Today I saw an abandoned classic and took a pic thread!

kev1.3s

cant believe that, ass holes!

okistag

carchaeologist wrote: »

Its always the same with big motors,no one wants them because of the percieved cost,yet people will throw away money buying new cars no problem! Anyone have an idea of the price of that when new 15 years ago?
I love those Daimlers/jags,they are great cars.

Hi Carchaeologist

They were around 168000 back then after VRT and VAT.

J

Mr Benevolent

okistag wrote: »

Hi Carchaeologist

They were around 168000 back then after VRT and VAT.

J

The poor car. I'd have bought it off him if it meant saving that car. And I'm on the dole!

kasper

whoever put the forks through it needs a good kick up the behind and then the sack

Ali Babba

okistag wrote: »

A friend and I went past that Jag / Dam today in hope of getting a few spares for our own Jag's. My buddie went by yesterday and told me the parts were all there and she was intact. We wanted interior and chrome bits also the modules etc.

As you can see from the photo posted earlier it looked okay. He told the guy there we would be back today and he said he will get it out and get the other car that was on top off it.

Well holy God, they used a fork lift to move it out, and ruined the very good interior and one arm of the fork lift went straight through the drivers seat buggered up the leather and wood etc Chromes wrecked and also moved it about using the fork lift on wings which in turn damaged the grill and rear chromes which we were after. The car had its books inside her and also only 80k on the NCT cert. It was a shame to see and even worse to see so many good parts going to waste. It seems they were only interested in metal value, and the leather interior I would have given good money for. Mad I am shock by it, Surely this car was worth saving even if just for parts only!!

Have a look and see what they made of a good car even though it was for parts only !!

I offered to buy the car complete on Wednesday and he said he'd only sell the parts off it, I told him i'd be up on Saturday to buy all the trims and the interior, what an @sshole, if I had retards like that working for me I wouldn't be in business for long but that said some scrapyards do thing like this just for the shock value alone. That said, whoever took the car to the scrapyard in the first place deserves a hammering he could have given it away to someone if he didn't want the hassle of selling it.:mad:

carchaeologist

Thats just taking the fcuking piss. Sad to see a once fine car destroyed like that,and doubly so that they wouldnt sell the interior which seems from the pics to be in good order. As has been said,all that the value they see in that car is the weight of metal. The 01 Primera in the background is another example of the throwaway society we seem to live in now. And they say the Scrappage scheme is environmentlly friendly?????

Saab Ed

Ali Babba wrote: »

. That said, whoever took the car to the scrapyard in the first place deserves a hammering he could have given it away to someone if he didn't want the hassle of selling it.:mad:

Probably a scrappage scheme car. If so then it had to be scrapped once a certificate of destruction was issued. Sad really , what a lovely car but the reality was it wasn't worth any more. Much as im making a living out of this scrappage scheme , my heart is braking seeing cars like this being destroyed

carchaeologist

Saab Ed wrote: »

Probably a scrappage scheme car. If so then it had to be scrapped once a certificate of destruction was issued.

This probably explains why he wouldnt sell the whole car.

Saab Ed wrote: »

Much as im making a living out of this scrappage scheme , my heart is braking seeing cars like this being destroyed

Yes,theres a lot of pretty nice motors going through the system isnt there. My local scrappy was stacked 4 high the last day i was over there looking for MK4 Golf parts,he said there was three of them in the yard yet i could only find two of them. And i looked damn hard!! Funny thing is there was seemingly nothing over 15 years old in there either.

Max_Damage

carchaeologist wrote: »

Yes,theres a lot of pretty nice motors going through the system isnt there. My local scrappy was stacked 4 high the last day i was over there looking for MK4 Golf parts,he said there was three of them in the yard yet i could only find two of them. And i looked damn hard!! Funny thing is there was seemingly nothing over 15 years old in there either.

Most scrappy's don't stock older cars now. Although in that yard across from the Red Cow, I did see an '88 W124 and a '92 Carina (the old shape one) the other day when I was getting the wheels for my Escort.

Saab Ed

carchaeologist wrote: »

Funny thing is there was seemingly nothing over 15 years old in there either.

