Digiweb

regi

I don't poke, I hit em with a spanner

Well what ever you hit them with Regi-the lube digiweb are using is absolutely fantastic!

365 must have been using fast setting cement in comparison.

Nevyn

regi wrote:

I don't poke, I hit em with a spanner

Is it a laser spanner ? or did Emmeline Pankhurst steal your one too ?

Sparky

It's a snap on spanner.




/gets coat.

steve-hosting36

Just for the record, boards ran on a loadbalanced cluster solution in 365 too - we even provided the switches and load balancer at no cost (as well as the space, power and connectivity).

The decision to move was based solely on regi-proximity - nothing to do with bandwidth, power, capabilities or otherwise.

As Ireland's largest hosting provider, we probably have more transit, skilled engineers and experience in high-traffic websites than anyone else

mr_angry

Hobbes wrote:

So is search coming back then?

I think Regi is Bringing Sexy Back first.

seamus

Why is anyone bringing bandwidth up here?

This never had anything to do with bandwidth. Ever.

Being an ISP has very little to do with available bandwidth - most consumer and business subscribers are on a shared, relatively low-speed connection to the ISP which then connects them to the web (usually via the ISP's INEX conneciton).

Assuming that H365 and Digiweb have comparable connections to the INEX, it would be more fair to say that 365 are better placed because they don't have thousands of subcribers leeching their bandwidth.

oscarBravo

A wee moment of pedantry, seamus: ISPs don't connect to the web via the INEX; they connect to each other via the INEX. It's strictly verboten to use an INEX peering for general intarweb transit.

For example, we have Internet connectivity from two separate suppliers, both of whom provide routing to the 'net for us. At the same time, we have peering arrangements with several other ISPs, HEANET, Blueface and others at the INEX. If one of our customers connects to (say) ebay.com, the traffic goes through the transit providers. If the same customer makes a Blueface VoIP call, the traffic goes via the INEX.

seamus

Potaytoes potaatoes

(I'll be honest and say I wasn't entirely aware of that. Cheers)

Rabies

Spanky-s wrote:

It's a snap on spanner.

Don't you mean 'strap on spanner'

Sully

So hosting365 had boards running on the exact same technology as Digiweb has, and the only reason why they moved was so Regi could get access to the servers easier?

I feel since moving over to Digiweb things were faster.. or is that my imgination

Blowfish

Sully wrote:

So hosting365 had boards running on the exact same technology as Digiweb has, and the only reason why they moved was so Regi could get access to the servers easier?

I feel since moving over to Digiweb things were faster.. or is that my imgination

No, what happened was that the hardware was upgraded at the same time as the move to Digiweb.

The hardware was what was limiting the speed, but since the hardware is completely owned by boards.ie ltd, the problem with speed was nothing to do with the hosting company.

The part that hosting365 was responsible for was completely solid.

seamus

Arrrrgggghhhh! Thanks Blowfish.

So hosting365 had boards running on the exact same technology as Digiweb has

I can't explain why, but pointing the finger at an innocent party makes my blood boil, so so much. I'm not angry at you Sully, just at the implication that it was 365's fault.
Like any good admin, the person(s) in charge of boards.ie's move, decided that adding/upgrading the hardware infrastructure of the system at the same time, would minimise the downtime and maximise said person(s) access to the hardware (remember that this is done during the admins personal time). Thus, any improvement seen is due to professional configuration of the hardware, not basic movement of it as is impliied.

Please point any subsequent criticism of the hosting company at this point.

RoundyMooney

Spanky-s wrote:

It's a snap on spanner.

ITYM spammer.

I'm no expert [/disclaimer]

*But* due to the coincidental nature of the move to Digiweb (for whatever reason) and the server(s) upgrade, the boardsie experience has improved beyond recognition.

Even a pleb like me can point to the hardware upgrades as the cause of this, especially given the manifold excuses and explanations for boardsies lamentable performance up to that point.

