Ahern v Kenny tonight

darkman2

Miriam 'under a fine gael government would it be any different?' - Long silence..............'eh'

Time Magazine

Jackz wrote:

he has never achieved anytihng

Bertie said that of Joe Higgins too, is that the standard FF smear these days?

Villain

Jackz wrote:

Kenny with his smiling and smug shaking his head, he has never achieved anytihng. Who does this man appeal to?

While Bertie has overseen 10 years of a health system in a mess and says the health system is not a mess and he should be credited with sorting it, sounds smug to me.

brianthebard

Jackz wrote:

Kenny with his smiling and smug shaking his head, he has never achieved anytihng. Who does this man appeal to?

He's successfully kept his seat for 32 years and been a minister. What have you achieved?

Mental Mickey

If Rabbitte & Kenny get into government, I'll f**kin emigrate!!! Ireland's very own version of Beavis & Butt-head, methinks??

Enda Kenny is coming across really poor....and Miriam O Callaghan is a brutal chairperson. A debate like this should've been chaired by John Bowman. He'd know how to handle Enda & Bertie.

Stimpyone

irish1 wrote:

Dublin may be the capital of this state but it is not the only county in the state;)

It's called a roll out people!.... these things have been on trail for the last 8 months in parts of south Dublin..

but i degress, my point is he's gotten his facts wrong a few times now.

The_Minister

brianthebard wrote:

He's successfully kept his seat for 32 years and been a minister. What have you achieved?

He wasn't a very good minister though.

whassupp2

Bertie keeps interupting enda:eek:

Mental Mickey

whassupp2 wrote:

Bertie keeps interupting enda:eek:

....and vice versa

galactus

POW! Enda lands a right-hook on Education. Bertie struggling changes the subject to planning.

Marcus.Aurelius

Don't make comments too personal guys! Let's keep the forum clean as long as we can.

Gobán Saor

brianthebard wrote:

Lolz Kenny is laughing at Ahern now, and really killing him on the transport issue.

Bertie is very weak on the transport issue. Enda could have exploited it more effectively I thought - could have gone on a rant about M50, mad cow, etc.

Moved onto education now, though.

simu

funktastic wrote:

Jesus no humour in this at all

Yeah. Bicker bicker bicker.

zuutroy

maoleary wrote:

Don't make comments too personal guys! Let's keep the forum clean as long as we can.

More passion here than on the TV!

techie

I was unsure before the debate on who to vote for but from what I have seen so far its going to be a vote for FG/Labour. They seem to be more realistic in what they are planning to do.

Villain

Stimpyone wrote:

It's called a roll out people!.... these things have been on trail for the last 8 months in parts of south Dublin..

but i degress, my point is he's gotten his facts wrong a few times now.

How many years ago did the Gardai look for them and how long ago did a Dail Commitee agree that vest should be available.

No winners but Kenny did better than expected imo

brianthebard

The_Minister wrote:

He wasn't a very good minister though.

Why is that? For all of the whingers about his experience no one has shown that he was a bad minister

Dave!

Closing remarks now......

nesf

redspider wrote:

True, the debate will only be for political 'fans', however the result will get out via the media, etc, by 'osmosis' and the follow-up.

I definitely think that the analysis afterwards will be the big influence factor. Bertie got called up on past failures/broken promises, Enda got caught out on the beds costing, experience and crime statistics/guards. Plenty to talk about on both sides imho.

Jean Dwyer

techie wrote:

I was unsure before the debate on who to vote for but from what I have seen so far its going to be a vote for FG/Labour. They seem to be more realistic in what they are planning to do.

As much as i hate to admit it I agree

jon1981

go on Enda with the cupla focal!!! lol that was cheezy!

is_that_so

Good defensive jab from Bertie "When you were last at the cabinet table Enda Kenny..........."

Reminds me of Ireland v Egypt all those years ago. :rolleyes:
That can only be good for the man with momentum, Kenny. The cupla focal will help as well. Can't help feeling that we are looking at the last days of Bertie.

OPENROAD

what the hell is Kenny talking about, can we have subtitles please

The_Minister

brianthebard wrote:

Why is that? For all of the whingers about his experience no one has shown that he was a bad minister

He wasn't AFAIK. The problem is that he did not distinguish himself in the job. At all. He din't really do anything.

_Kaiser_

Bloody Kenny and his Irish speech at the end. Just comes off as smart-assed to me. I think Bertie did better overall.

Dave!

Enda talking as Gaeilge!!! :eek: Why is he alienating us non-Gaeilgoirs?

As an aside, does the Taoiseach speak the cupla focail?

Jackz

brianthebard wrote:

He's successfully kept his seat for 32 years and been a minister. What have you achieved?

lol Bertia Ahern has achieved alot more! Im not a politician but I have the right to criticise one. Its a democracy much to the disapointment of people like Enda Kenny who will lecture me and suddenly pretend he is strong in the support of business this evening considering its not in his polocies!

lol Enda Kennedy

galactus

POW! Enda lands a right hook with a cupla focal.

sapper

Berties 4 words of Irish vs Enda's 40!

Marcus.Aurelius

God I hope ppl don't do anything stupid and vote the Soldiers of Failure back in. Another 10 years of stealth tax.