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1st time marathon runner - from the couch to 26m

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  • 15-05-2007 10:13am
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    Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭


    Ok, been running for a couple of months now but have only ever run race, BUPA 10k a month ago.

    At the moment running 3/4 times a week with a round of golf thrown in


    Aim: To run the Dublin Marathon in Oct

    Starting point:
    Started running to get fit in March
    Not even basic fitness and no stamina

    Last Week:
    Monday - 5k pace run / round of Pitch & Putt
    Tuesday - 10 mile slow run
    Thursday - 9 mile slow run
    Saturday - 18 holes golf

    This Week:
    Monday - 13 mile slow run
    Tuesday - 5k / driving range
    Wed - 10k pace run
    Friday - 18 holes golf
    Saturday - 10k with intervals on grass


    Q: Should I build weights into the program ? I only mean dumbells for arms/chest
    Q: Would some speed work show improvements for such a large distance ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    weights swill help if you want to lose fat/build muscle or look better but will not make you a faster marathon runner

    Speedwork will make you faster at any distance. but you've got to do the correct speedwork for the distance.

    As it's your first marathon, I would suggest looking at some training programmes to follow. Good one's include
    Hal Higdon and
    Runners world.

    If you have any other questions just ask. I've run a few marathons ;) Dublin is a great first race. It's a very friendly marathon. Two pieces of advice that have stuck with me for a first time are
    1. Enjoy your first marathon. If you hate it you won't be back for another.
    2. Have a time goal. Don't just say you want to finish. Noone sets out to not finish. The goal might be to finish in less than 5 hours but it's a concrete goal to work towards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    weights swill help if you want to lose fat/build muscle or look better but will not make you a faster marathon runner

    Speedwork will make you faster at any distance. but you've got to do the correct speedwork for the distance.

    As it's your first marathon, I would suggest looking at some training programmes to follow. Good one's include
    Hal Higdon and
    Runners world.

    Yup, have been looking at Hal Higdon and it seems the best bet to keep to a schedule.
    If you have any other questions just ask. I've run a few marathons ;) Dublin is a great first race. It's a very friendly marathon. Two pieces of advice that have stuck with me for a first time are
    1. Enjoy your first marathon. If you hate it you won't be back for another.
    2. Have a time goal. Don't just say you want to finish. Noone sets out to not finish. The goal might be to finish in less than 5 hours but it's a concrete goal to work towards

    My goal would be 4hrs by the time the marathon comes around but I'm a long way off that pace at:
    25mins for 5k
    2hrs 15 for a half marathon during my slow run

    I do aim to enjoy it though and considering I was nowhere this time 4 months ago finishing it will leave me more than happy also.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    4 hours is a very respectible goal. Try to include the odd tempo run to see if you're likely to have the speed. Good luck. This is a log I look forward to following.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Follow up:

    Week: 14/05/07 - 20/05/07

    Monday - 13 mile slow run - done
    Tuesday - 5k / driving range - done
    Wednesday - 10k pace run - done
    Thursday - 9 holes golf - done
    Friday - 9 holes golf - done
    Saturday - 5k with sprints on grass -done
    Sunday - 5k at pace on road - done

    Totals: Running: 45 k / Other sports 4hrs - Note: Easy week after 3 longer weeks previously


    Coming Week: 21/05/07 - 27/05/07
    Monday - 12/13 mile long run - 9 miles done & round of Par 3 golf
    Tuesday - 5k pace / driving range - 10k done
    Wednesday - 10k tempo run (near race pace)
    Thursday - 10 miles or indoor football & 10k
    Friday - Rest
    Saturday - 14 miles
    Sunday - Rest (GAA season, travelling)

    Totals: Running 70k



    I know I don't build my rest days into the week well but I am busy at weekends so use those as break days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Follow up:

    Week: 21/05/07 - 27/05/07
    Monday - 12/13 mile long run - 9 miles done & round of Par 3 golf
    Tuesday - 5k pace / driving range - 10k done
    Wednesday - 10k tempo run (near race pace) - 10k done
    Thursday - 10 miles or indoor football & 10k - 5k done
    Friday - Rest - 9 miles done
    Saturday - 14 miles - driving range
    Sunday - Rest (GAA season, travelling)

    Total covered: 55k

    Week: 28/05/07 - 3/06/07
    Monday 11.5 miles - done
    Tuesday 10 miles

    Add more later, need to get back into the long distances now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Week: 28/05/07 - 3/06/07
    Monday 11.5 miles - done
    Tuesday 9 miles - done
    Wednesday - Rest: Driving Range
    Thursday - 10k run - 1hr indoor football
    Friday - rest/travelling
    Saturday - Golf & 10k on beach/grass


