Is there anyone who doesnt smoke cannabis?

Pherekydes

pclancy wrote:

Perfectly sums up my smoking life and opinions now as well. Its less harmfull then a cup of coffee...

You're dead right. I often go ape after drinking a cup of coffee and smash the house up. Mind you, I tend not to fall asleep at the wheel after coffee, but I've never tried weed and driving so I better not express an opinion about that, eh Wertz?

Wertz

Slow coach wrote:

but I've never tried weed and driving

You should, I find it the perfect antidote to the M50. Endless tailbacks and frustration turn to times of quiet contemplation and inner harmony.
Purely as a means of eliminating road rage and making Dublin radio stations half bearable, I'd recommend that joint rolling should be part of the driver theory test.

Slow Coach wrote:

so I better not express an opinion about that, eh Wertz?

Yeah best not, you only attract smart arse answers...


BTW I'm pretty sure that pclancy was talking about the physical damage to the body from the caffeine content in your average coffee, rather than any psychological effects from either substance...I don't think anyone on here is recommending people being stoned whilst driving.

pclancy

Yeah i was talking about physical effects on the body. But theres no real point in these discussions because people either are open minded about smoking, or not. Its everyones right to have an opinion and theres no point in trying to change either sides mind, no matter how many facts are thrown in. Its like likeing a certain band, or not, its down to peoples personal beliefs and experiances. I just wish those that chose to smoke without harm to others werent made out as criminals. Such is life.

Believe it or not an apple is better at waking you up when tired then a cup of coffee....

CathyMoran

JC 2K3 wrote:

What the hell has Codeine, an opiate and a COMPLETELY different drug to cannabis got to do with this discussion?

I am just saying that the side effects from a legally prescribed drug that I do not want to have to take but have to for pain relief are bad enough.

mikemac

Tried it once or twice in college but didn't do much for me.
TBH if I wanted cannabis now, I wouldn't even know where to go to buy it. I don't know anyone selling but I wouldn't mind trying it out.

I would agree with the posters than condemn alcohol. Alcohol is without a doubt the biggest drug in this country and look at the damage it causes: drink driving, domestic abuse, fighting, etc.

Gaspode

1der wrote:

Is there anyone who doesnt smoke cannabis???

Me. Why? Is I bad?:o

Dave!

I have done quite regularly, but I've gone off it over the past few years. I actually prefer a pint to a joint now. Having said that, if the circumstances are right and there's some cannabis present, then I will have a J. Didn't anticipate my tolerance being so low when I was offered one last summer, and had a bit of a bad experience, which included falling, sweating, and panicking Now I usually turn it down at parties, but if I'm staying in someone's house for example, I'd be happy to chill out with a doob-linger. And I'm gonna be in Amsterdam for a few days this summer So I'll have to avail of the produce while I'm there. But I'll take it easy

mloc

micmclo wrote:

Alcohol is without a doubt the biggest drug in this country and look at the damage it causes: drink driving, domestic abuse, fighting, etc.

I agree alcohol abuse is a terrible problem in this country, but it does not cause drink driving, domestic abuse or fighting. The causes of those problems are social and personality based, alcohol merely acts as cover-all excuse for those poignant examples of irresponsible and violent behaviour.

mike65

Never tried and frankly never will if I've got to my age without being tempted.

Don't drink either or smoke tobacco.

Mike.

Pherekydes

Wertz wrote:

You should, I find it the perfect antidote to the M50.

I avoid the M50 when it's in car-park mode.

Endless tailbacks and frustration turn to times of quiet contemplation and inner harmony. Purely as a means of eliminating road rage and making Dublin radio stations half bearable, I'd recommend that joint rolling should be part of the driver theory test.

I can manage all this without the aid of mind-altering drugs. :rolleyes:

I don't think anyone on here is recommending people being stoned whilst driving.

