Who is intending on doing maths, physics, tp after the leaving..

dan719

This is just a place for anyone consideribng doing these kinda courses to talk to others about there own impressions and plans for after the lc.

md99

I ain't no mathlete, bro, so I'm out.

eZe^

Physics in either UCC or Imperial College London. Cant wait!

Naikon

Seconded, Although thankfully I will use maths as a tool to a certain degree, just not to the same rigour required for heavy maths degrees etc.

JC 2K3

Oh God, you're going through that "OMG Physics is amazing and explains everything!!" phase.

I've been there. After realising that most of these highly advanced physics theories are unlikely to have any practical applications in our lifetimes I kinda lost interest.

Despite liking it a lot at first LC Physics has become dull to me. Chemistry(organic chem in particular) actually interests me a lot more now, and i've thought about putting Pharmacy or somehting similar on my CAO.

I'm doing Computer Science in TCD however. Quite a good bit of maths and logic involved there I think you'll find.

dan719

Imperial college. Interesting. Which one are you leaning towards?

eZe^

dan719 wrote:

Imperial college. Interesting. Which one are you leaning towards?

UCC, for the simple fact its a 10 minute drive and cork isnt one of the most expensive cities in the world to live in! Quite aware that it is a whole different experience over there, and you have you masters within 4 years. But Im quite lazy, Ill just apply to Stanford to do my PhD hopefully.

dan719

JC 2K3 wrote:

Oh God, you're going through that "OMG Physics is amazing and explains everything!!" phase.

Yeah 16 years is a long phase. Of course physics explains all these phases and orbits too.

And since you have realised that, perhaps we should all give up. I mean who are we to argue with your superior knowledge of physics and its applications. If only you had been around a hundred years ago, you could have saved einstein all the bother. Oh add a couple of centuries to that, bang no newton!! And science as we know would not exist!!

dan719

Stanford. Cool. And that ten minute drive thing seems handy too!

Naikon

JC 2K3 wrote:

Oh God, you're going through that "OMG Physics is amazing and explains everything!!" phase.

I've been there. After realising that most of these highly advanced physics theories are unlikely to have any practical applications in our lifetimes I kinda lost interest.

Despite liking it a lot at first LC Physics has become dull to me. Chemistry(organic chem in particular) actually interests me a lot more now, and i've thought about putting Pharmacy or somehting similar on my CAO.

I'm doing Computer Science in TCD however. Quite a good bit of maths and logic involved there I think you'll find.

I looked at that course, nice overall but I think that its weird that its the only CS course in Ireland that requires HL maths.
The course has a bias towards Electrical Engineering which I admit is not for me.

Not to say computer architecture is pointless, I do small bits of programing and understanding the machine you use at an assembly level is very usefull, just not to the atomic level which is too deep unless you intend on building computer Hardware.

This is what I have in mind

http://www.dit.ie/DIT/study/undergraduate/programmes07/DT228.pdf

JC 2K3

dan719 wrote:

Yeah 16 years is a long phase. Of course physics explains all these phases and orbits too.

And since you have realised that, perhaps we should all give up. I mean who are we to argue with your superior knowledge of physics and its applications. If only you had been around a hundred years ago, you could have saved einstein all the bother. Oh add a couple of centuries to that, bang no newton!! And science as we know would not exist!!

lol.

Mate, one thing you have to realise about me is that if you assert any kind of superiority or overt enthusiasm in your posts I WILL reply in a dismissive fashion.

lemansky

found it! nice job!no i've looked at the tp course and its defo interesting.o don't care if in my lifetime i never see a practical use for the theories really!:) its all good!

dan719

please do be dismissive, in fact no need to reply at all, I think I will be able to cope with it. And since I obviously wasn't being superior I must have been showing 'overt enthusiasm'. Which is ridiculous because to be enthusiastic about something would indicate a willingness to discuss it with others. i.e it would always be overt.
I am merely stating that things have uses no one can predict, e.g relativity and satellites.Who knows what technology todays theories will bring. Quantum computing maybe???

JC 2K3

Naikon wrote:

I looked at that course, nice overall but I think that its weird that its the only CS course in Ireland that requires HL maths.
The course has a bias towards Electrical Engineering which I admit is not for me.

Not to say computer architecture is pointless, I do small bits of programing and understanding the machine you use at an assembly level is very usefull, just not to the atomic level which is too deep unless you intend on building computer Hardware.

This is what I have in mind

http://www.dit.ie/DIT/study/undergraduate/programmes07/DT228.pdf

Looks like a nice course. I was in DIT a while back at a computer games conference and they seem to have a good focus on computers. They're one of the only places I know that allow you to specialise in computer game design.

I like all aspects of PCs and understand the hardware to a decent level already. In the end I narrowed it down to Computer Apps in DCU and CS in Trinity and chose Trinity in the end, basically because DCU is rather far away compared to Trinity and there's not that much to seperate the degrees(although DCU's is apparently the "best" in Ireland).

lemansky

JC 2K3 wrote:

Oh God, you're going through that "OMG Physics is amazing and explains everything!!" phase.

whereas personally i'm not like that:) i must say that when you boil everything down to it's bare minimum you do find physics at the heart of them.....

JC 2K3

dan719 wrote:

please do be dismissive, in fact no need to reply at all, I think I will be able to cope with it. And since I obviously wasn't being superior I must have been showing 'overt enthusiasm'. Which is ridiculous because to be enthusiastic about something would indicate a willingness to discuss it with others. i.e it would always be overt.
I am merely stating that things have uses no one can predict, e.g relativity and satellites.Who knows what technology todays theories will bring. Quantum computing maybe???

