Oscar De La Hoya And Floyd Mayweather Camp Notes

ROCKMAN

Big Ears wrote:

I'd estimate it'll be 4:00 . Bautista v Medina is a WBO eliminator at S.Bantamweight . There has been a lot said about Bautista and he is meant to be the dogs bollocks .

yes hear about Bautista he's meant to tick all the right boxes,the real deal looking forward to seeing for myself.
As for the main event i really think that it will live up to all the hype i going for Mayweather stopping it late very late but one thing for sure he'll be tested big time.

Dempsey

I'm surprised by the judges decision

Big Ears

Dempsey wrote:

I'm surprised by the judges decision

I'm not , De La Hoya has lost close ones before(Trinidad , Mosley) .

I had the fight even , 6 rounds a piece .

Having watched the fight I am now firmly convinced Miguel Cotto would beat Mayweather and i'd certainly be interested in a Mosley v Mayweather fight aswell . If Mayweather actually does stay retired(I doubt it tbh) then I don't think he can be put up there with the real greats as he hasn't fought the best in his division since Lightweight(Castillo) .
The best Light-Middleweight in the World is Sergui Dzinzurik , but Mayweather likes to make the claim that the WBC is best and that by winning the WBC you don't have to fight any other fighter in a division no matter how good they are .

Dempsey

116-112 is a strange one

nacho libre

It's a pity the Murray fight wasn't televised. This could be a guy to look out for in the future.

Running Bing

Mayweather won that imo. The odd flurry from DLH looked good but none of the ounches landed. The whole fight DLH would corner PBF, release a flurry and PBF would parry, block and weave and wouldnt get hit, he would then come out and hit DLH with a few jabs. Thats the way the whole fight went imo.




Think Mayweather would easily beat Cotto and Margarito and would destroy Hatton. Only fight out there for him is Shane Mosley imo.


Have to disagree with you Big ears saying Mayweather has'nt fought the best. Most of the time he took the fight the fans wanted to see, it just happened there is not that much quality opposition out there now who can compare to him.

I think he wont go down as an all time great not becuase he didnt fight the best but because he is simply not an exciting fighter and for one reason or another has not been involved in enough "classic" fights or wars.


I still have a feeling time will be kind to him and years from now he will be looked on very highly.

Big Ears

He fought the best at Super Featherweight and Lightweight but he didn't at Light-welterweight , Welterweight and now Light-Middleweight .

Tszyu , Hatton , Cotto , Mosley , Margarito are all guys he could have fought that the fans wanted him to fight .

Mayweather's last 6 fights(basically all of his fights since he has moved up from Lightweight) haven't been near the guys he fought below that .

Demarcus Corley: a decent slick fighter but was bested quite comfortably by Junior Witter recently , Cotto stopped him in 5(it was premature but the stoppage was coming) and Judah had also won a tight decision over him . The win definitely looked better at the time as Corley had been WBO champ until losing his title to Judah in that close fight .

Henry Brussels: not top 10 at Light-Welterweight nor has he ever been . Average fighter with a bit of a shaky chin .

Arturo Gatti: Always entertaining but never really that great , Gatti was maneuvered into getting a second world title and given a few easy defenses . He was weight drained and past his best too . Mayweather himself reffered to Gatti as a C class fighter .

Sharmba Mitchell: Absolutely destroyed by Tszyu and with no where to go at Light-Welter Mitchell decided to move up to Welterweight into what was at the time an easier division . Past his prime and up at a weight where he is very small Mitchell was easily beaten and then confirmed he was shot as he was destroyed early again two fights later by Paul Williams .

Zab Judah: by far his best win at the weight however Judah was beaten by the very slow and not that skilled Carlos Baldomir in the fight before this .

Carlos Baldomir: beat Judah and Gatti he was a good win in the sense that he was the legitimate Welterweight champion of the world but he was made for Mayweather and any top fighter that doesn't go by the name Zab Judah .

De La Hoya:still a decent fighter , he pushed himself to the limits in training but simply was quite a way past his best .

compared to the 6 guys Mayweather beat before moving up ,
Phillip N'dou
Victoriano Sosa
Jose Luis Castillo(x2 , although I had him losing the first)
Jesus Chavez
Carlos Hernandez
Diego Corrales

I'd rate Floyd higher if he fought Cotto , Mosley and Margarito and lost once , winning the other two , than with what he's done now .