But if you haven't tried it how can you express an opinion on it? :rolleyes:

RoyalMarine

tried it on 3 occasions. cant say it did too much for me.
ok, once it gave me a serious case of laughter, and that was good, but the other 2 times i just felt a little tired and went to bed early.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, it does no harm. i have no problem with it, as long as its not used by the under agers.

JC 2K3

CathyMoran wrote:

I am just saying that the side effects from a legally prescribed drug that I do not want to have to take but have to for pain relief are bad enough.

And this applies to cannabis in what way?

l3rian

its no good, it can ruin ambition... but if you have no ambition, then smoke away lazy boys

Flukey

I wouldn't touch the stuff.

honru

I used to smoke block/weed quite often as a kid but there's only so much you can take when the quality is nada. The beginning of the end was going to the Netherlands and sampling the good stuff; just couldn't go back. Even the "premium" stuff here can't compare.

So I no longer smoke. However, I will gladly indulge in a spliff or two with a cup of coffee the next time I'm in Holland.

Jimmy Hoffa

The dreaded weed lived in holland for 3 years 97 yo 2000 last night there gota horrible turn.A whitey of huge proportions really though iwas going to die heart pounding' legs went numb begged to go to the hospital thankfully an hour later calmed down palpatations stopped and i fell asleep no more fukin weed but.I lived and worked with people who smoked every spare minute they could lost touch with reality never socialised and lived in cuckoo land.

brianthebard

Wertz wrote:

BTW I'm pretty sure that pclancy was talking about the physical damage to the body from the caffeine content in your average coffee, rather than any psychological effects from either substance...I don't think anyone on here is recommending people being stoned whilst driving.

And what exactly is the physical damage of caffiene? I've seen plenty of evidence for its continued use, specifically the cup of coffee mentioned, but I don't think I've ever read anything about physical damage. But maybe you are getting some other kind of coffee from your dealer.... :rolleyes:

Donegal Lass

i dont!

Cormic

I had only ever done it a couple of times here in Ireland. Most times I was also drunk and this did not make me feel very well.

I tried it in Amsterdam three times. The first and second times were fine, I got fairly mellow but the third time I had a horrific experience. I ended up staying awake in my bed for the entire night watching dodgy Dutch television because every time I fell asleep I woke with apneas. This terrified me enough to probably never do it again.

Lesson learned.

Clarehobo wrote:

If various drugs were legalised, and people abused them to the same level as most people abuse alcohol in this society in their day to day lives, I wonder what the ramifications would be?

I have not seen any replies to this question.

Crucifix

brianthebard wrote:

And what exactly is the physical damage of caffiene? I've seen plenty of evidence for its continued use, specifically the cup of coffee mentioned, but I don't think I've ever read anything about physical damage. But maybe you are getting some other kind of coffee from your dealer.... :rolleyes:

It can cause stomach ulcers.
However, if I were to hazard an uneducated guess, I'd say the damage to your lungs from smoking a joint is probably on par if not greater than the damage to your stomach by a cup of coffee.

NutJob

OP any chance of putting a poll on the thread?

dbnavan

Never smoked, used to drink but gave that up, I think the OP is way off I could probably count the amount of people i know smoke herb on my fingers

Canis Lupus

A medium number of my close friends have it regularly and a large majority of ppl I know have tried it or have it every now and then.

I personally use it. It's pretty much the same effects as beer but you don't go crazy. It can be tough watching your diet on it tho which is a pain but it's a good way to make you eat plenty of fruit.

slipss

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarehobo
"If various drugs were legalised, and people abused them to the same level as most people abuse alcohol in this society in their day to day lives, I wonder what the ramifications would be?"

Originally Posted by Cormac
"I have not seen any replies to this question."

The ramifications would be very bad obviously, abuse of anything is clearly a bad idea at any level, but I don't think anyone that replied to this thread is advocating the abuse of anything.

daveirl

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exiot

I would buy it whenever I can, I dont bother go out looking for it like I used to but I still love to sit around with a few friends and have a few laughs. Its not anti-social, its not as if we lock our selves away for days just puffing away.

