Can Mary Lou take a seat in DC?

yomchi

I've been just chatting to some of the shinners down my and they say the figures are adding up to a definite seat for ML. However in chatting to the chairman of the local FF Cumann he said their figures don't put her in with a chance.

The problem with DC (Dublin Central) for Mary Lou is Cabra. Its always been a Nicky Kehoe vote and a personal one too, not so much a SF vote. Can they be guaranteed to get these personal votes to transfer over to Mary Lou?
And Cabra being Cabra, if you're parents, parents don't hail from there you're not a Cabra person, it is a parochial community - Mary Lou is from Ranelagh originally and now living in Clonsilla.

Can it be done?

The_Minister

All I can say is that I hope she doesn't. She is apparently a rare sight in Europe as MEP.

yomchi

Thats true of late, however when she was first elected she was over there pretty much all the time. Then she dropped the kid and it was decided pretty much a long time back that she would be standing in the generals. I reckon she'll be a good addition to the SF team, she'll bring some colour to the grey boring site that is the current rack of TD'S - Aonghas excluded

The_Minister

Jon wrote:

Then she dropped the kid

Is she married? Or did someone get her pregnant? I never heard about this.

EDIT: edited to spare ballooba's feeling (and because it was rude)

yomchi

Yeh she's married alright, big guy too. Can't remember his name off the top of my head but he pretty much stays in the back ground.

Badabing

I can't see 3 left seats in Dublin central. if Mckenna wasn't running Mcdonald would have a better chance, Gregory is safe as is costello and obiously bertie so its 1 from 3.

yomchi

remember how close Kehoe came in 2002? 74 votes short of stepping on berties toes. As I said though, Kehoe is a Cabra man and is known by everyone, ML has some work to do to keep up

kipple

I think the only 2 safe seats are Bertie and Tony with a 3 way fight for the last 2 seats.

T.

Badabing

kipple wrote:

I think the only 2 safe seats are Bertie and Tony with a 3 way fight for the last 2 seats.

T.

Who are your 3?

ballooba

The_Minister wrote:

Is she married? Or did someone knock her up? I never heard about this.

Just the kind of innapropriate question I would expect of the Rottweiler.

yomchi

kipple wrote:

I think the only 2 safe seats are Bertie and Tony with a 3 way fight for the last 2 seats.

T.

Bertie never goes in alone, his surplus will bring in a 2nd FFer, more than likely Brady while Fitzpatrick loses out. Infact Fitzpatrick got barely a mention in the latest FF pamphlet for the area.
Gregory is more than likely safe, for someone that stays relatively quiet on the ground throughout the year he always pulls the rabbit out on the day. Costello isn't as sure as he was in 2002, he tends to go up and down. He worked hard for the 2002 come backbut has been scarce since then, for 2002he piggy backed on the end of the anti-drugs campaigns which garnered him extra votes too.
I would say its
Aherne
Gregory
Brady
McDonald

oscarBravo

Ballooba, you know where the "report post" button is.

The_Minister

ballooba wrote:

Just the kind of innapropriate question I would expect of the Rottweiler.

Your right, that was insensitive of me.
i don't think that McDowell has ever said anything like that though.

ballooba

oscarBravo wrote:

Ballooba, you know where the "report post" button is.

It's not defamatory or abusive or anything like that. Remarks like that just highlight the PDs for what they are.

I'm happy to let them dig a hole for themselves.

The_Minister

ballooba wrote:

I'm happy to let them dig a hole for themselves.

You judge the PDs on what one supporter said?
Very well.
In future, I am going to judge all Fine Gael'ers by Dontico.
Ergo, all FG'ers are traveller-bashing, facists.
Is that fair?
No its not.
All opinions that I give are mine and mine alone.

ballooba

The_Minister wrote:

You judge the PDs on what one supporter said?

Not necessarily one supporter, I observe lots of others on other fora.
Also websites like the one you posted "RainbowSplits.ie". Nice climbdown btw.
The abuse of Dail Privilege by your leader.
The abuse of the Irish language in the Dail by your leader.
The constant negative campaigning.

Also, one thing which I have heard of but has never been confirmed. That McDowell boasted on tv about throwing beer over his wife at a party to get her to leave.

stepbar

Jon wrote:

Mary Lou is from Ranelagh originally and now living in Clonsilla.

Mary Lou originally Fianna Fail now Sinn Fein, talk about a turncoat. I certainly hope she doesnt get next or near government.

oscarBravo

ballooba, The_Minister: on topic, please.

Cyrus

ballooba wrote:

Not necessarily one supporter, I observe lots of others on other fora.
Also websites like the one you posted "RainbowSplits.ie". Nice climbdown btw.
The abuse of Dail Privilege by your leader.
The abuse of the Irish language in the Dail by your leader.
The constant negative campaigning.

