Ireland (Republic) leapfrog in rankings

darkman2

http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,27275-Apr-2007,00.html

There you have it. Northern Ireland rightfully below us again. Any thoughts?

romperstomper

how is that "rightfully" below us again after the SHAMBOLIC performances we have put in so far in the qualifying campaign.

Dont be at yourself

FIFA rankings mean absolutely nothing.

eirebhoy

So what do people think of the new rankings since they were introduced? Look pretty accurate to me.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1871529,00.html

darkman2

romperstomper wrote:

how is that "rightfully" below us again after the SHAMBOLIC performances we have put in so far in the qualifying campaign.

C'mon the win against Slovenia was hardly shambolic. In fact it was great.

And NI just should not have a soccer team - end of. Yes some good wins. We all know though where they will be in a year's time.

zAbbo

4 wins on the trot, rockstars

1huge1

your being a bit hard on the north but ya ireland are clearly better than them
all the same as someone else said the fifa rankings dont mean much

besty

darkman2 wrote:

C'mon the win against Slovenia was hardly shambolic. In fact it was great.

Slovakia?

Dampsquid

Ireland got more points in may than any other country in March. Two 1-0 wins again teams ranked 36th and 74th. seems a bit strange

darkman2

besty wrote:

Slovakia?

Damn sorry I get those two confuzzled sometimes,

eirebhoy

Dampsquid wrote:

Ireland got more points in may than any other country in March. Two 1-0 wins again teams ranked 36th and 74th. seems a bit strange

What seems strange? The rankings are explained in the article I posted. It doesn't matter if it's 1-0 or 10-0, it doesn't matter if it's home or away. A win's a win.

I'll try to explain exactly how it's calculated.

The formula:
Match result * Match Status * Opposition strength * Regional strength

Regional Strength will always be 1.0 for us.

So for the win against Slovakia...

Match Result = 3 points
Match Status = 2.5 points
Opposition strength = [200 - ranking position]/100 = (200 - 37) / 100 = 1.63

3 * 2.5 * 1.63 = 12.25

The win against Wales earnt 9.225 points.

What happens then is you get the average of all the points from the matches in the last 12 months.

The average of the points from 12-24 months are multiplied by 0.5 (ie. halved).

24-36 months: 0.3x
36-48 months: 0.2x

The averages from the 4 periods are all added together and that score is multiplied by 100 to get your final points total.

Because we haven't won much in the last 12 months those 2 wins would make a huge difference. The biggest amount we'd lose is the win against Sweden which gets halved... ah I'm not very good at explaining this...

After June/July Italy will fall quite a bit in the rankings because their world cup results will be only worth half what they're worth atm.

Mr. Presentable

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

FIFA rankings mean absolutely nothing.

Develop, explain?

eirebhoy

Well they are pretty meaningless. There's no use to them. In the likes of snooker and tennis a players' aim is to get to the number 1 in the rankings but football teams couldn't give a toss about it.

Sizzler

Amazed at the ranking I have to say ! Wouldnt have been surprised to see the north a few slots ahead of us tbh.

Zebra3

darkman2 wrote:

And NI just should not have a soccer team - end of.

Why not?

PCros

Anybody watching Sky News this morning? They said that Ireland were in 20th position, I was like what that can't be right, so pressed red and watched the looped sports news and he did say 20th.

Giving me false hopes!:mad:

county

PCros wrote:

Anybody watching Sky News this morning? They said that Ireland were in 20th position, I was like what that can't be right, so pressed red and watched the looped sports news and he did say 20th.

Giving me false hopes!:mad:

31st,they jumped 20 places

PCros

county wrote:

31st,they jumped 20 places

I know they're 31st, but the guy on Sky stated 20th instead of 20 places. Ya with me?

county

PCros wrote:

I know they're 31st, but the guy on Sky stated 20th instead of 20 places. Ya with me?

with you now

Vokes

The ranking system is definitely better now. The list looks fairly accurate to me.

HashSlinging

england should be in the teens or greater.

shane86

darkman2 wrote:

http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,27275-Apr-2007,00.html

There you have it. Northern Ireland rightfully below us again. Any thoughts?

Rightfully?

The Wales match was woeful bar Ireland and Duff. The Slovak result was quite lucky (well, in some respects were were unlucky to only win 1-0 but still)

N.I are on fire right now.

eirebhoy

HashSlinging wrote:

england should be in the teens or greater.

They got to the last 8 of the world cup and knocked out on peno's so that plays a big part. They're also 7th in the UEFA seedings so get their fair share of points in qualifying.