The admins have been notably transparent in their hardware difficulties, and in their support and goodwill for Hosting 365.

Given this, I'm bemused by the continual attribution of boardsies newfound speed to a change in host.

DeVore

To confirm: We were very hardware-limited when we had the 3 server cluster. H365 gave us great connectivity but our servers couldnt utilise all of it because they were the bottleneck. When we moved to Digiweb (primaraily for Dan to have direct access) we also took the opportunity to upgrade to a considerably more powerful server cluster at the same time. Consequently loads from from the 20-60 range (which if you know anything about unix is simply :eek:) to the far more acceptible 1-2 range.

Its unfair on H365 to compare the performance before and after the move with Digiweb because you are comparing apples and Ferrari's in terms of hardware.

DeV.

ecksor

In case anyone is wondering what he means there, Ferrari don't make servers, but apple do.

mr_angry

...unless you were to use an Acer Ferrari as a server.




Ok, I know thats a stretch!

DeVore

In a weird twist of oddity... that post (and this one) were written on an Acer Ferrari...

DeV.

RuggieBear

hope you weren't one of the Microsoft chosen few...?

Gordon

OK, so when does the world implode?

mr_angry

Any second now.

Sparky

DeVore wrote:

In a weird twist of oddity... that post (and this one) were written on an Acer Ferrari...

DeV.

I felt your Acer Ferrari. I also want your chair too.

Sully

seamus wrote:

Arrrrgggghhhh! Thanks Blowfish.
I can't explain why, but pointing the finger at an innocent party makes my blood boil, so so much. I'm not angry at you Sully, just at the implication that it was 365's fault.
Like any good admin, the person(s) in charge of boards.ie's move, decided that adding/upgrading the hardware infrastructure of the system at the same time, would minimise the downtime and maximise said person(s) access to the hardware (remember that this is done during the admins personal time). Thus, any improvement seen is due to professional configuration of the hardware, not basic movement of it as is impliied.

Please point any subsequent criticism of the hosting company at this point.

Thanks for clarifying that. I think some people (like me, who wouldnt be very tech minded (yet)) would have noticed that you were moving from H365 to Digiweb and when the move completed, everything was faster. So they came to the conlusion (wrongly) that H365 were not capable of hosting Boards.ie but Digiweb were.

Obviously looking at it closer and from yours (and others) posts - the hardware change done during the move (a very wise move) was the main reason for the speed changes and performance increase. Nothing to do with either provider, but Boards.ie Server Admins jobs.

Things are a lot clearer now. Thanks.

seamus

must.stop.posting.when.drunk.

testicle

steve-hosting36 wrote:

To be fair, we probably have as much if not more capacity than digiweb. The move was entirely down to a few admins working at digiweb, not technical reasons whatsoever (as confirmed by the admin's posts).

Things feel faster now as more servers have been added to the cluster. 365 was not responsible for boards hardware (only colocation (power and connectivity)

After nearly 5 years of rock solid service, I would take exception to any implication that 365 were in any way inferior - we are, after all, a specialist hosting company and boards decision to move was not based on performance or technical reasons.

Hope that helps clear that up.

Would it be true that you are known in certain circles as Hosting 364?

steve-hosting36

certain circles?

We've had consistently excellent uptime, higher than most if not all of our competitors over the years

Perhaps you move in the wrong circles, or simply those occupied by jealous competitors

testicle

I see you don't deny it.

Jealous Competitors? No, former customers. How's the DB9?

Random

testicle wrote:

I see you don't deny it.

Jealous Competitors? No, former customers. How's the DB9?

What's going on here? You're poking fun at 365 using code words only steve will recognise?

Let us in on the info?

testicle

google DB9 and see what you get, it's not a codeword!

Random

@testicle - I'm just a nosy bastard who wants to know what you're talking about. Forgive me.

It's a car. Shows what I know. I'm not a car person!