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Terrace/Hoolie Fashion

  • 22-05-2007 8:56pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29


    Any followers out there? If so What ye wearin?
    Personally i'm into Paul Smith at the mo which is Underated i reckon, as well as the likes of Aquascutum and Stone island. Still a fan of Henry Lloyd but a lot of there gear is gettin a bit chavy all stripy jumpers n that. As for footwear - Adidas gazelles, Puma Romas and lacoste.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    about the look, not the label

    Lacoste & Ralph polos, Fjall shorts, M&S bits and bobs, adidas tennis/stans/gazelles/Italia/Oslo...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    Not sure about PS being under-rated, can think of at least 4 stockists in Dublin alone :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    PS is defo not underrated.

    Totally agree about HL and their stripey jumpers and polos. WTF are they thinking? :rolleyes:

    A decent pair of adidas like their Italia's can't be beaten.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭colm-ccfc84


    I am really into paul smith. Don' think it is terrace wear though. Really like stone island, suppose you would classify it as terrace wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    hoolie wear?

    get a life ffs.. i wouldn't wear ANYTHING that asscoiates me with the scum element of the eircom league..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKd9Ai_n_KQ

    proud?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    hoolie wear?

    get a life ffs.. i wouldn't wear ANYTHING that asscoiates me with the scum element of the eircom league..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKd9Ai_n_KQ

    proud?

    Don't slag 'em. It might all "go off". :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    hoolie wear?

    get a life ffs.. i wouldn't wear ANYTHING that asscoiates me with the scum element of the eircom league..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKd9Ai_n_KQ

    proud?
    So.......no adidas, puma, SI, Aqua, PS, P&S, HL, AJ, Prada, L&S...good luck. :rolleyes:

    Tell us what you wear then.

    And btw, the post was also about terrace fashion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    for rovers matches i have about 3/4 rovers shirts which i alternate plus jeans... not exactly hoolie.:rolleyes:

    always thought the only reason that people wore all that 'gear' was that they could recognise each other for a fight.

    you said hoolie in your post, if you wanna fight, do it away from football. :rolleyes:

    and yes, one can dress without all those brands that you said above...i do regularly:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭colm-ccfc84


    for rovers matches i have about 3/4 rovers shirts which i alternate plus jeans... not exactly hoolie.:rolleyes:

    always thought the only reason that people wore all that 'gear' was that they could recognise each other for a fight.

    you said hoolie in your post, if you wanna fight, do it away from football. :rolleyes:

    and yes, one can dress without all those brands that you said above...i do regularly:p
    It is acting in a violent manner that makes one a hooligan, not the clothing somebody wears. I will wear what I like to wear regardless of whether someone who likes to cause trouble likes the same clothes or not, it is footling. The topic is about clothing, nothing else. I never have been involved in hooliganism, it is despicable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    if you wanna fight, do it away from football. :rolleyes:

    Tell us where the row was, and tell us where the match was.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    sorry and i quote
    op wrote:
    hoolie fashion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    I'd say a bit of fighting is far from the worst anti-social habit that people on boards.ie partake in. See the after hours board for various threads in which people try to convice themselves and others that Class A drugs are OK. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭Frankiestylee


    I know it's each to their own, but... do people actually want to look like football hooligans? It doesn't exactly strike me as something one would want to emulate... what's next, dumpster diving to get that derelict look (I hear it's so hot right now)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    I know it's each to their own, but... do people actually want to look like football hooligans? It doesn't exactly strike me as something one would want to emulate... what's next, dumpster diving to get that derelict look (I hear it's so hot right now)

    Sigh. :(

    It's a cultural movement. Imported from England. Every "look" is imported from somewhere though. Ireland is never going to produce a look of it's own which will spark an entire social movement, in turn influencing popular culture for the next 20 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Bateman wrote:
    Sigh. :(

    It's a cultural movement. Imported from England. Every "look" is imported from somewhere though. Ireland is never going to produce a look of it's own which will spark an entire social movement, in turn influencing popular culture for the next 20 years.

    Come on. I was into 80s Casual looks in the day but it's all about context.

    You are dressing like you are part of the Casual subculture.

    If you do this at a match, you are bound to stand out as such.

    Outside of footy, it's just clothes but at a match, dressing like that gives a clear sign you are either a casual or want to be thought of as a Casual.

    As for hoolies, I've no problem with it BTW; just as long as it's away from the game, civilians don't get sucked in and it doesn't reflect back badly on the club like the media do with SRFC.

    You can't wear Burberry, Stone Island, AJ etc at EL and not be aware of the image you are projecting. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    EL football in Dublin is played on a Friday night.

    Lads are dressed up to go to late bars/clubs in the city centre afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Zebra3 wrote:
    EL football in Dublin is played on a Friday night.

    .

    I know that. Point taken. Just meant that if you wear certain clothes in certain contexts, you can't complain if you get labeled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Scally07


    If you've nothing constructive to ad to this thread , butt out. Simple as.

    Anyway,
    IMO, Paul Smith is over looked by lads into the scene and some of their gear is quality stuff, got a short PS sport jacket with a high collar their a while ago in dundrum for 40quid down from 110 and before that 210 which i was well chuffed about. i found it in that bargain section in the corner and was ready to pay the full whack for it. Happy days. Also got a pair of their jeans there a few weeks ago which im well pleased with.