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Week: 28/05/07 - 3/06/07
    Monday 11.5 miles - done
    Tuesday 9 miles - done
    Wednesday - Rest: Driving Range - done
    Thursday - 10k run - 1hr indoor football - done
    Friday - rest/travelling
    Saturday - 18 holes Golf - done took 5hrs, no time for run
    Sunday - 5k tempo - done

    Got a foot injury, runners fit too well I'm led to believe, off to sports shop again....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Week 04/06/07 - 10/06/07

    Monday - Bank Holiday/Travelling
    Tuesday - 10 miles
    Wednesday - Par 3 golf & 10k run
    Thursday - rest
    Friday - beach for the day :cool:
    Saturday - misc sports, group days out
    Sunday - 10 miles


    May the good weather continue.....
    Now up to 1 stone lost since starting, need to do some core exercises for stamina and a few weights, pretty hard to build that in but where there is a will etc.


    At start:
    W- 12st 7
    H- 5' 9"
    Max distance - approx 1 mile at 95% of MHR

    After 3 months:
    W- 11st 7
    H-5' 9"
    Max distance - approx 13 1/2 -14 miles at 82% of MHR

    Aim for 3 months from now:
    W- 11st 1
    H-5' 9" (confident of this one...)
    Max distance - 18/19 miles at under 85% average MHR


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭bubthatub


    can you tell me when you do a slow run how long does it take or do you just run at a slow pace until you get round the milege you set out to do.

    can u tell me have you changed your diet much since you started running


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    bubthatub

    can you tell me when you do a slow run how long does it take or do you just run at a slow pace until you get round the milege you set out to do.

    For anything 10k and up in training i'd run at a 10 minute mile.
    For 3k- 5k - 8k i'd try to stay under or at 5 mins a kilometer


    can u tell me have you changed your diet much since you started running

    Well i've given up the drink.
    I've stopped snacking through the day.
    Eat 3 times during the day, still have things like yogurts and cereal bars at those times but nothing in between.

    Still eat a good bit of dairy and very little fruit/veg, i try to counter that with proper fruit juice and knorr vie etc.

    Also at least 2 litres of water a day.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Week 11/06/07 - 17/06/07

    Monday - 5K pace - done
    Tuesday - 10k - done
    Wednesday - 12miles - done
    Thursday - indoor football - done
    Friday - Rest
    Saturday - undecided
    Sunday - 10 miles

    Projected week total - 34 miles / 54K
    (with possibly another 10k made up of intervals i.e. 12x400m & 5k)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Week 11/06/07 - 17/06/07

    Monday - 5K pace - done
    Tuesday - 10k - done
    Wednesday - 12miles - done
    Thursday - indoor football - done
    Friday - Rest
    Saturday - Rest
    Sunday - 18 holes golf - bit of a slack weekend

    pretty bad week but felt fine this Monday on long run and I'm ticking over fine.


    Week 18/06/07 - 24/06/07

    Monday - 11 miles - done
    Tuesday - 5k pace & core exercises - done
    Wednesday - 10k race tempo & dumbbells & core exercises
    Thursday - indoor football / 10 miles
    Friday - rest
    Sat - adidas 5 mile course for a prep
    Sunday - undecided


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Week 18/06/07 - 24/06/07

    Monday - 11 miles - done
    Tuesday - 5k pace & core exercises - done
    Wednesday - 10k race tempo & dumbbells & core exercises - rest
    Thursday - indoor football / 10 miles - done
    Friday - Crowded House Gig -
    Sat - Pink Gig -
    Sunday - rest

    Week 25/06/07 - 01/06/07

    Monday - 12 miles - done
    Tuesday - Aerosmith Gig
    Wednesday - 5 miles (same profile as adidas challenge)- done
    Thursday - indoor football / 10k
    Friday - 14 miles (need to up things a bit)
    Sat - travelling
    Sunday - 10 miles


    Weekly logs on Polar watch show me I'm doing roughly 4 1/2 to 5hrs most weeks, my equivalent would be 6mph or 10kph so that leaves me on 30 miles or so at the moment.

    With 17/18 weeks to Marathon I'll be starting to up my long run by 1 mile every 10 days or so.

    Ongoing program:
    1 run of approx 9 - 12 miles per week
    1 run of 5-8k for pace
    1 run of 10k as it's a compromise between stamina and adding some tempo.

    1 long run starting at 13/14 miles and increasing, to peak at 21/22 miles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    On holidays last week so only managed a 10k on Friday morning when I got home.

    Monday 09/07 - 10k
    Tuesday 10/07 - 5 miles
    Wednesday 11/07 - 10k
    Thursday 12/07 - 5 miles & possibly indoor footie
    Friday 13/07 - rest
    Sat 14/07 - Pheonix Park 5 miler

    Keeping the milage low to suit the race on Sat, the recovery to run at a decent pace on Sat wouldn't be great if I ran over 2hrs so leaving it until next week.

