Gun cabinet in a garage

Our man in Havana

Is it ok to put your gun cabient in a garage or does it have to be inside the actual dwelling house? What is acceptable?

bullets

Dunno, but if you want it out of sight or out of the way
what about installing it under your stairs (if your not living in a Bungalow)

~B

macnab

Or in the attic.

Sparks

Ultimately, it's going to depend on the opinion of the local Superintendent (and/or the Commissioner if/when the rest of the Act is commenced).

Personally, I would worry about external access to the garage, whether or not children had easy access to the safe, things like that. But I'm a little paranoid about such things (for good reason).

Would the garage not be damper?
If so, then I wouldn't as the guns might get a bit rusty

maglite

it would depend on what you call garage

can didder alot from a shot to a place with pure wool carpet for the harley

rrpc

maglite wrote:

can didder alot from a shot to a place with pure wool carpet for the harley

Got a cold Maglite?

Sparks

a place with pure wool carpet for the harley

Good grief. Why would you get a harley? I mean, seriously, where would you put the rifle?

Seriously, if damp is a major concern, o_p's right; if it's not serious, then the light-bulb-in-the-false-bottom-of-the-safe-and-a-few-sachets-of-silica-gel trick should work to keep the rifles in good condition.

Sparks

Sparks wrote:

Good grief. Why would you get a harley? I mean, seriously, where would you put the rifle?

Seriously, if damp is a major concern, o_p's right; if it's not serious, then the light-bulb-in-the-false-bottom-of-the-safe-and-a-few-sachets-of-silica-gel trick should work to keep the rifles in good condition.

Works even better when you have an OCM to dry out the silica gel every week!

First time it has been done in years!

cantona

Generally the recommended positioning of a safe states "in an internal room with no outside access" ie attic or under the stairs

mallards

I put mine in the back of the wardrobe with the rawl bolts fixed through it, into the wall. You wouldn't think of looking there for a gun!....... until now!


Mallards.

Degsy

It may well be easier for a bad guy to gain access to a garage than a house,it could even happen when you're IN the house and you wouldnt know anything about it.Its not impossible to lever a safe off a wall eiither and i reckon you'd be safer having it within your house.

Our man in Havana

I could put it in my wardrobe but the walls in my house are wooden so I don't know if the safe would stay on the wall. The only stone walls are in the kitchen but it would be obvious if I had vistors in the house.

Degsy

Bond-007 wrote:

I could put it in my wardrobe but the walls in my house are wooden so I don't know if the safe would stay on the wall. The only stone walls are in the kitchen but it would be obvious if I had vistors in the house.

Hmm,best thing to do would be to ask the FAO before you install the safe.

Smirky

I had mine in my garage before moving house. Was bolted to the wall & into the ground & covered by a cupboard so it was not obvious or on view to any vistors, nor visible to anyone should I have the garage door open.

It was inspected by the FAO / CPO and there were no problems. The only major difference here though was that I had a monitored alarm throughout the house & garage & I had a seperate Panic Zone attached to the safe so should it be tampered with it would send a specific message to the alarm monitoring co & the Gardai.

Have same set up in new house ..... but no garage!

Clare gunner

Well,you could always buy another" fridge"[old junker ] and gut it and put it over the gun safe and hide it that way. Who is going to look for guns in the fridge?;)

cavan shooter

There is a publication that can be downloaded from the British Home office on Firearms security. It is called "Firearms security handbook 2005" well worth reading and will point you in a few directions.
To Quote
Under most circumstances, it is preferable that firearms should be secured within the occupied part of the structure. Separate, detached buildings, or those attached but having only external access (eg outhouses, garages etc) should not be used unless the levels of security warrant it. If used, these could also be protected by an intruder alarm linked to the household.

it further goes onto say
that where you want to use a garage (integral garage), the type of block etc is of importance.

Where this is uk guidance as it could be argued as best practice to follow this,in absence of Irish guidance of a similiar matter I followed this when positioning my safe etc. common sense approach

cavan shooter

Degsy wrote:

Hmm,best thing to do would be to ask the FAO before you install the safe.

Look at the firearms security handbook 2005....gives you some pointers
To quote:
Fixings for security devices form an important part of the overall resistance to attack.
Fastening to timber studded walls should be avoided, unless some additional anchorage can be
provided. Floor or roof joists (subject to the previous comments) are acceptable. Walls of brick,
concrete or masonry are usually the best bonding materials. It is important that the fixing chosen
is correct for that material (eg expanding bolts, chemical anchors, toggle bolts etc).