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Landcruiser SWB Commercial or Pajero Sport

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  • 02-04-2007 5:09pm
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    ballooba
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    I've been thinking about getting a 4WD for a while. I do a lot of watersports.

    I'm looking at the SWB Landcruiser and the Pajero Sport. I'm tending towards the Landcruiser.

    All the Landcruisers I am looking at are 100K plus (some around 120K). I presume this is not a problem for them and they will do 250-300K no problem?

    I'm having trouble finding commercials. Although there is a lot of these vehicles on the road, there doesn't seem to be many on Carzone, Autotrader, CBG etc.

    Is there something I am missing? Where is the main marketplace for commercials?


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    colm_mcm
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    Pajero Sport is more similar to an L200 than a Pajero, not generally loved, lots more oversteer than Land Cruiser, and very little power.
    No better IMO than the cheaper Santa Fe.


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    ballooba
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    SWB Pajero Vs SWB LandCruiser?

    I won't be going for a Pinin anyway. I'm 6"5' so it would be a bit of a squeeze.


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    otis
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    Landcruiser's a far better bet than the Pajero, although the LWB L'cruiser has far better road manners than the SWB which tends to be a bit 'giddy'. Like all off-roaders, check underneath for signs of damage, also timing belt changes are critical.

    I've had a '99 Landcruiser for 4 years now and apart from routine maintenance, tyres, servicing etc it hasn't put a foot wrong.


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    ballooba
    Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    Have you decided a price for it yet? ;)
    (I sent you a PM a few weeks back)

    LWB looks like a bit of a beast, for fuel economy, parking etc.


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    otis
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    Got your PM - thanks. Still awaiting a suitable replacement (Disco 3).

    LWB is not that difficult to manage, fuel economy is not that bad and reliability is superb.


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    dil999
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    theres a seperate "Commercials" tab on Carzone


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    ballooba
    Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    Cool. I have a Passat to sell myself so it'll probably be a while.

    There's a few LWB there on Carzone, not too many though. It might make more sense for carrying surfboards. I must go and test drive one this week. I test drove a Hilux Surf a few months back and it was the business.
    dil999 wrote:
    theres a seperate "Commercials" tab on Carzone
    Yeah, they're thin on the ground in there too for my budget.


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    fits
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    I had a friends swb 05 land cruiser for a couple of days last year, and did a lot of mileage in that time. I really found it uncomfortable to drive on long journeys for some reason. I found it 'giddy' on the road as someone else mentioned and just not nice to drive. Was also a passenger in a brand new one on a long journey last month (a lwb) and I had a sore back and bum at the end of it. I've never experienced such discomfort in another car, and I've driven complete bangers.
    Its a great workhorse, but it really is not comfortable as a driver or passenger. I'm also used to driving vans so the size wasnt the issue.


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    ballooba
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    fits wrote:
    Was also a passenger in a brand new one on a long journey last month (a lwb) and I had a sore back and bum at the end of it. I've never experienced such discomfort in another car, and I've driven complete bangers.
    That doesn't sound good. Perhaps I should get a loan of one for a while to try it out.


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    fits
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    Maybe its just me now. Owner of the lwb didnt like taking it on long journeys though either. Do you need something to tow? Or just carry surfboards?

    Would you consider this? I'd love to try this one out myself.

    http://www.usedcars.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=614373


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    peasant
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    Any 4x4 ...real 4x4 that is ...worthy of its name and off-road credentials has at least one, if not two solid axles.
    No new fangled double wishbones ...good old ox cart technology, in some cases even still with leaf springs

    That, combined with a short wheelbase (also good for off-roading) does not allow for much comfort.


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    ballooba
    Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    fits wrote:
    Maybe its just me now. Owner of the lwb didnt like taking it on long journeys though either. Do you need something to tow? Or just carry surfboards?
    Not much towing, but some. Horse box and box trailer.
    fits wrote:
    Would you consider this? I'd love to try this one out myself.

    http://www.usedcars.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=614373
    About triple my budget.


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    fits
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    ballooba wrote:
    Not much towing, but some. Horse box and box trailer.

    About triple my budget.

    :D

    Horses and surfing are two pursuits I share with you...
    You are probably best sticking with something like a landcruiser or pajero then. Towing with an unsuitable vehicle is not fun.
    oh and btw, long wheel base vehicles are preferable for towing with.


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    peasant
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    If you can get over the looks and the cheapskate image THIS could be an alternative.

    The engine is a Merc licenced copy and pretty durable and easy to maintain and the vehicle itself is not too bad. Just make sure it hasn't been totally abused by the previous "budget conscious" owner.


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    ballooba
    Registered Users Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    fits wrote:
    Horses and surfing are two pursuits I share with you...
    You are probably best sticking with something like a landcruiser or pajero then.
    My brother has a pre-facelift passenger Disco for same. I think it's fairly rough. I don't like the look of it either.
    peasant wrote:
    If you can get over the looks and the cheapskate image THIS could be an alternative.
    I can't. Thanks for the link though. The first rule of (wind/)surfing is to look cool. ;)


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