Vista VS Internet

Lantis

Apologies if it's been asked, but I did a thread sweep and didn't find anything.

So I just installed Vista on my laptop, and the internet's connecting fine...for the browsers. Everything else, Skype, the sidebar, what have you, all refusing to connect.
They're all listed as exceptions on the firewall and I turned that off anyway, so that's not the problem, I think.

Any ideas?

8T8

Could it be the router ?

Try port forwarding or enabling UPnP ?

Lantis

I'm on a dormitory LAN so I can't access the settings, but everything worked 100% fine up until I installed Vista.

Not even Windows Live Messenger works, and that's usually paired with IE.

matt-dublin

is it possible you have another firewall installed ie, onecare etc?

does the dorm lan definitly allow other internet applications?

Lantis

Definitely. Like I said, I was running them all fine this morning before I ran the installation.

I have NetLimiter running, and when I try to connect with a program it doesn't even register that it's trying to. It's like they're just not allowed have the internet, but I'm positive I'm not running a firewall.

matt-dublin

turn both net limiter and the windows firewall off and see does that fix your problem

Lantis

Just did. No joy.

mathias

Try turning off UAC , see what happens , I'm just at home , but google talk wouldnt work for me with UAC turned on !!

8T8

Well Windows live messenger works over UPnP if it's available so something must be wrong there if it cant get a connection.

In Vista's network and sharing centre section click on customize for your network and if it is set to public change it to private & now see if anything changes (the public mode limits connections).

Also where they any special changes that needed to be made to the network settings to connect to the network in your dorm LAN ?

Lantis

Just turned off UAC and set the network to private. No luck on either front. =/

And no, the internet works right off when you plug in the cable.

EDIT:
Windows Live Messenger's opinion is that I have a firewall up. Does Vista have anything besides Windows Firewall?

8T8

Nope nothing bar the built in firewall which only blocks inbound connections not outbound connections (to a degree), it really sounds like it is a NAT issue and only port 80 apps like web browsers are being allowed out on the network

* Is there anyone else who has a computer on the network verify they have software like Messenger working.

* Is there an admin of the network or someone who looks after it I don't know if you can or not but try asking why net access is restricted.

* In Vista try going into the Network & Sharing Centre\Manage Network Connections section and bring up the properties of your network card now untick support for IPv6

* In the same section if you have more than one network card like wired/wireless right click on the unused one and select disable.

Lantis

OK, I'm currently connecting through a wireless network in the area, and my programs are still blocked so I know it's definitely a problem with Windows itself.
Tried turning off IPv6, no luck there, same with disabling the other network adapter for wired/wireless.

One thing that I've noticed is that when I'm connected with the wired line, it constantly reasserts itself as a public network, despite my setting it to private. Any way I can get it to stop poking at it?

8T8

That is odd what I would try is simply start again from the top. Remove any existing connections on the wired/wireless network so it no longer auto connects.

Run the network connection wizard when plugged into wired link and set it up so that is is set as a Home network with the Private setting. Do you have the same workgroup as the other machines on the wired LAN ?

One other thing you could try is go into control panel\admin tools\services and disable the "Network List Service" this will stop Vista auto detecting the network it might do nothing or stop everything from working so you know how to start it again if need be.