .
Have smoked occasionally before but stopped it, just makes me stupid and dull. Now I drink which is sooo much better :rolleyes:

The Irony Of It All

Pherekydes

I never tried anything harder than a ciggie, and apart from my sister, who went a little bonkers as a teen, I don't know anyone who did (try stuff), either.

1der

Slow coach wrote:

I never tried anything harder than a ciggie, and apart from my sister,

You tried your sister???
thats sick man..

Zaph

I've no particular issue with it, but as a non-smoker anyway smoking a joint just isn't something I could physically do.

runswithascript

Steyr wrote:

Never smoked and never touched Drugs of any type,:D i just would not lower myself to that level.

CiaranC wrote:

lol, never touched drugs of any type, good one.

Steyr wrote:

Im serious.

I think he's pointing out you probably use coffee/tea/coca-cola (caffeine), alcohol or paracetemol but I'm pretty sure you meant you never used recreational drugs unless you're one of these fanatical christians that won't touch a paracetemol. I find it very admirable to abstain from recreational drug use, not to the extent I think you're a better person than I am, just I wish it was the road I had taken instead.

Gyalist wrote:

I am not Irish but I have lived here for 20+ years and I'm always being asked if I have anything. It really pisses me off!!

Maybe you have the look of a drug dealer about you! :P

DarkJager wrote:

Final Note: People who say there should be mandatory sentences of 25 years for anyone who touches drugs should be locked away themselves. Its idiotic moral high ground thinking at its worst.

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic - if not I'm with you.

Personally I hadn't smoked hash for a few years and started again recently before stopping last week. I had no motivation, all I did was smoke hash all day and lie around, hardly leaving the house, missing college, falling behind at college, blowing friends and family off, getting paranoid and depressed - I guess it's just not for me or maybe I just have a problem with moderation? Each to their own - it affects different people different ways.

Overheal

Beeswax, turpentine, milk powder, ketamine, boot polish, henna, pine resin, aspirin, animal turds, ground coffee, barbiturates, glues and dyes plus carcinogenic solvents such as Toluene and Benzene

This is what happens under prohibition. If your pint down the pub contained any of these nasty things wouldn't you complain? Of course you would, well now its time to complain about polluted cannabis supplies.
DON'T SMOKE SOAP
DON'T BUY SOAP
DON'T SELL SOAP

The government is well aware of this situation and seems happy to expose the millions of cannabis users to dangers which simple quality controls could eliminate, but of course, that means accepting they're wrong and legalising cannabis.

Hash can be a nasty, vile substance. Depending on where you are the quality the dealers provide can be anything from decent to woeful. This sort of thing is by far the greatest danger to cannabis use in this country.

I am fully for the legalisation and moderation of cannabis, because these quality issues can then be eliminated. Alcohol prohibition in the states had the same problems: cheap spirits that ended up killing people due to poor distillery methods.
However, cannabis has as of yet not killed anyone through direct use, unlike alcohol, paracetomol, heroin, etc. which can seriously damage your liver, and result in death within hours.

I do not advocate the use of drugs in critical working environments, such as industry, and most especially the operation of any vehicle.

Also, anyone who disdains the use of recreational drugs: if you drink alcohol, you are using a recreational drug. It had been prohibited, and then re-legalised, and is now considered to be of a high quality. There are countless problems with the abuse of alcohol, but there are very few voices speaking out for its re-prohibition.

Like alcohol, it should be up to the responsible adult user how they take substances. And in terms of Cannabis, the market has reached the developmental stage where the active ingredient, Tetra Hydro Cannabinol, can be extracted for inhalation with near-zero efficiency. In the end run, this means you no longer have to smoke plant/hashish impurites, which are infinitely more harmful to your lung tissue than the THC molecule.

The next stage of development is the legalisation, administration, and commercialisation of Cannabis, and can easily do so by integrating into pub/cafe culture.