    Milage for week - 27


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Week 16/07/07 - 22/07/07

    Sunday
    Monday - 10k
    Tuesday - 12 miles & par3 golf
    Wednesday - rest
    Thursday 10k & indoor football
    Friday - rest
    Sat - rest & par3 golf
    Sunday - 10 miles

    34 miles approx - 54k

    This week 23/07/07
    Monday 10k (hill work) & pitch & putt

    Am well on schedule according to the likes of Hal Higdon so will stick with it for the moment and keep my short runs longer than his as it's getting all about stamina for me now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Been a while but the miles are still stacking up:

    Last week:
    Monday: 9 miles
    Tuesday: 6 miles
    Wednesday: 6 miles
    Thursday: 12 miles
    Friday/Sat/Sun - rest & croke park 2 days

    This week:
    Monday: 12 miles
    Tuesday: 10k
    Wed: 10k
    Thursday: Indoor footie

    Prob not considered enough for a marathon at the moment, but i know my body could hack it if I had to do one in the morning.

    Am down to 11st 3 from 12st 7 in 4 months and it's falling slowly but steadily so happy out.

    Targeting around 10 10 for the marathon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Been a while but the miles are still stacking up:

    Last week:
    Monday: 9 miles
    Tuesday: 6 miles
    Wednesday: 6 miles
    Thursday: 12 miles
    Friday/Sat/Sun - rest & croke park 2 days

    This week:
    Monday: 12 miles
    Tuesday: 10k
    Wed: 10k
    Thursday: Indoor footie

    Prob not considered enough for a marathon at the moment, but i know my body could hack it if I had to do one in the morning.

    Am down to 11st 3 from 12st 7 in 4 months and it's falling slowly but steadily so happy out.

    Targeting around 10 10 for the marathon.

    Down to 11st now so 21lbs lost so far.

    Monday: 12 miles
    Tuesday: 10k
    Wed: 10k
    Thursday: Indoor footie
    Above From last Log:
    Friday: 10k
    Sat: Croker
    Sun: Croker

    Last week:
    Monday: 10k
    Tuesday: 9 1/2 miles & indoor footie
    Wednesday: p&p
    Thursday: round of golf
    Friday: travelling
    Sat: round of golf
    Sunday(yesterday): 10k


    10 mile run in Pheonix Park this Saturday morning so need to cover that today and wed in preperation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Week - Monday 13/08 - Sunday 19/08

    Monday - 11.5/12 miles
    Tuesday - Indoor football
    Wednesday - 6 miles
    Thursday - rest
    Friday - rest
    Saturday - 10 miles in Phoenix Park
    Sunday - rest


    This week: 20/08 - 27/08
    Yesterday - 7 miles
    Today - 15 miles (starting of Marathon countdown)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    week: 20/08 - 26/08
    Monday - 7 miles
    Tuesday - 13 miles
    Wednesday - Golf (18 holes)
    Thursday - rest
    Friday - 10 miles
    Saturday - Golf (18 holes)
    Sunday - 10k

    36 miles total

    Week 27/08 - 2/09
    Monday - 9 miles
    Tuesday - 15.5 miles

    All completed, 9 weeks to marathon, 1 mile a week now and a few weeks to taper back. Gonna be tough as I'm in the US next week and have 2 weddings in Oct.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    In the US last week, had gear with me but humidity was so severe I didn't even try it.

    Since getting back

    Sat - 10k
    Sun - 5k pace
    Mon - 10 miles
    Tues -10k

    Will do something over 10m today and then rest up for half marathon on Sat.

    Still haven't got over 15/16 miles but not worried as still have 3 weeks to run into that and two weeks to step it down before the 26.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    22/09 Half Marathon

    Last week:
    Mon - 10k
    Tues - 10k
    Wed- rest
    Thurs - 17.5m
    Fri - rest
    Sat -rest
    Sun - rest

    Yesterday - 10k
    Today - 18.5/19m


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    1 week to go.
    Been a quiet month.
    Have been ticking over though despite weddings and a groin twinge of sorts.

    Will take it easy this week also and whatever happens between now and Monday I'll take the line and finish it out run/jog/walk or crawl.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭c0rk3r


    Been following your progress from the begining. All the best on Monday


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus



    Will take it easy this week also and whatever happens between now and Monday I'll take the line and finish it out run/jog/walk or crawl.

    Well you have done all your prep work so you will make it to finish line. Don't get too caught up in timings its your first marathon and you only get one of them,so enjoy it. Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Man that was tough, my legs weren't able after 18/19 miles but shuffled along to finish in around 5hrs.
    A great experience though and a long way from where I was 12 months ago, hindsight will benefit my a lot though and the training for Cork/Dublin next year will be far stricter.

    Well done to all who finished and t'was a great day weatherwise.


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