Because even if something older does come in it'll probably sit there too long before all the valuable parts are sold off it, in the throw away society we live in its much easier for people to just buy another car rather than repair a good yet broken old one. Nope its much easier for the scrappy to just bail the older cars and turn it into a ton of metal which translates into ready cash and more space for fresher cars to sit in off which the parts will sell quicker

okistag

Saab Ed wrote: »

Because even if something older does come in it'll probably sit there too long before all the valuable parts are sold off it, in the throw away society we live in its much easier for people to just buy another car rather than repair a good yet broken old one. Nope its much easier for the scrappy to just bail the older cars and turn it into a ton of metal which translates into ready cash and more space for fresher cars to sit in off which the parts will sell quicker

You are more than likely right there, but surely when they get 3 enquiries that we know of on the car and asking about the same things like interior surely they smell money!! at the time we told them what we wanted and they agreed but its was the fellow driving the fork lift who did the damage and didnt care less and just lifted. He was only meant to take the top car off we could have got what we wanted where it was. So shock value maybe by the forklift driver but when we said it to the boss man when paying for bits we wanted, he said you should have taken these parts yesterday so!! I would guess its already gone in the crusher somehow as we were asked a few times "lads are you in finished yet" by the guy who was getting them ready for the crusher

Blue Punto

Must be fantastic money in the scrap trade if they are willing to to wreck an interior like that and screw up a sale of a couple of hundred quid.


Either that or the driver of the fork truck is a blind muppet who should be sacked for doing what he did


Anyone have a field and we will open our own breakers yard and get rich too while we are at it

kasper

i heard only yesterday the price of metal is gone up and the price of scrap is sky high , i rang that guy in the kildare scrapyard about parts he had on a twenty six year old car he had in stock the car was complete , he told me it was baled two days before because he had another visit from the epa

okistag

Blue Punto wrote: »

Must be fantastic money in the scrap trade if they are willing to to wreck an interior like that and screw up a sale of a couple of hundred quid.


Either that or the driver of the fork truck is a blind muppet who should be sacked for doing what he did


Anyone have a field and we will open our own breakers yard and get rich too while we are at it

Good point, there must be money in a good scrap yard for claasic here, sure if that Damiler was in UK it would have been stripped correctly and parts would of been on offer. Hence why we all land up bringing in parts for our classics paying for shiping etc and the yoyo's go out of our country.

okistag

by the way I asked the fellow in the yard if Daimler was in on a scrappage deal and he said NO, something about a clear out of a place and two or 3 cars were removed!!

VolvoMan

Saab Ed wrote: »

Probably a scrappage scheme car. If so then it had to be scrapped once a certificate of destruction was issued. Sad really , what a lovely car but the reality was it wasn't worth any more. Much as im making a living out of this scrappage scheme , my heart is braking seeing cars like this being destroyed

If you had read my post I said that the car was part of a collection of a chap I used to know. I'd highly doubt he'd be the type to buy a new car, never mind the sort of cars available under the scrappage scheme. I also only saw the car in his parents drive way for a short period, so I wouldn't say he had it the required 18 months either.

He's moved out now, so I probably won't see him for a while. If I do happen to come across him in the near future I am going to find out what he was thinking and report back here.

VolvoMan

okistag wrote: »

by the way I asked the fellow in the yard if Daimler was in on a scrappage deal and he said NO, something about a clear out of a place and two or 3 cars were removed!!

That's the place across the road from me!

Judging by the other cars parked near it at the time, I'd say that's not the least of the good metal has gone to the crusher as well.:(

I really am shocked at this to be honest. Why wouldn't he just offer them for sale rather than send them to an early grave like he did?

carchaeologist

Blue Punto wrote: »

Anyone have a field and we will open our own breakers yard and get rich too while we are at it

Thats all well and good but the EPA robots would be in like a shot,of flying around in their chopper...

galwaytt

carchaeologist wrote: »

Thats all well and good but the EPA robots would be in like a shot,of flying around in their chopper...

....oh yeah, nice'n'evironmentally friendly, that.......:rolleyes:

ronaneire

It seems they don't give a flying fcuk about what they sell or do.
Any other breakers would have possibly put it to one side knowing somebody would have been interested her for parts.
It is a total shame and disgrace.

kasper

couldnt see the like of it happening in any other country

okistag

I understand when one says its not worth much due to road tax or mpg.
I have a XJR and they seem to hold their value of course condition based but in generial they do get a premium over a XJ8 etc. That was a rare enough car to be honest. I do not think it was a scrappage car as stated before by Volvo. It was worth something and I know what i would of given for it, never mind just for interior and moduls etc.

Anyhow I would like to say this.

