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    #2732
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    folks,

    Would you need planning permission for a GRP canopy to the front of the house, thinking something similar to the one seen on the right here.

    grp canopy
    Thanks
    Rob


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    #2733
    Triona00
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Triona00


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    folks,

    Would you need planning permission for a GRP canopy to the front of the house, thinking something similar to the one seen on the right here.

    grp canopy
    Thanks
    Rob

    To avoid any complications down the line - ask the county council.


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    #2734
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    folks,

    Would you need planning permission for a GRP canopy to the front of the house, thinking something similar to the one seen on the right here.

    grp canopy
    Thanks
    Rob

    My gut feeling is yes you would need planning.


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    #2735
    slimjimmc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    From what I've read anything to the front of the building except small porches (Class 7) require planning permission. Class 3 structures such as shades, awnings etc are only exempt if they are not at the front wall of the building


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    #2736
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    Would you need planning permission for a GRP canopy to the front of the house, thinking something similar to the one seen on the right here.

    What you have shown in that link would require planning permission (as it involves a sizable porch extension).

    Maybe google again and clarify what you are looking for in terms of a canopy?


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    #2737
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    thanks lads.
    My gut tells me yes too. I've too much other stuff going on at the moment to be bothered with planning we I'll give it a miss for now.

    cheers


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    #2738
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    thanks lads.
    My gut tells me yes too. I've too much other stuff going on at the moment to be bothered with planning we I'll give it a miss for now.

    cheers

    Relatively cheap and simple process to get it approved tbh depending on where you are based.


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    #2739
    RobAMerc
    Registered Users Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    kceire wrote: »
    Relatively cheap and simple process to get it approved tbh depending on where you are based.

    really ? relative to what ?

    We are in Dun Laoighre Rathdown. - its something we very much would like to get done but I presumed planning is a pain full stop.


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    #2740
    vwt
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭vwt


    Hi guys,
    I'm just curious of opinions from people on here.We recently built an extension to the front of our house.We paid an architect to design the extension which we were very happy with and our planning application was successfull.Within two weeks of completion a neighbour has submitted an exact copy of our design via a different architect.The application also includes a photo of our house.Needless to say we were a bit peeved off with this as the neighbour in question didnt even ask could they use photos of our house etc.Where do we stand?,is this even allowed if it's a private property.
    Appreciate any feedback/opinions


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    #2741
    overshoot
    Registered Users Posts: 3,218 ✭✭✭overshoot


    I dont think there is much you can personally do as regards same design. You dont own it, you had a licence to use someone else's design. However your architect could have a copyright case if its a clear copy and paste, if you want to point it out to them.


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    #2742
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,590 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    overshoot wrote: »
    I dont think there is much you can personally do as regards same design. You dont own it, you had a licence to use someone else's design. However your architect could have a copyright case if its a clear copy and paste, if you want to point it out to them.

    Agreed, if its a carbon copy of the design or something very similar, there may be copy right infringement. However, you'd want to find out if your architect gave permission in the first instance.

    Regarding the photo of your house, this is a non issue as its viewable from a public road so a photo of that view is perfectly acceptable.


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    #2743
    vwt
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭vwt


    Thanks for the replies.Yeh we kinda has the feeling there wasn't a lot we can do.It is a carbon copy of the design and I did inform the architect.He basically said that copyright infringement relating to architects designs would be very hard to prove and not worth the effort.I just wanted people's personal opinions on what they would do.Its just annoying especially when the person in question is not even resident in the house and is just doing it for financial gain.


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    #2744
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    vwt wrote: »
    .I just wanted people's personal opinions on what they would do.
    Why not post a picture here, so we can form a personal opinion on what we would do.


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    #2745
    vwt
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭vwt


    BryanF wrote: »
    Why not post a picture here, so we can form a personal opinion on what we would do.

    We wanted to stay anonymous in case our neighbours or there architects frequent the boards.The design and the style of house is quite unique and would be easily identified.The last thing we wanted was to cause a rift or come across as difficult-this is why I was asking other people how they would feel/react


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    #2746
    Charlie Charolais
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Charlie Charolais


    Hi all,


    We have full PP for a 35 x 80 site on our home farm, (so land availability is not an issue)
    after setting out the house, 35 looks narrow
    Is there any way we can increase the width to 40?
    can we temporarily fence the site at 35 x 80, and when house is finished/mortgage drawn/paperwork finished, can we push out the boundary from 35 to 40?


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    #2747
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    I'd be pretty sure that there should be no issue, from a PP point of view, increasing the site size (different matter reducing it).

    For planning 'sign off' it may be better to build house on site as per the planning docs and then extend site after, as you suggest.


