Ahern v Kenny tonight

The Rooster

Still 0-0.

The ref's looking well. Bizarrely

Marcus.Aurelius

Enda is winning on the economy, I can't stand the way Bertie is darting his eyes around and blabbing about how great he was when the economy took off! Of course things improved! There was more money, things had to get better. The issue is that FF raped the economy. :mad:

Jackz

Enda doing some issue stealing now.

JackieChan

I think Enda is doing well and I'd be a FF voter

bowsie casey

How many times did Enda mention "the woman from Trim" and "the man in Tralee", etc. Seems like he's trying to mention a town from each county before end of night....
You'd know he's a teacher - Geography must've been his favourite.

brianthebard

maoleary wrote:

Enda is winning on the economy

Definitely. Promising to use his veto in Europe as well, those are big words for such a eurocentric party. He's making a lot of points though:D

The_Minister

Ibid wrote:

Bertie referring to the 2002 Budget as "corrective action". He's asking for it...

It was. I never liked how FF shafted McCreevy for doing the (economically) right thing.

zuutroy

Onkle wrote:

'Hospital is only open 20 years' :D:D:D

That doesnt mean the equipment cant be 30 years old...I think Enda's winning

Jackz

zuutroy wrote:

That doesnt mean the equipment cant be 30 years old...I think Enda's winning

rofl

brianthebard

Value added jobs???

Roanmore

6ix wrote:

It's amazing - this thread seems to think Bertie is winning. This thread on politics.ie thinks Enda's winning

That's probably due to FF getting their spin doctors on here. For what it's worth I think neither of them have landed any blows and the whole this has gone flat

Time Magazine

The_Minister wrote:

It was. I never liked how FF shafted McCreevy for doing the (economically) right thing.

Cutting social welfare payments for disabled children is not corrective action. It's not just how much you cut, it's what you cut.

Villain

Enda is doing better than expected on the economy, he is keeping it local, always mentioning towns and issues people will relate to. Bertie is too dismisive.

bowsie casey

Did you see the way Enda dropped the Tourism part of his portfolio when he was asked about his lack of experience.

MOC said he was minister for trade & tourism....he described himself as Minister for Trade. Sounds more serious doesn't it ?

OPENROAD

Roanmore wrote:

That's probably due to FF getting their spin doctors on here. For what it's worth I think neither of them have landed any blows and the whole this has gone flat

Gone very very flat, yawn!

brianthebard

When the fark did FF sort out insurance???

Agent J

I wish i actually had played a drinking game.

Definatly a snooze fest.

However i would say the Enda is a lot more calm and composed than Ahern.

gandalf

Feck forgot this was on.

The last couple of minutes have been quite boring but I'd definately give Miriam my first preference

zuutroy

Jesus...I wish they'd take an ad break...Its heavy going

Marcus.Aurelius

Bertie is still gabbing about the past, not the current. We were raped for 10 years and we're still thanking him for it. ROFL

bowsie casey

zuutroy wrote:

Jesus...I wish they'd take an ad break...Its heavy going

There are no breaks....get out to kitchen and make a cup of tea

Time Magazine

Any FF-leaning/floating people willing to admit Enda is doing well?

As a bluey, I still think Bertie is doing well.

johnnyrotten

"We have costed every one of our proposals"
He was a teacher - Hope he was'nt a Maths teacher

nesf

Ibid wrote:

Any FF-leaning/floating people willing to admit Enda is doing well?

Enda started poorly but has gathered up a fair amount of momentum as it's gone on.

bowsie casey

Did anyone notice EK talking about "Taoiseach-ship" earlier on ? First time I heard that....

zuutroy

Enda is doing a better job of pandering to Joe Soap....Bertie is talking like its Taoiseach's Questions

OPENROAD

gandalf wrote:

Feck forgot this was on.

The last couple of minutes have been quite boring but I'd definately give Miriam my first preference

No give me Emily Maitlis any day of the week.

brianthebard

zuutroy wrote:

Enda is doing a better job of pandering to Joe Soap....Bertie is talking like its Taoiseach's Questions

Something he often doesn't turn up to.

lockon...

OTK wrote:

My choice

mine too

The_Minister

brianthebard wrote:

When the fark did FF sort out insurance???

McDowell brought in the PIAB. Since this, the average insurance cost has falling steadily

Enda hitting hard