A close friend of mine bought brand new in 2004 a CL 600 Merc with all the extras and the price landed up at 180000 euro. Now 6 years later its a mid 20k car !!
That means it cost them 155000 to have it for 6 years, each year it dropped by 25000 grand. (This I wouldnt mind if the merc had 200k plus on it but its just over 21k on the clock. would hate to think what cost per mile and never mind mpg)

My Jag the road tax is crazy at 1500 per year, but one years depreciation on his merc would cover the next 15 years road tax on my jaguar.

The Jag drives as well and in my personal view i prefer Jag. I do not see it as worthless at all, I have the comfort, speed if i want it, just a magic car with little or depreciation at this stage. To replace it for something like it and more modern would be crazy based purely on depreciation.

Even if money was no problem, I would hate to buy something that i knew i was going to lose that kind of money on. If one house dropped by the same value there would be war well there is. If i did buy a new car it would have to be something I would hang on to for ever.

So I guess what I am saying is, That Daimler or any other car should hold some value it has all the refinment of anything else but actually cost less if one sits and thinks about it.

Or am I trying to justify my Jag !!! nah I am not. I just think we have just lost all our marbles !!!

Max_Damage

Seems like I opened a can of worms by posting that picture in the first place!

kasper

Max_Damage wrote: »

Seems like I opened a can of worms by posting that picture in the first place!

and the only way to redeem yourself is find the forklift driver and give him a good kick where it hurts most

okistag

Max_Damage wrote: »

Seems like I opened a can of worms by posting that picture in the first place!

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Originally Posted by Max_Damage View Post
Seems like I opened a can of worms by posting that picture in the first place!

and the only way to redeem yourself is find the forklift driver and give him a good kick where it hurts most

now i am and i agree with above qoute

Max_Damage

kasper wrote: »

i heard only yesterday the price of metal is gone up and the price of scrap is sky high , i rang that guy in the kildare scrapyard about parts he had on a twenty six year old car he had in stock the car was complete , he told me it was baled two days before because he had another visit from the epa

Is that this lad?: http://www.flickr.com/photos/scrawb/

kasper

no there was a link on one of the threads here in the last two weeks or so

hi5

I know a lad who recently started going around collecting scrapped cars with an A-frame kept in the back of his transit pickup.He's getting €100-€130 per ton from a yard near Bunclody and they are scouring every back yard in the country.I told him to let me know of anything interesting or old,scrapped a late 70's bluebird the other day:(
The whole depreciation thing bugs the s**t out of me.
Either a €150000 car isnt worth it in the first place or secondhand prices are dictated by an industry only concerned about churning out new stuff to keep the worlds consumer economy ticking over,probably a bit of both.
Its not about the environment its about the economy,
every old car kept alive is one less job for somone in the car industry.
I also find it ironic that there is a scrapyard at the Redcow,wouldnt it be better served as housing considering its convienent location,Luas,M50 etc, instead of forcing people to commute for miles from surrounding counties into the city centre.

carchaeologist

hi5 wrote: »

I know a lad who recently started going around collecting scrapped cars with an A-frame kept in the back of his transit pickup.He's getting €100-€130 per ton from a yard near Bunclody and they are scouring every back yard in the country.

Thats happening everywhere,theres lots of guys doing that down here too. Cars are being pulled out of fields that have been there for years. Id be afraid to leave something parked up for too long!:p

okistag

hi5 wrote: »

I know a lad who recently started going around collecting scrapped cars with an A-frame kept in the back of his transit pickup.He's getting €100-€130 per ton from a yard near Bunclody and they are scouring every back yard in the country.I told him to let me know of anything interesting or old,scrapped a late 70's bluebird the other day:(
The whole depreciation thing bugs the s**t out of me.
Either a €150000 car isnt worth it in the first place or secondhand prices are dictated by an industry only concerned about churning out new stuff to keep the worlds consumer economy ticking over,probably a bit of both.
Its not about the environment its about the economy,
every old car kept alive is one less job for somone in the car industry.
I also find it ironic that there is a scrapyard at the Redcow,wouldnt it be better served as housing considering its convienent location,Luas,M50 etc, instead of forcing people to commute for miles from surrounding counties into the city centre.

I agree fully with you, I just think its crazy people buy new cars and it drops 50 % in 3 years. Then its scrap value in 8 - 10 years. Yes the it is economy they are interested in but not everyone can afford new either.