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    #2748
    Angry bird
    Closed Accounts Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Angry bird


    Either apply to increase the site boundaries now, can continue to build the house etc. as the increase in site size has no impact on this or apply for retention when the site is in place. Shouldn't be a problem either way.


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    #2749
    hexosan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭hexosan


    I stand to be corrected here but you don't need retention to increase the site size.


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    #2750
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Just looking for a quick answer to a question. If I have been granted permission but with conditions, can I apply for permission again with an amended plan to try and avoid having to apply the conditions?


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    #2751
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Effects wrote: »
    Just looking for a quick answer to a question. If I have been granted permission but with conditions, can I apply for permission again with an amended plan to try and avoid having to apply the conditions?

    Quick answer...yes.


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    #2752
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Quick answer...yes.

    Thanks for the reply. We've been granted permission for a mews but they stipulate a 2m set back on the ground floor. That leaves us with 10 sqm less on the floor with the bedrooms. Which is a lot given it's a 50 sqm footprint and leaves the first floor overhanging the bedroom windows by 3m.
    A neighbour is probably going to appeal to ABP so might have to go that route first.


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    #2753
    Angry bird
    Closed Accounts Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Angry bird


    Changes to part v and to contributions which from first reading appears to have immediate effect.


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    #2754
    Belini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Belini


    Hi
    Just looking for some advice on planning? We currently live in a semi detached house and are planning a small ground floor extension which is within planning limits. We are also looking at possible extending one of our upstairs bedrooms . This will require planning. We have a small back garden which faces the side of our neighbours house, we don't know these neighbours as they live on a different road. Our garden is very small and hence the need for planning as it is quite close to their house albeit it the side of their house. They have a small side window into their kitchen which I see as the main stumbling block for us getting planning I.e it could be viewed as overlooking their kitchen even though we would not see much given the size and location of the window. There are also bushes on our side which conceal the view into their window .
    Our architect has advised us to call to all neighbours to get a sense of their thoughts before applying for planning. Our builder is telling us not to bother calling to them as this would only encourage them to object and says they won't see the sign post out the front of our garden .
    I am not sure what the best course of action is. We have no relationship with them but of all our neighbours they would be most likely to object.
    Advice would be welcomed, we don't want to spend money on a planning application that is doomed from the start!


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    #2755
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Apply for planning and let the LA make the decision. That's what I would do.


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    #2756
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Speak to your neighbours
    Belini wrote: »
    Hi
    Just looking for some advice on planning? We currently live in a semi detached house and are planning a small ground floor extension which is within planning limits. We are also looking at possible extending one of our upstairs bedrooms . This will require planning. We have a small back garden which faces the side of our neighbours house, we don't know these neighbours as they live on a different road. Our garden is very small and hence the need for planning as it is quite close to their house albeit it the side of their house. They have a small side window into their kitchen which I see as the main stumbling block for us getting planning I.e it could be viewed as overlooking their kitchen even though we would not see much given the size and location of the window. There are also bushes on our side which conceal the view into their window .
    Our architect has advised us to call to all neighbours to get a sense of their thoughts before applying for planning. Our builder is telling us not to bother calling to them as this would only encourage them to object and says they won't see the sign post out the front of our garden .
    I am not sure what the best course of action is. We have no relationship with them but of all our neighbours they would be most likely to object.
    Advice would be welcomed, we don't want to spend money on a planning application that is doomed from the start!


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    #2757
    mrsWhippy
    Registered Users Posts: 673 ✭✭✭mrsWhippy


    We have an appeal in with ABP at the moment. Do they generally take the full 4 months to make their decision? Is there any way of finding out what the status is, or when a decision is likely to be made?
    Cheers


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    #2758
    Angry bird
    Closed Accounts Posts: 808 ✭✭✭Angry bird


    mrsWhippy wrote: »
    We have an appeal in with ABP at the moment. Do they generally take the full 4 months to make their decision? Is there any way of finding out what the status is, or when a decision is likely to be made?
    Cheers

    They will have a decision due date for your one on their website.


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    #2759
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    mrsWhippy wrote: »
    We have an appeal in with ABP at the moment. Do they generally take the full 4 months to make their decision? Is there any way of finding out what the status is, or when a decision is likely to be made?
    Cheers

    They generally take the full allowable time.
    Give them a call, as stated above the due date will be up in their website.


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    #2760
    mrsWhippy
    Registered Users Posts: 673 ✭✭✭mrsWhippy


    BryanF wrote: »
    They generally take the full allowable time.
    Give them a call, as stated above the due date will be up in their website.

    Cheers. I already have the due date .. just wondering if its likely we'd get a decision before then. Its such a long, frustrating process!


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    #2761
    hexosan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭hexosan


    If they could they'd leave it longer just like the councils. I've yet to ever see a planning decision be it a refusal or grant given before the due date.


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