I don't mind that you like physics, it's just like calm down. I love computers but you don't see me making a thread saying, "OMG I'm doing Computer Science next year, isn't it the best course ever!? Please post here about your course and why computers rock!".

Not that I have a problem with threads about physics courses, just don't let yourself come across that you've just read a bunch of articles on stuff like special relativity and string theory and feel the need to spread the love of physics to the masses.

lemansky wrote:

whereas personally i'm not like that:) i must say that when you boil everything down to it's bare minimum you do find physics at the heart of them.....

Well of course, I'm referring more to the apparently inherent need some people have to tell the world how amazing physics is.

dan719

good point, so that now any personal affronts are out of the way and forgiven lol:D . Yeah so tp anyway....

dan719

okay maybe I did get carried away there, certainly wasnt intentional. To correct that I would like to point out that I do leave my house, shower and socialise, often in the same day!!!lol no but seriously I intended this as a forum for people who are doing tp to talk to others. I am quite worried that I will be out of my depth, and I know some others are too. Apoligies again.

Naikon

JC 2K3 wrote:

Looks like a nice course. I was in DIT a while back at a computer games conference and they seem to have a good focus on computers. They're one of the only places I know that allow you to specialise in computer game design.

I like all aspects of PCs and understand the hardware to a decent level already. In the end I narrowed it down to Computer Apps in DCU and CS in Trinity and chose Trinity in the end, basically because DCU is rather far away compared to Trinity and there's not that much to seperate the degrees(although DCU's is apparently the "best" in Ireland).

True, its a nice course I must say and I was impressed at the three types of graduates the course develops.

1 Development.
2 System/network person who can program.
3 Databases specialism.
4 computer games developer.

DCU is regarded as the best with its "practical" emphases, but DIT is my first choice over Computer Applications as DCU is indeed a pain in the ass with regards to Location and the fact that they are very similar courses.

EDIT: I would argue that CS in TCD is far more "mathematical" as it aims to produce Computer scientists as opposed to developers who apply that knowledge in terms of DCU,s aims.(minus games programming which is optional)

JC 2K3

Well, it's a thread not a forum, and stop using so many exclamation marks. But ok, we're even.

Since I'm not doing TP I'll leave this thread now unless Naikon wants to discuss CS further.

eZe^

Prefer normal physics to be honest, it deals with the more practical side of things as well as the mysterious and what not. Having a 50/50 spread of math and physics doesnt appeal to me either, I prefer using mathematical topics in solving physics problems, each to their own!

Computer science seems like a pretty cool course, those computer languages are pretty damn useful, might learn the basics of C+ when Im not too lazy!

Naikon

JC 2K3 wrote:

Well, it's a thread not a forum, and stop using so many exclamation marks. But ok, we're even.

Since I'm not doing TP I'll leave this thread now unless Naikon wants to discuss CS further.

The latter:D(if you want)

Naikon

eZe^ wrote:

Prefer normal physics to be honest, it deals with the more practical side of things as well as the mysterious and what not. Having a 50/50 spread of math and physics doesnt appeal to me either, I prefer using mathematical topics in solving physics problems, each to their own!

Computer science seems like a pretty cool course, those computer languages are pretty damn useful, might learn the basics of C+ when Im not too lazy!

Learn C first then C++ ,C++ assumes you know C before hand(mostly)
Besides C is the "lowest" HIGH level language and gives you control over memory management etc whereas JAVA, PERL do these things for you.
I would recommend learning some form of UNIX too, FREEBSD is my current favorite

eZe^

Naikon wrote:

Learn C first then C++ ,C++ assumes you know C before hand(mostly)
Besides C is the "lowest" HIGH level language and gives you control over memory management etc whereas JAVA, PERL do these things for u.
I would recommend learning some form of UNIX too, FREEBSD is a good bet.:)

See, I could have made a big mistake there. Thanks! :P

Naikon

No problem:)
Dont waste your time on VISUAL BASIC by the way, its more concerned with building objects for you without the real reasoning behind what your doing.
Great for Business studies majors(no offense, Business people wouldn't waste their time on "real" programming now would they):D

*not taking notable exceptions into account*

Besides programming is applied to business largely as well as other applications.

JC 2K3

Naikon wrote:

I would argue that CS in TCD is far more "mathematical" as it aims to produce Computer scientists as opposed to developers who apply that knowledge in terms of DCU,s aims.(minus games programming which is optional)

Well, not so much mathematical as "theoretical". I like the look of the CS course myself.

Naikon

I sort of get what your saying but yes, TCD CS is more about the theoretical underpinnings of CS in contrast to DIT which is more "applied" in nature.

ZorbaTehZ

Meh, you guys are nerdz.
NERDZ, I say.

Naikon

ZorbaTehZ wrote:

Meh, you guys are nerdz.
NERDZ, I say.

0mg!!! 1n$|_|l7, 3Y3 4m 4 l337 h4x0r!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Also, I fit the criteria of a "Geek" not a "nerd"
and no I am NOT fluent in leetspeak.....yet:D

Naikon

Brothers, we must unite and unanimously agree to format our current partitions and install a Unix or Linux varient on the Machine.
I am really starting to dislike Windows.
It will be worth it besides the initial frustration:D

JC 2K3

Meh, I've been meaning to set up a dual boot on my machine for a while now but meh, windows is just so easy...