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Car clocking

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  • 23-04-2007 12:16pm
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    drdre
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    I just want to know, whats the best way/ or is there any way to find out if a car is clocked.
    Im thinking of buying a car buy its got no service book.How can i check if its clocked or not.And also can garages find out if its clocked if i buy it and bring it to get checked out.

    Whats your opinion on this.thanks in advance


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    Owen
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    What type of car is it Dre?


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    smash
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    depends... cartell don't have a mileage report yet on their stsyem. Is the car an import?

    what's the make and model? Some franchises hold a databases of their cars and if it's been serviced by a franchise dealer then they'll have a history.


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    drdre
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    im thinking of getting a polo. I already have one but just thinking of changing again :)

    Are you sure cartell doesnt have a milage report.Also would vw garages hold service history.


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    smash
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    if it's been serviced by VW dealers then you might be able to get a service history from them. Just call a few with the reg and ask. what garage is selling the car?


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    Mc-BigE
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    drdre wrote:
    I just want to know, whats the best way/ or is there any way to find out if a car is clocked.
    Im thinking of buying a car buy its got no service book.How can i check if its clocked or not.And also can garages find out if its clocked if i buy it and bring it to get checked out.

    Whats your opinion on this.thanks in advance

    If its got no service book, is sounds to me like the seller is trying to hide something. Find out from the Buyer were the car was last serviced and ring the garage for a report. If its a genuine error or the service book was "lost" its in the sellers interest to give you this information for the best price possbile for selling.

    If its a UK import check with HPI.com

    If its an irish car you could try cartel.ie but i cant recommend them as i've never tried them.

    If the seller doesn't play ball or the service book "suddenly" appears, its best to get the info yourself or walk away.


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    OldmanMondeo
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    VW would only have the service if it was serviced in a VW dealer, even then you would have to know the dealer.

    There is a way via the ECU. The last 3 services are noted on this. There is (I heard) another chip that will have the full log details of the car. A VW dealer or the AA should be able to check this.


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    mickjohnlong
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    if it was services by a vw garage they should have it on there system i dunno if all the vw garages link there systems i.e. if belgard motors can tell if a certain car was serviced in foster motors or in a dealer in cork i know some bmw dealers and merc dealers can do it in the uk anyway when i was finding out about a merc i was looking at rang up one uk dealer they where able to tell me where and when it was in a main dealer and then rang them to find out what was done is the car from a dealer or private person


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    drdre
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    Stevo its private sale.I think i might just buy it.I will then bring it to a garage and find out if it is or not.So theres no real easy way to get it checked.


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    smash
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    Mc-BigE wrote:
    If its got no service book, is sounds to me like the seller is trying to hide something. Find out from the Buyer were the car was last serviced and ring the garage for a report. If its a genuine error or the service book was "lost" its in the sellers interest to give you this information for the best price possbile for selling.

    If its a UK import check with HPI.com

    If its an irish car you could try cartel.ie but i cant recommend them as i've never tried them.

    If the seller doesn't play ball or the service book "suddenly" appears, its best to get the info yourself or walk away.
    I wouldn't agree entirely. a lot of people get their cars serviced by independant mechanics and so they don't have services logged...


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    mickjohnlong
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    ring the seller and ask where its been service and ring them if you do buy it make sure you get all the details of the seller make sure you get his address and meet him at the house i know some who got caught out with a stolen car from a private sale so make sure you do all your checks and are happy with it before you buy what year polo is it


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    maidhc
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    steve06 wrote:
    I wouldn't agree entirely. a lot of people get their cars serviced by independant mechanics and so they don't have services logged...

    Most independent mechanics worth their salt make a record of the jobs they do.


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    quarryman
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    drdre wrote:
    Stevo its private sale.I think i might just buy it.I will then bring it to a garage and find out if it is or not.So theres no real easy way to get it checked.

    where's the logic there? buying it first, then checking it? :confused:


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    drdre
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,245 ✭✭✭drdre


    quarryman wrote:
    where's the logic there? buying it first, then checking it? :confused:

    I know but i donot know how to get it checked, it seems bringing it to the garage is the only way.


