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  • 08-04-2007 3:44pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭


    i know this question probably seems retarded but its just getting on my nerves at this stage...:mad:

    CosBCos(A-B)-SinBSin(A-B)

    Does this not equal CosB

    Yet the marking scheme i have says it equals Cos (2B-A)

    Any help?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    I'm getting it as CosA actually...

    Let's see,

    CosBCos(A-B)-SinBSin(A-B) =

    (cosB)(cosAcosB + sinAsinB) - sinB(sinAcosB - cosAsinB)
    cosAcos^2B + sinAsinBcosB - sinAsinBcosB + cosAsin^2B
    (take out cos A, middle two terms cancel anyway)
    cosA(cos^2B + sin^2B)
    cosA(1)
    = cosA.

    Unless I'm getting the old cos(a-b) formulae wrong.. which is possible!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭ZorbaTehZ


    Just use the formula straight:
    Let X = B, Y = (A-B)

    Formula is :
    Cos (X + Y) = Cos X . Cos Y - Sin X . Sin Y
    . . .Cos( (B) + (A-B)) = Cos ( B-B + A) = Cos A

    Yup PFM is right it's Cos A. What is the question shox?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    cosBcos(A-B) = (cosA + cos(2B-A))/2
    sinBsin(A-B) = (cos(2B-A) - cosA)/2

    therefore: cosBcos(A-B)-sinBsin(A-B)=
    (cosA + cos(2B-A) - cos(2B-A) + cosA)/2
    =cosA

    Whoever wrote the marking scheme clearly used this method and mixed up the signs somewhere, probably writing sinBsin(A-B) = (cosA - cos(2B-A))/2 by mistake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Shox


    well its 2 questions im having the problem with.

    2005 (b)

    I got the range as being :(on marking scheme)
    2u^2SinA(CosACosB-SinASinB)
    gCos^2B


    = 2u^2SinACos(A+B)
    gCos^2B

    But then when i do whrn range is max:

    Cos(A+B)=0
    A+B=90
    A=90-B

    But the answer for this has to be
    A=45-B
    2

    So obviously in my range it needs to be Cos(2A+B)
    But how do you get that??





    2nd Prob 2003 (b)

    For my range im getting:

    u^2.2Sin(A-B)[Cos(A-B)CosB-Sin(A-B)SinB]
    gCos^2B

    u^2.2Sin(A-B).Cos(A-B+B)
    gCos^2B

    u^2.2Sin(A-B).CosA
    gCos^2B

    Answer at back is:

    u^2[Sin(2A-B)-SinB]
    gCos^2B

    Im lost i can see they're using Sin2X=2SinXCosX

    But in mine the X's above arent the same i
    presume thats where my mistake is


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭ZorbaTehZ


    2005 (b)

    This a long part, so I will only write out the part you mentioned.
    Finishing b, part one you get as the answer:

    S(x) =
    2u^2SinA(CosACosB-SinASinB)
    gCos^2 B

    Bit in the brackets changes to Cos(A-B) . . .from the Math Tables.
    2u^2SinA(Cos(A-B))
    gCos^2 B

    2u^2 . [(SinA)(Cos(A-B))] . . .This is where you erred.
    gCos^2 B

    Only take the bit in the square brackets because...
    You need to find the value of alpha that will yield greatest distance, so you can take everything else as being constant - nevertheless you do still need to take into account everything that does include alpha.
    . . .(Sin A)(Cos(A-B))

    Use the product to sum rule in the Math Tables that looks like 2SinACosB - and you get:
    1/2 (Sin (A + (A-B)) + 1/2(Sin (A - (A-B))
    . . .1/2(Sin (2A-B)) + 1/2(Sin B)

    Disregard the 1/2(Sin B) as a constant and differentiate:
    (Taking B as a constant)
    ds(x)/dA [1/2 Sin (2A-B)] = 1/2 . Cos (2A-B) . 2
    . . . = Cos(2A-B)

    Maximum value at 0
    Cos (2A-B) = 0
    2A-B = 90
    2A = 90 - B
    A = 45 - B/2


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭ZorbaTehZ


    2003 (b)
    Use this rule instead:
    2SinXCosY = Sin (X+Y) + Sin(X-Y)
    . . .and let X= A-B and Y= A

    . . .Sin(A-B+A) + Sin(A-B-A)
    . . .Sin(2A-B) + Sin(-B)
    . . .Sin(2A-B) - SinB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Shox


    Thanks Zorba.:)

    I see my mistake now.

    Seems so obvious now after you've explained. :D


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