Cows need us to eat them

Capt'n Midnight

rockbeer wrote:

Just for anybody who hasn't trawled through the entire thread, ScumLord has already made it clear he thinks it's OK for one species to grind up another as long as the species destined to be ground up doesn't know what's in store for it in advance.

arbeit macht frei

Tar.Aldarion

ScumLord wrote:

It was ye that went off on tangents saying cows can feel emotions like humans and have the same mental abilities as humans, which since they have imagination means they can read books, understand art and build complex tools they just couldn't be arsed to do so.
It's Tar who's implying that a cow with a tiny brain can have the same mental functions as a human.

Where did we say they have the same mental abilities as a human, yes they can feel emotion, yes they can imagine, both proven. Your argument is 'I think'. Nobody said they could read books, understand art and build complex tools, you infer that for no reason because it has been said that they have the ability to imagine and feel.

It's not just a case of being smarter or having a high IQ, our brains are different. If cows had the same mental abilities as us why don't they use them? I don't see any cows singing, writing books, or doing much else other than eat and ****. You could not, in any way apply a human intelligence test to a cow, because their brains are different.

I am referring to intelligence, not an IQ test, just usuinf IQ for short, not ratio of tested mental age to chronological age expressed as a quotient multiplied by 100...
You seem to infer, for no reason, that because animals can imagine and feel, tehy somehow should be as smart as human, which nobody has said.

misssouthside

**This will be a bit complicated, bear with me!**
Personally, it's the mass-slaughtering of animals I disagree with. If someone hunts down the animal, kills it, lives off the meat, uses the hide, etc., and if they're living in the wilderness I actually don't have any problem with it.
Sure, I wouldn't have any part in it, but I wouldn't think it was inhumane. Why?
Because the animal wouldn't have died needlessly.
You're right, animals will always hunt each other. But can you really compare a lion hunting down a zebra to you going into a supermarket and buying some sasauges?
You haven't done anything to get that meat, just forked over some.
In the wild, the animals live, and then they die. Mostly because another animal hunts them down.
But, we, the humans, thinking we're so much better with IQs, and our technology, don't do anything. An animal is kept in captivity their whole life, they are then killed (along with maybe 100 other aniamls), they're left in a slaughterhouse. Their hide is stripped off, sold on. The animal is then cut up, and all the nasty bits end up going somewhere. The meat is then brought to a factory, where it's packaged. It's then brought to a supermarket, where someone buys it. Surely you can't compare that to hunting in the wild?
Let's face it, unless you hunted down that animal, cut it up, etc. you really have no right to eat it.
And that, my friend, is why I'm a vegetarian, because I don't agree with the mass slaughtering.
But, of course, this is just my opinion.:D