Mayhem - Ordo Ad Chao

smackbunnybaby

Been listening to this a good bit and i am finding it very hard to get into.
Dont get me wrong it is miles better than Chimeira and Grand Declaration but its tough going.
i think i need alot more time at it to be honest, DMDS took me ages to like.

anyone else get this album yet?

neGev

Mayhem have been damn near irrelevant for almost 15 years now, so it's hard to be enthusiastic about OAC. Still, it's good to see Attila back.
I haven't heard the album yet, but I'll probably listen to it sometime in the near future.

John

I haven't heard it either but I've been hearing mixed reviews.

Alucard II

Mayhem suuuuuuuck. also, i dont know whats funnier about this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0HX8d3SKzA - how wasted Nekro is, or how embarrassed Blasphemer is

Undergod

Haha, that's magnificient, someone was actually telling me about that the other day, glad I've now seen it.

John

What a tosser!

Ancient1

neGev wrote:

Mayhem have been damn near irrelevant for almost 15 years now

Irrelevant to what?

neGev

Good music.

Karl Hungus

And what exactly were they 'Relevant' to in the first place? Why does anything need to be relevant anyway? Iron Maiden aren't really relevant to anything, but they're still awesome.

Anyway, relevant/irrelevant, it doesn't matter, because aside from a few good songs, Mayhem really haven't done anything worth **** since De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas. I'm curious to hear them with Attila back, but I won't be running out to buy the album.

Ancient1

Good music.

Well, if you insist on looking at it that way...:p

They don't need to be relevant to anything. It's just music. Either you like it or you don't.
To call them "irrelevant" implies that there was a programme, goal or agenda that should have been adhered to, but they haven't, so they became obsolete or irrelevant.

But anyways, back to the point. I only heard a few tracks so far, but what I heard was incredible.

neGev

Karl Hungus wrote:

And what exactly were they 'Relevant' to in the first place?

One of the most important bands in black metal history? Leaders of the second wave? How is that not relevant?

Karl Hungus wrote:

Why does anything need to be relevant anyway?

If I want to hear some good mid-80's thrash, I'd put on Pleasure to Kill, Bonded By Blood or Darkness Descends, not God Hates Us All.

Karl Hungus wrote:

Mayhem really haven't done anything worth **** since De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas.

That's exactly what I'm saying. If I wanted a good slice of black metal recently, I haven't been looking to Mayhem to fill the gap. There's countless other bands continuing what they started, only doing it better than Mayhem have been.

Perhaps I should qualify my original comment. I like to listen to music that I love, not just like. Given that the ratio of good music to bad music out there is roughly 1:10, it takes time to find the diamonds, as I'm sure you all know. As such, I don't have time for bands that aren't up to scratch.
Since Deathcrush/DMDS/LiL, Mayhem haven't satisfied me, therefore I find them to be irrelevant to my search for good music.

buck65

Is black metal a bit juvenile anyway?

smackbunnybaby

buck65 wrote:

Is black metal a bit juvenile anyway?

maybe to someone who doesn't buy into its ideals and thinking.
but it is possible to like the music and not have anything to do with its background.
To people who are unfamiliar with black metal it's just a bunch of fellas in battle gear posing in the forest.
I am a practicing Christian, doesn't mean i cant listen to Black Metal or NSBM.

John

buck65 wrote:

Is black metal a bit juvenile anyway?

Some of the people involved are a bit juvenile but the music is no more or less juvenile than any other type of metal or whatever genre you care to pick.

Karl Hungus

buck65 wrote:

Is black metal a bit juvenile anyway?

I would say yes, a lot of it is. But then there are incredibly intelligent bands like Emperor, Arcturus, and Enslaved.

HIEROPHANT

smackbunnybaby wrote:

maybe to someone who doesn't buy into its ideals
I am a practicing Christian, doesn't mean i cant listen to Black Metal or NSBM.

OK for NSBM, but for True BM you listen to a music that hates you and that insults you. Ideologically BM wants to destroy christianity, how do you like that? It's your choice eh

On-Topic, as far as I'm concerned, there is only [The True] MayheM, until the death of Euronymous.

smackbunnybaby

HIEROPHANT wrote:

OK for NSBM, but for True BM you listen to a music that hates you and that insults you. Ideologically BM wants to destroy christianity, how do you like that? It's your choice eh

yeah that was my point, you can listen to it but not buy into it...
and as you said its my choice.....

however if i see the count running after me with a pick axe i may change my mind on that


back on Topic - i think the emperor is wearing no clothes.

John

smackbunnybaby wrote:

i think emperor are wearing no clothes.

That's not an image I need

slssprite

Untalented, worthless experimentation. No originality, no catchy riffs, no structure, no idea, nothing. Mayhem should be "buried by time and dust" and become a classic.

I am a practicing Christian, doesn't mean i cant listen to Black Metal or NSBM.

sure, you can listen. It's like smelling a pie all the time without eating it.