Final Note:
Cannabis can still be abused. The introduction of excessive amounts of dopamine can adversely affect your coordination, mood, etc. the same way as alcohol, for example, and unlike other narcotics Cannabis is non-chemically-addictive: it is the choice of the user how dependant they are upon it.

Smoke with moderation.

humanji

Overheal wrote:

However, cannabis has as of yet not killed anyone through direct use, unlike alcohol, paracetomol, heroin, etc. which can seriously damage your liver, and result in death within hours.

In fairness, it's not the use of these that kill, but the abuse of them that kills.

Pherekydes

1der wrote:

You tried your sister???
thats sick man..

If you laid off the sh!t your reading comprehension might improve.

Clarehobo

In reply to original question : tried it, does nothing for me & none of my circle of friends smoke either - so there are lots of people that don't smoke cannabis.

1der wrote:

For the sake of this thread maintaning any valuable points just don't even bother replying to comments like that. It will only bring all arguments back to 1982!

I think its safe to say that the following statements can be regarded as FACT so far as any argument goes:
1. Alcohol is a much worse drug than cannabis
2. Cannabis is a bit dodgy at the moment due to the fact that it is illegal
and it is criminals who control the flow of it.
3. There is no issue with the strength of cannibas in regard to it's legality, but concerns about users going on to harder drugs is maybe a concern. (i.e. would cocain replace weed as the 'soft' drug)

In reply to those comments above by OP:
1. Please present information on why alcohol is worse than cannabis:
Cannabis induces psychosis in certain people. Alcohol does same. Both can cause dependency in users. How do you determine which is worse than the other? Have you carried out, or can you quote, any sort of medical or social impact study for both type of drugs? You cannot say something is FACT unless you present facts...
2. It is 'dodgy' not only because as you pointed out it is controlled by criminals, but also because of it's side-effects & it's anti-social effects on communities.
3. This is now the main concern in the UK where they are considering revoking the de-criminalisation of possession of cannabis for personal use

If you are going to make sweeping statements and are implying they are fact, please present the facts to back them up, otherwise present them as your opinion - there is a big difference

Gyalist

Originally posted by dusf

Maybe you have the look of a drug dealer about you! :P

It seems so. I spent my early life in the Caribbean where cannabis is easily available and I wasn't interested then and I'm not in the least interested in it now

Ciaran500

Clarehobo wrote:

In reply to those comments above by OP:
1. Please present information on why alcohol is worse than cannabis:
Cannabis induces psychosis in certain people. Alcohol does same. Both can cause dependency in users. How do you determine which is worse than the other? Have you carried out, or can you quote, any sort of medical or social impact study for both type of drugs? You cannot say something is FACT unless you present facts...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/23/nalcohol123.xml

Pherekydes

Ciaran500 wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/23/nalcohol123.xml

It still is not fact. It's just some scientists' opinions.

Ciaran500

lol

Is gravity not fact then?

humanji

Ciaran500 wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/23/nalcohol123.xml

And that article says that cannibas is more dangerous that ecstacy too, so all 3 should be illegal

Zebra3

I don't smoke cannabis, but I still feel it should be legalised.

I don't smoke cigs either.

The smell of people's breath is disgusting if they smoke, but that's their problem.

1der

Clarehobo wrote:

In reply to original question : tried it, does nothing for me & none of my circle of friends smoke either - so there are lots of people that don't smoke cannabis.



In reply to those comments above by OP:
1. Please present information on why alcohol is worse than cannabis:
Cannabis induces psychosis in certain people. Alcohol does same. Both can cause dependency in users. How do you determine which is worse than the other? Have you carried out, or can you quote, any sort of medical or social impact study for both type of drugs? You cannot say something is FACT unless you present facts...
2. It is 'dodgy' not only because as you pointed out it is controlled by criminals, but also because of it's side-effects & it's anti-social effects on communities.
3. This is now the main concern in the UK where they are considering revoking the de-criminalisation of possession of cannabis for personal use

If you are going to make sweeping statements and are implying they are fact, please present the facts to back them up, otherwise present them as your opinion - there is a big difference

good points hobo. its good that your presenting valid points and your totaly right that they are not FACTs but seriously do you honestly think that alcohol is not a worse drug than cannabis?? and even if you do think so, do you agree that it is a debatable subject and even if it is worse it cannot be so much worse that it should be illegal while alcohol is not??

