Poland and Ukraine host Euro 2012

mike65

Oh dear.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6562527.stm

Poland and Ukraine have been chosen to host the 2012 European Championships.

Italy were widely expected to win the Uefa vote in Cardiff, with another joint bid from Croatia and Hungary also in the running.

However, Italy's bid was overshadowed by last season's referee corruption scandal and their on-going problems with football-related crowd trouble.

It will be the first time that either Poland or Ukraine have hosted a major football championship.

Their bid team staged an impressive presentation on Tuesday, featuring Chelsea striker Andriy Shevchenko, Liverpool keeper Jerzy Dudek as well as boxer Vitali Klitschko, former Olympic champion Sergei Bubka and Ukraine president Victor Yushchenko.

Games will be played in four Ukrainian cities (Dnipropetrovsk, Donetsk, Kiev and Lviv) and six Polish venues (Gdansk, Krakow, Poznan, Warsaw, Wroclaw and Chorzow).

Could get a bit nasty given the rep of east European racists/thugs who will latch onto such an event.

Mike.

PHB

Maybe, same thing could have happened in Italy though

Vokes

Thats mad, Italy and Croatia / Hungary were ahead in the reckoning.

Would've like Croatia / Hungary to have got it.

BaZmO*

Bloody Poles! Coming over here and taking our Championships!!! No wait...that's jobs.

5 years to get a Polish bird so that I'm sorted for acommodation if we qualify. Plus it has the added bonus of getting to bang a Polish bird. It's a win win situation. C'mon Stan and the boys!!!!

Pepe LeFrits

BaZmO* wrote:

C'mon Stan and the boys!!!!

Is that a euphemism?

Interesting choice for the Euros.

Kojak

I thought Italy would have got it, despite their recent troubles, they seemed to be trying to remedy the problems.

It seems that anyone of the 3 options were going to have their problems - it will just be interesting to see if Poland-Ukraine was the best choice of the 3...

BaZmO*

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

Is that a euphemism?

Haha. Possibly.

Kojak wrote:

[ I thought Italy would have got it, despite their recent troubles, they seemed to be trying to remedy the problems

How so?

Raskolnikov

BaZmO* wrote:

Bloody Poles! Coming over here and taking our Championships!!! No wait...that's jobs.

5 years to get a Polish bird so that I'm sorted for acommodation if we qualify. Plus it has the added bonus of getting to bang a Polish bird. It's a win win situation. C'mon Stan and the boys!!!!

You might want to get a couple of Polish and Ukrainian ones on the go, because there's going to be 1,000's of miles between stadiums :eek:

Doodee

They were saying in the Media yesterday that Sepp Blatter had somewhat of an obligation to Poland and Ukraine since they have been backing him for many years to become Fifa President.

It was a good segment, It should help the eastern European countries find new life in football and promote greater competitivness too.
It is a little scarey though, given the kind of videos you can see on youtube about polish hooligans, then again just send the Brits and Italians in there

Raskolnikov

Doodee wrote:

It is a little scarey though, given the kind of videos you can see on youtube about polish hooligans, then again just send the Brits and Italians in there

If it wasn't for the German police being so good, there would most definitely have been violence in the World Cup. I wonder are the Polish police aware and ready to handly hooliganism to the magnitude we may see.

BaZmO*

Raskolnikov wrote:

You might want to get a couple of Polish and Ukrainian ones on the go, because there's going to be 1,000's of miles between stadiums :eek:

That sounds like a challenge to me, one I like the sound of!!!

Doodee wrote:

They were saying in the Media yesterday that Sepp Blatter had somewhat of an obligation to Poland and Ukraine since they have been backing him for many years to become Fifa President.

If that's true it's BS. The staging of events should go to who's best suited infrastructurally and promotion of the game wise rather than to repay some dodgy favour, but this is FIFA/Sepp Blatter we are talking about after all. :rolleyes:

shane86

BaZmO* wrote:

5 years to get a Polish bird so that I'm sorted for acommodation if we qualify. Plus it has the added bonus of getting to bang a Polish bird. It's a win win situation. C'mon Stan and the boys!!!!

haha I presume this is following us winning Euro 2008 and reaching the semis of the following WC, as it would be hard to see him still there otherwise

Zebra3

Doodee wrote:

They were saying in the Media yesterday that Sepp Blatter had somewhat of an obligation to Poland and Ukraine since they have been backing him for many years to become Fifa President.

The Euros are staged by UEFA. Nothing to do with FIFA.

ziggy

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BaZmO*

ziggy67 wrote:

Not for the Polish bird its not!!

Ah now less of that!

leninbenjamin

Zebra3 wrote:

The Euros are staged by UEFA. Nothing to do with FIFA.

the high echelon politics of football are a dark dark thing.

1huge1

Ah well flights are so cheap to poland these days anyway
you wonder if the likes of poland can get them could we of get it? sure by 2012 we will have a new lansdowne road and could use croke park and maybe upgrade some in the mean time

leninbenjamin

1huge1 wrote:

Ah well flights are so cheap to poland these days anyway
you wonder if the likes of poland can get them could we of get it? sure by 2012 we will have a new lansdowne road and could use croke park and maybe upgrade some in the mean time

meh. our infrastructure couldn't handle a major tournament on that scale. only way i could see it if someone near us hosts it and gives us a couple of token matches. don't think we could challenge for hosts in our own right even we'd only have about 2 stadiums assuming the GAA would allow croker to be used.

Doodee

BaZmO* wrote:

If that's true it's BS. The staging of events should go to who's best suited infrastructurally and promotion of the game wise rather than to repay some dodgy favour, but this is FIFA/Sepp Blatter we are talking about after all. :rolleyes:

No actually, His vote carries a lot given his position in the game and you're hardly going to bite the hand that feeds you.

Also, as regards the infrastructure of the hosts, they have promised to develop it to FIFA standards and securing a competition of this scale means that they will re-coup any money that is spent, not to mention the funding they will get from Fifa themselves. It will also be very good for the Ukrainian economy which is almost non existent.

Dave!

Stadiums in Poland.......

http://www.stadiumguide.com/poland.htm

Can't find much on the Ukranian ones

Zebra3

leninbenjamin wrote:

the high echelon politics of football are a dark dark thing.

Very true, but you can be sure of one thing. The top heads at UEFA hate the top heads at FIFA and vice verse.

Anyone who thinks today's decision has anything to do with Blatter or FIFA is off their head.

leninbenjamin

Zebra3 wrote:

Very true, but you can be sure of one thing. The top heads at UEFA hate the top heads at FIFA and vice verse.

Anyone who thinks today's decision has anything to do with Blatter or FIFA is off their head.

wasn't that just between him and Johansson because they always went head to head over the FIFA? i thought Platini is very much Blatter's puppet and that quite a good few in UEFA won't ever go against him for fear of eradication.

Zebra3

FIFA generates its income from the WC, ie international football.

UEFA generates its income from the CL, ie European club football.

Totally different sides of football generate their main source of incomes and therefore their priorities are at loggerheads with one another.