Who won the debate on RTE

zuutroy

So...try to leave your political partisan at the door and give an honest answer!

CK.1

Draw

zuutroy

How do I add a poll again?

super_furry

I'm tempted to say that they both lost, but Enda Kenny had the slight edge in a horribly dull affair. It wouldn't inspire me to vote for either of them.

cm2000

ahern

danindublin

Enda was unbelievably bad!!!! :eek:

My mind is made up!

Bring Bertie Back!!!!

yomchi

I thought Kenny was good. Didn't get as hyper as Bertie and had all his facts laid out well. Fair play to Miriam for going at Berties finances.

is_that_so

CK.1 wrote:

Draw

Ditto , so Kenny benefits more, seeing as FG are riding high in the polls.

Marshy

Bertie. Enda was very poor I thought. Kept on repeating same meaningless statements and party mantras. Ahern was well prepared and got one over him I think.

radioman

Bertie shaded it. Had plenty of clever retorts to Enda's 'contract'. No killer punches from either side though.

djfattony2000

Bertie, by a mile.

I.S.T.

Started off well but quickly got very boring.

I reckon it was a draw too.

whassupp2

Bertie won.
Enda stafted where that eejit Noonan finished, criticising the opposition left, right and centre instead of selling himself. I dont want a leader thats goin to keep blaming everything on others. keep bertie

Dcully

Bertie, by a mile

Get real,it was 50/50 imo

Ghost Train

Yeah you should add a poll

Thought Berti came across better

brianthebard

Kenny stayed calm and didn't fold under pressure. Ahern lost imo, wasn't convincing about the governments track record, refused to answer questions on transport when he was pulled up on them, and couldn't show us anything about his plans for the next government that suggested movement forward.

leninbenjamin

they were both sh*te. watered down bullplop, none of them went into any concrete detail on how they are going to provide the things they promise.

Lennoxschips

Enda came across as polite and made coherent points instead of just rambling on like Bertie, who was a bit of a bully and spent most of his time trying to set up straw man arguments.

Jonny Arson

Boring draw, no knock-out punches from either side.

Kenny started off better, won health,
Ahern improved, won economy
After that stalemate.

Ahern was louder and more forceful which some people will say we won because of that
Kenny came across more sincere and didn't resort to as much spin as Ahern, more statesmanlike

However, If it was Richard Bruton instead of Enda he would have destroyed Ahern

Satisfactory draw for Kenny, no disaster which is what matters for him

Black Sky

a draw i think, but I think Kenny will have attracted more admirers as a result of it, as he did come across as Taoiseach material, while Bertie's peformance was a tad below what he has shown he can deliver in the past.

rollie

health kenny, crime berti (which i was surprised at), transport edna, houseing berti, future plans berti....so thats 2:3 by my count

Aquos76

Bertie shaded it in my opinion.

whassupp2

Jonny Arson wrote:

However, If it was Richard Bruton instead of Enda he would have destroyed Ahern

I think i agree

chump

boring boring no score draw...

Marshy

Lennoxschips wrote:

Enda came across as polite and made coherent points instead of just rambling on like Bertie, who was a bit of a bully and spent most of his time trying to set up straw man arguments.

On the contrary, it was enda who kept on interrupting and was talking waffle for much of the debate. Bertie was calmer and made points with more substance.

fintan

Neither landed a killer blow, which is disapointing, there were a lot of things Enda could have laid the smack down with but didn't, they both played it very safe.

I feel overall Bertie won.

Enda allowed Bertie to talk over him too much
Bertie had better body language and seemed more in control of the situation than Enda.

I wasn't inspired by either of them and I have no idea why they didn't look into the camera for the closing speeches.

Kevin2006

Enda won. Bertie was rattled

cm2000

i think by dominating the debate and being more forcefull and direct bertie showed better taoiseach qualities

RazielDoomgate

enda lost the health completly.. he may have started strong as health is he strong point.. ended going round in circles..
bertie came into his own in the ecomony round.. he knew his figures and it should... while enda looked through his sheets for help.
end bertie looked much stronger confident and gets my vote

leninbenjamin

Marshy wrote:

On the contrary, it was enda who kept on interrupting and was talking waffle for much of the debate. Bertie was calmer and made points with more substance.

they both interrupted when it suited them.

segadreamcast

Ah now Marshy... I'm not sure who won it, but I do know one fact as thus:

Bertie Ahern definitely interrupted far, far more.

One statement I will say I agree with is this:

"Kenny came across more sincere and didn't resort to as much spin as Ahern, more statesmanlike"