Pherekydes

Ciaran500 wrote:

lol

Is gravity not fact then?

Why? Do some scientists have opinions about it? Just because some of their opinions are not fact doesn't mean they all are.

LMAO.

Clarehobo

Thanks for that Ciaran500

I am actually well aware of that study.
If various drugs were legalised, and people abused them to the same level as most people abuse alcohol in this society in their day to day lives, I wonder what the ramifications would be?

Also, just to clarify, I'm not a person who thinks 'drugs are bad, mmmkay' : My point was that there were no actual facts presented by 1der eventhough he/she stated that they were facts

Ruu_Old

Never have and if anyone else wants to then that is their business.

Ciaran500

I'm sure you could find some idiot with an opinion about gravity. The point I was making is that technically everything is just opinion. There is overwhelming evidence for gravity but we could still be wrong or not know everything about it.

NutJob

Theres no such thing as gravity the world just sucks

BA BUM TSH

1der

Clarehobo wrote:

Thanks for that Ciaran500

I am actually well aware of that study.
If various drugs were legalised, and people abused them to the same level as most people abuse alcohol in this society in their day to day lives, I wonder what the ramifications would be?

Also, just to clarify, I'm not a person who thinks 'drugs are bad, mmmkay' : My point was that there were no actual facts presented by 1der eventhough he/she stated that they were facts

well then, are you jus basically someone who likes to sound intelligent because that's not very relevant to the initial purpose of the thread anyway. To be honest I only said that so that people would not be making stupid little petty points like this one.
One good question brought up in this discussion though is:
Do you think that cannibas should be legal soley based on the fact that it is (probably) not as bad a drug as alcohol? Or maybe the question should be on the legality of alcohol.....

Kinetic^

1der wrote:

Is there anyone who doesnt smoke cannabis???

Never have, never will......I'm cool I am!!!

Drugs are bad mmmmkay!!!!

Clarehobo

Had a great reply for 1der but got logged out:rolleyes:

Anyways...
Am not anti-drugs, pro-alcohol, etc...

Enjoy my drink but know when to stop nowadays

The only drug I cannot live without at the mo is caffeine & god help the world if they make that illegal - I'll be a right b1tch!

I agree alcohol can be extremely harmful when abused: same with anything to be honest

1der wrote:

well then, are you jus basically someone who likes to sound intelligent because that's not very relevant to the initial purpose of the thread anyway. To be honest I only said that so that people would not be making stupid little petty points like this one.
One good question brought up in this discussion though is:
Do you think that cannibas should be legal soley based on the fact that it is (probably) not as bad a drug as alcohol? Or maybe the question should be on the legality of alcohol.....

Getting a bit off the point of this whole thread with that comment at start & a wee bit of a personal attack to boot...nice!

Anyways... In my opinion, the most logical debate would be about the legality of alcohol & nicotine & every other legal drug which people abuse, and their impact on society as a whole.
I am not of the opinion that it is a positive thing for society to legalise even more drugs just because alcohol is 'as bad a drug' as cannabis.

That would be another thread I presume rather than part of this who doesn't smoke cannabis survey thread.

Malteaser!

i've never tried it and never plan to either!

BeatNikDub

I dont smoke it.
Im 25 now and from the ages of 19 to about 22 i smoked it pretty regularily but i also have a history of depression and smoking the ganja just was NOT helping. So i gave it up along any other things that werent helping.

I reckon now if I had even a drag id be knocked out!

Ive nothing against it though whatsoever. I can see it making some people quite lazy and rids them of their ambition but thats more something lacking in their personality than the drug itself.

I know plenty of people who smoke it on a regular basis and live perfectly normal , enlightened lives!