Also, one thing which I have heard of but has never been confirmed. That McDowell boasted on tv about throwing beer over his wife at a party to get her to leave.

hahaha if youd ever met or seen mcdowells wife you'd know this couldnt be true, that women would eat him up and spit him out, she lectured me in smurfit.

i hope the pds and ff get in again and that sinn fein go back where they belong, whatever people are thinking voting in socialists, do they even realise what they are doing

arbeitsscheuer

stepbar wrote:

Mary Lou originally Fianna Fail now Sinn Fein, talk about a turncoat. I certainly hope she doesnt get next or near government.

My sentiments exactly.
You know she's disliked by many within the party, members and candidates alike, mostly those on the Left within SF.

It's a pity. I like the more left-wing elements within SF, but people like Mary Lou and Mitchell McLaughlin do serious damage to their image as the "egalitarian", left-of-centre party.

Badabing

Bertie Ahern has alway managed to get a running mate in in Dublin central so if he fails this time it would be a major upset.

arbeitsscheuer

Cyrus wrote:

whatever people are thinking voting in socialists, do they even realise what they are doing

I have a degree in politics and history, and I have as much if not more knowledge of national and international politics as you do.
And I'm a socialist. Hoping that Joe Higgins will be returned from my constituency as TD once again.

I'm pretty sure I realise what I'm doing, but thanks for your concern:rolleyes:

Cyrus

arbeitsscheuer wrote:

I have a degree in politics and history, and I have as much if not more knowledge of national and international politics as you do.
And I'm a socialist. Hoping that Joe Higgins will be returned from my constituency as TD once again.

I'm pretty sure I realise what I'm doing, but thanks for your concern:rolleyes:

oh, ive a degree in business and law and a masters degree in accountancy and im a qualified aca accountant, and i have as much if not more knowledge than you about how the 'real world' works.

letting labour, the greens or sinn fein in is potentially disastrous for our economy

stepbar

Cyrus wrote:

oh, ive a degree in business and law and a masters degree in accountancy and im a qualified aca accountant, and i have as much if not more knowledge than you about how the 'real world' works.

letting labour, the greens or sinn fein in is potentially disastrous for our economy

Explain how Labour and the Greens are potentially disastrous for the economy?

yomchi

stepbar wrote:

Mary Lou originally Fianna Fail now Sinn Fein, talk about a turncoat. I certainly hope she doesnt get next or near government.

:rolleyes: God forbid no one can take a more positive turn in their politics. Mary Lou was a 'green FFer' she was an active Republican while she was within FF. She was a member of the INC of which Robert Ballagh was chair and founder. She found SF to be more in tune with her line of politics after a brief stay in FF and more power to her.
As for turn coats.. where do I start? How many parties has Pat Rabbitte been a member of?
What about Berties failed election promises, turn coat? and MacDowell the PD watch dog??

The_Minister

stepbar wrote:

Explain how Labour and the Greens are potentially disastrous for the economy?

Labour say they oppose raising corporation tax (we all know why thats bad-flight of business, jobs etc), but they support European tax harmonisation, which in effect would raise our corporation tax.
The Greens keep dodging questions about implementing the national motorway plan, leading some to believe that they want to scrap it.

Thats just one reason for each there are many others

NOTE: I do not believe that the economy will fall apart just because the Greens or Labour are involved.

Cyrus

as above, listen to the tanaiste he has explained all of this before.

at labours core is a belief that corporations and wealthy individuals should subsidise everyone else, increasing corporation tax will remove irelands (given the increase in labour costs) diminishing competitive advantage.

added to that sargant and rabbitt are idiots

stepbar

Cyrus wrote:

as above, listen to the tanaiste he has explained all of this before.

at labours core is a belief that corporations and wealthy individuals should subsidise everyone else, increasing corporation tax will remove irelands (given the increase in labour costs) diminishing competitive advantage.

added to that sargant and rabbitt are idiots

Our competitive advantages are already being eroded!! It cant get much worse under FG / Labour. You have to remember that FG wont agree to an increase in Corpo Tax. Nor will FF. So Labour wont have much say on that one. Ill point you to this post which sums up what FF have contributed to the economy

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=53180245&postcount=13

yomchi

stepbar wrote:

Our competitive advantages are already being eroded!! It cant get much worse under FG / Labour. You have to remember that FG wont agree to an increase in Corpo Tax. Nor will FF. So Labour wont have much say on that one. Ill point you to this post which sums up what FF have contributed to the economy

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=53180245&postcount=13

Q.F.T!

highlight100

I think Mc Kenna has the best chance in poaching the second FF seat,Gregory and Costello should poll well enough to follow Bertie over the line.The FG man Donohoe will poll better than Mary Lou.

A Dub in Glasgo

The_Minister wrote:

Or did someone get her pregnant?

Of course someone got her pregnant or do you believe in devine intervention?