Skoda Octavia Double Model?

Volvoboy

Why am i still seeing 07 Mk1 octavias around seen a few as taxi's and private cars same situation with the merc S class.





-VB-

maidhc

The Octavia Mk1 is still be sold. It is about 20k, so good value.

colm_mcm

It's called the Octavia "Tour"

unkel

Ah, I didn't know that. The mark I diesel is for sale for just €21k - 2 grand less than the new model with the same engine and similar spec. A taxi man's wet dream

Linky

bazz26

unkel wrote:

Ah, I didn't know that. The mark I diesel is for sale for just €21k - 2 grand less than the new model with the same engine and similar spec. A taxi man's wet dream

Linky

To be honest if I had the extra €2k I'd go with the new model. While the Mk1 was a good car it is now a 11 year old design and showing it. Newer model would be more comfortable, safer, roomier and better to drive. I'd also be of the opinion that you would get a big chunk of that €2k premium back too when you went to sell it on.

Of course taxi drivers might have a different view. BTW the newest Mk1 I have seen was a 2005.

maidhc

bazz26 wrote:

To be honest if I had the extra €2k I'd go with the new model. While the Mk1 was a good car it is now a 11 year old design and showing it. Newer model would be more comfortable, safer, roomier and better to drive. I'd also be of the opinion that you would get a big chunk of that €2k premium back too when you went to sell it on.

Of course taxi drivers might have a different view. BTW the newest Mk1 I have seen was a 2005.

There is at least two 2007 "Tours" in Cork. I'd agree though, it only makes sense if you will never be selling the car, and ferrying around inebriated people at 4 O clock in the morning.

unkel

bazz26 wrote:

I'd also be of the opinion that you would get a big chunk of that €2k premium back too when you went to sell it on

Once the taxi driver is finished with it, the car will probably have 200k+ miles and will be of very little value, be it mark I or mark II

But I agree. From a private owner's point of view it doesn't make much sense

Jip

Just to be a pedant, the old shaped 07 Octavia is based on the mark 2, not the mark 1.

unkel

Jip wrote:

Just to be a pedant, the old shaped 07 Octavia is based on the mark 2, not the mark 1.

mark 2 what?

Jip

unkel wrote:

mark 2 what?

Want to take a wild guess ?

unkel

Jip wrote:

Want to take a wild guess ?

Enlighten me :rolleyes:

omega man

Jip wrote:

Just to be a pedant, the old shaped 07 Octavia is based on the mark 2, not the mark 1.

The 'old' shaped 07 octavia is the mk1 is it not!. So how can the mk1 be based on the mk2?

Jip

Well the thread is titled Skoda Octavia Double Model and every post so far concerned an Octavia it's rather obvious then.

Now unless you're trying to lead me into a trap by saying I'm wrong about the model numbers such as the new shape one is the mk 2 you'd be wrong. The mk 1 is the original one, the mk 2 came out around 2001 which was a face lifted model with new grill, headlights and colour coded door handles for example and this is the model you can buy, now called the Octavia Tour, along side the current Octavia model.

Jip

omega man wrote:

The 'old' shaped 07 octavia is the mk1 is it not!. So how can the mk1 be based on the mk2?

Nope, see the post above.

JoeA3

Jip, usually facelifts as minor (cosmetic) as that, are not referred to as a new "mark" in their own right. Most cars get a facelift, spec change halfway through their cycle, and are replaced completely by a new "mark" later down the road. I mean, the current Mk5 Golf would otherwise be known as MK7 or 8 if you were to count minor facelifts.

Perhaps Skoda is different in this case?

unkel

Jip wrote:

The mk 1 is the original one, the mk 2 came out around 2001 which was a face lifted model

Pedants are usually right. You're wrong. The '01 face lifted model is still the mk 1

Jip

JoeA3 wrote:

Perhaps Skoda is different in this case?