Different strokes for different folks, I also enjoy pints so best of both worlds

Clarehobo

slipss wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarehobo
"If various drugs were legalised, and people abused them to the same level as most people abuse alcohol in this society in their day to day lives, I wonder what the ramifications would be?"

Originally Posted by Cormac
"I have not seen any replies to this question."

The ramifications would be very bad obviously, abuse of anything is clearly a bad idea at any level, but I don't think anyone that replied to this thread is advocating the abuse of anything.

I'm not saying anyone on this thread is advocating abuse of substances, legal or illegal.

My point was referring back to the study which was linked to the thread by Ciaran500: the study does not seem to take into account the fact that alcohol is a widely used & widely abused drug, whereas cannabis, ecstasy, & various illegal drugs are not so widely abused by the general populace.

If everyone abused the substances listed in the study the way they abuse alcohol in this society(and I am very guilty of this), the findings would be substantially different in my opinion.
But then again a study's findings can always be used to prove what they want it to prove:rolleyes:

As I said before, I'm not anti-drugs. I am not a person who will judge people for advocating the use of drugs.

In my opinion, legalising more drugs won't contribute to society. They need to look at the drugs we currently have available legally & re-assess their impact.

I love my drink but have lost family members to alcohol related illness : I wouldn't be devestated if it was reclassified and restricted.

I don't see governments outlawing it's usage though(unless we become a muslim state).

miamee

1der wrote:

Is there anyone who doesnt smoke cannabis???

Don't know if i am allowed to post this so maybe i might get kicked off but we'll soon find out....

Anyway jus want to know if there is anybody who doesnt smoke cannibas in ireland today.

also jus to make the this thread more interesting:
jus say if you smoke it and what you do
e.g: i smoke and i'm a doctor etc...

I've never smoked cannabis & never will. I have a real problem with smoking & would never do it to my body no matter what it was, I just find it disgusting.

I haven't read all posts yet so I've no idea if I'm standing alone here

CiaranC

Clarehobo wrote:

If everyone abused the substances listed in the study the way they abuse alcohol in this society(and I am very guilty of this), the findings would be substantially different in my opinion.

This point makes my head hurt.

If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle, but she doesnt so she aint.

Rb

Wertz wrote:

I have to chuckle at people on here (and IRL) that say they've smoked it and it never had any affect on them...trust me, if you smoked dope for the first time you'd know about it.

Agreed.

Perhaps they just didn't inhale properly, but even the crappiest of hash available in this country would have some effect (bar hunger) on someone who had not smoked the substance before.

Wertz wrote:

The problem is the potency of the crap we're pawned off with in Ireland....there is very little of the substance which alters you present in the contaminated or low grade hash that makes up the majority of what's for sale or supply out there.

Again, agreed. The majority of the "hash" that floods the markets in this country is extremely poor and absolutely riddled with horrible chemicals, one of the major problems with the drug in this country.

Wertz wrote:

I respect the decision of people not to use drugs (illegal or otherwise) but I distrust the views they hold on drug use due to their abstinence. To have a semi valid opinion on an issue you should at least have minimal experience of it, if you expect your argument to hold sway.

Particularly agree with this. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but the opinion of a person ignorant to the drug, its effects, the markets and users in this country is largely invalid when compared with that of a well informed, perhaps with experience person. An example I used in the past (when talking about the same topic) was that I can have an opinion on African politics, something I know little about, but it will be completely invalid when compared with that of an African politician, or a politics scholar/student. At the end of the day my opinion, unless I've chosen to educate myself in the area, will be ill-informed and largely invalid, but I still have the right to have an opinion in the area.

I've a problem with those with little or no experience, or pure ignorance on the subject, critisising those who chose to smoke cannabis, same as anyone with experience and an extent of education in an area would have with the views or opinions of the ignorant, I suppose.

Wertz wrote:

I also protest society's criminalising me for my choice to use cannabis, especially in light of just how much the alcohol industry in Ireland gets away with and the inherent problems that their end product causes.

Again, agreed.