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    Mc-BigE
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    maidhc wrote:
    Most independent mechanics worth their salt make a record of the jobs they do.

    agreed, plus there should be at least the receipts for the service parts bought by the previous owners or the independent garage.

    O.P. buying it and checking the history afterwards is crazy.

    i suppose it depends on how old the car is and how much it cost.

    If its a 10 year old polo with 100K on it, then it might be genuine, but if its a 05 or 06 polo with 10K on it, it would be worth checking before buying.


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    quarryman
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    drdre wrote:
    I know but i donot know how to get it checked, it seems bringing it to the garage is the only way.

    if the seller is genuine he will let you bring it to the garage before you buy or at the very least; let a mechanic come look at it. He should be able to tell straight away if its missing 40k miles.


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    drdre
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    steve06 wrote:
    I wouldn't agree entirely. a lot of people get their cars serviced by independant mechanics and so they don't have services logged...

    Yes he said he has serviced it himself.he sounds ok.


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    Owen
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    Dre, get a HPI check done at the very least, and I would also have the AA come to appraise the car, they do this for about 60 Euro IIRC.


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    drdre
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    ned78 wrote:
    Dre, get a HPI check done at the very least, and I would also have the AA come to appraise the car, they do this for about 60 Euro IIRC.

    thanks i will check AA out.


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    Henry Ford III
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    ned78 wrote:
    Dre, get a HPI check done at the very least, and I would also have the AA come to appraise the car, they do this for about 60 Euro IIRC.

    Think €300.


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    drdre
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    ned78 wrote:
    Dre, get a HPI check done at the very least, and I would also have the AA come to appraise the car, they do this for about 60 Euro IIRC.

    HPI cant be done as its an irish car.


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    Owen
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    Henry Ford III wrote:
    Think €300.

    Yup, my bad. The AA kick life off at 225 for what they call a quick check. Might be no harm to see if you know a Mechanic!


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    johnsheehy
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    Have a look at the general condition of the car, seat wear, steering wheel and gear stick wear. I just bought a 99 323 with 36k and f/s/h so its possible to have very little milage on a car. I find garages very accomodating on service records too, give them a call and they will inform you of everything.


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    drdre
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    ned78 wrote:
    Yup, my bad. The AA kick life off at 225 for what they call a quick check. Might be no harm to see if you know a Mechanic!
    225 is abit much as i dont have that much.I think i will just take the risk.


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    Owen
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    drdre wrote:
    HPI cant be done as its an irish car.

    We do HPIs here all the time on Irish Cars. It's about 40 Euro to see if a car has outstanding finance.


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    drdre
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    ned78 wrote:
    We do HPIs here all the time on Irish Cars. It's about 40 Euro to see if a car has outstanding finance.

    Alright thanks, what garage do you work in.


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    Fey!
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    Diagnostic specialists should be able to determine whether or not it's been clocked if they have the right software for the manufacturer.


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    drdre
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    Fey! wrote:
    Diagnostic specialists should be able to determine whether or not it's been clocked if they have the right software for the manufacturer.

    Are they the people in the buy and sell who are the milage correction people?


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    Seth Brundle
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    I believe that Mr.Diagnostic on here may be able to help!


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    Henry Ford III
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    drdre wrote:
    225 is abit much as i dont have that much.I think i will just take the risk.

    www.carcheck.ie

    The day you buy is the day you sell.


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    Mc-BigE
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    You haven't disclosed the age of the car, so i'll make a guess that its a 5 or 6 year old polo with 45K miles, the first thing i would do is bring a mechanic or person that knows a lot about cars with you when viewing, look out for worn drivers seat, worn gearstick, steering wheel,worn peddle rubber covers, check for loose gearchange/movement in the stick, open bonnet look at engine, look for leaks around the sump and head, take off the oil cap look for whitish gunge under the cap, should be just oil. check for suspension knocks and bangs on slow bumpy roads, and try a fully lock on steering both ways to listen for C.V joint noises.


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