Possibly. I understand what you're saying and agree but google octavia mk 2 and almost everything that comes back will be based on the old shape and I know dealers, rightly or wrongly, have called it the mk II, maybe for convenience sake as when you went in looking for part it was easier to tell what version you wanted a part for. That's why I said I'm being a pedant.

Unkel, yeah, maybe I am wrong but at least I'm coming out and saying it. I not sitting here rubbing my hands in glee with the possibility that I've caught someone out and trying to bait them, as you obviously where with me.

JoeA3

Generally, a new "Mark" would be a completely new model - i.e. a new chassis. Facelifts and spec upgrades happen on an almost yearly basis with some cars, e.g. how many times was the last generation Ford Escort given a new nose job?!
Though I've sometimes seen, for example, MK 1.5, used (to denote in this case that its a facelifted Mark 1).

Jip

As I said, I know where you're coming from and I explained where I'm coming from.

unkel

What JoeA3 said. The Octavia mk1 shares the platform with the Golf mk4 and other cars. The Octavia mk2 ('04) shares the platform with the Golf mk5...

Jip wrote:

google octavia mk 2 and almost everything that comes back will be based on the old shape and I know dealers, rightly or wrongly, have called it the mk II. That's why I said I'm being a pedant.

Pedants tend not to always believe car dealers. Pedants are generally expert googlers too

unkel

Jip wrote:

As I said, I know where you're coming from and I explained where I'm coming from.

Is that a funny way of saying JoeA3 is right and you are wrong?

Jip

Now now Unkel, the reputations of mods on this board are already at a low ebb, no need to bring it down any further.

unkel

Jip wrote:

the reputations of mods on this board are already at a low ebb, no need to bring it down any further.

Will ya get over yourself :rolleyes:

Now back on topic...

colm_mcm

the facelift on the Octavia was very minor, new headlights and tail lights, A few trim changes, and a minor re-jig of engines. Big deal.
The Mondeo seems to get a "facelift" every few months, on that basis, we're on the Mk 25 or so by now!

unkel

colm_mcm wrote:

the facelift on the Octavia was very minor, new headlights and tail lights, A few trim changes, and a minor re-jig of engines. Big deal

Agreed. I'd be quite happy if car manufacturers would skip those silly facelifts from now on. What's the added value? I don't buy that "fresher" look malarchy for a second

maidhc

unkel wrote:

Agreed. I'd be quite happy if car manufacturers would skip those silly facelifts from now on. What's the added value? I don't buy that "fresher" look malarchy for a second

It looks different. I think it caters for the people who change their car religiously for the same model every 3 years who like something "different".

bazz26

I think the major bonus of the MkI Octavia facelift in 2001 (in Ireland anyway) was the addition of a 1.4 litre engine to the range. Up to that point the smallest engine available was the 1.6 litre 8 valve petrol engine.

As facelifts go from a styling aspect, Skoda are usually very conservative. You have to look real hard to spot the differences. The 2007 Superb being another example, wing mirrors with led indicators from VW and slightly different rear light cluster are the only visual differences from the Superb launched in 2002 which was already heavily styled on the VW Passat from 10 years ago.

DonJose

colm_mcm wrote:

It's called the Octavia "Tour"

Colm you need a new image of the Octavia with the following text,

"Couldn't afford a Jetta? Skoda Octavia"

colm_mcm

or "couldn't afford a Chevrolet Lacetti?"

unkel

bazz26 wrote:

I think the major bonus of the MkI Octavia facelift in 2001 (in Ireland anyway) was the addition of a 1.4 litre engine to the range

Good point. The 1.4 petrol was (and still is) a great proposition in the Irish market. Good value for money combined with low tax, insurance and running costs

I bought one for my mother in law in '03. It was a 1.4 Ambiente with metallic paint, remote central locking and alarm and I got it for €17k cash

maidhc

I didn't realise there was a facelift Octavia until a colleage bought one recently. Even then I didn't notice until he pointed out the differences between the older model and it.

I saw another 07 Octavia Taxi yesterday. They are reasonably popular!