    Also on the topic of footwear, whats your opinion on columbia and timberland boots? Wouldn't be caught dead in them meself, Looks a bit chav.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Scally07


    [You can't wear Burberry, Stone Island, AJ etc at EL and not be aware of the image you are projecting. :)[/QUOTE]

    I'm not gonna argue with that, but its just in me at this stage. If i started following rugby i'd still dress the same i woulnt switch to dubes and leinster jerseys or whatever.

    BTW Bateman - where you gettin your fjallraven?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭colm-ccfc84


    Scally07 wrote:
    If you've nothing constructive to ad to this thread , butt out. Simple as.

    Anyway,
    IMO, Paul Smith is over looked by lads into the scene and some of their gear is quality stuff, got a short PS sport jacket with a high collar their a while ago in dundrum for 40quid down from 110 and before that 210 which i was well chuffed about. i found it in that bargain section in the corner and was ready to pay the full whack for it. Happy days. Also got a pair of their jeans there a few weeks ago which im well pleased with.

    Also on the topic of footwear, whats your opinion on columbia and timberland boots? Wouldn't be caught dead in them meself, Looks a bit chav.
    Had an identical experience in Dundrum with a paul smith jacket, quality! He is one of my fav designers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Scally07 wrote:
    IMO, Paul Smith is over looked by lads into the scene and some of their gear is quality stuff

    Defo.

    Bought a pair of their jeans in Lemon(?) four years ago and still wearing them. They're in top notch condition. :) And the most comfortable pair of jeans I've ever had!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    Always knew you were a wrong un ;)
    stovelid wrote:
    Come on. I was into 80s Casual looks in the day but it's all about context.

    You are dressing like you are part of the Casual subculture.

    What do you mean "like"?
    stovelid wrote:
    If you do this at a match, you are bound to stand out as such.

    No-one complained at that. Colm's comments might be such, but one presumes that if he had a regular problem being pigeon-holed as a hoolie, he wouldnt wear the gear.
    stovelid wrote:
    Outside of footy, it's just clothes but at a match, dressing like that gives a clear sign you are either a casual or want to be thought of as a Casual.

    Again, yeah, that's 100% true and no-one's denying it. But people in Colombia die every day in order to keep the global drug supply chain going, and for some reason being candid about your Class A drug habits is a lesser offence on boards.ie (and society in general) than being linked to chaps who like to fight other like-minded chaps.
    stovelid wrote:
    As for hoolies, I've no problem with it BTW; just as long as it's away from the game, civilians don't get sucked in and it doesn't reflect back badly on the club like the media do with SRFC.
    Don't know whether this is the place or not, but I mean Rovers the club and Rovers the mob have never been too far removed.

    http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/members/trustees.php
    stovelid wrote:
    You can't wear Burberry, Stone Island, AJ etc at EL and not be aware of the image you are projecting. :)
    At the risk of repetition, 100% true and no-one can deny that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Bateman wrote:
    Always knew you were a wrong un ;)

    Be warned. A clothes habit is for life. Get out while you can. ;)
    Bateman wrote:
    At the risk of repetition, 100% true and no-one can deny that.

    Only made the points in the context of the casual-denial posts. Just meant that if you dress a certain way, you'll be perceived in a certain way. I think we're on the same sheet and your points are valid (and taken).

    The other poster's point is correct, it's terrace fashion too. Valid point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭pbsuxok1znja4r


    I have no idea what 'look' this thread is on about. Anyone have an example (as in picture) of what 'terrace fashion' actually looks like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I have no idea what 'look' this thread is on about. Anyone have an example (as in picture) of what 'terrace fashion' actually looks like?

    Sorry I couldn't resist :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Scally07


    Just goin back to Henri Lloyd, was in Arnotts there on Saturday having a look - whoever is in charge of HL at the mo should be shot for ruining such a good label, what used to be simple quality clobber has been turned to **** - all distressed fabrics, patches, badges and stupid slogans. If i wanted to look like a two bob tosser ill do my shopping in the jean scene or River Island thank you very much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭colm-ccfc84


    Scally07 wrote:
    Just goin back to Henri Lloyd, was in Arnotts there on Saturday having a look - whoever is in charge of HL at the mo should be shot for ruining such a good label, what used to be simple quality clobber has been turned to **** - all distressed fabrics, patches, badges and stupid slogans. If i wanted to look like a two bob tosser ill do my shopping in the jean scene or River Island thank you very much.
    I would agree with you there. The basic, discreet style was much better. I am not really into HL myself, but certainly the new style wouldn't change my mind!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭CSC


    My favourite brands at the moment are Paul and Shark and One True Saxon. Great quality clobber and not on sale in many places in Ireland.
    I have become quite bored with Addidas trainers lately though my favourite trainers are Sambas.
    I will keep an eye out for some Paul Smith gear; as you said it is quite overlooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Wouldn't usually wear the stuff to matches, I'm more of a jersey, jeans and expensive hoodie guy.:p

    Although I do own several of the labels mentioned. BTW Stone Island is a bit pre-2000's and there's so many fakes of things nowdays in Dublin there's no meaning to the labels.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭CSC


    I don't think football jerseys look right on grown men to be honest. It's also a pain wearing colours as you can't get into decent pubs/clubs afterwards.
    Also you can generally tell fakes a mile away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭kerash


    I cannot understand this Hoolie/Terrace/Casual BS, why not just wear the colour of your team if your going to a match:confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    Bateman wrote: »
    Sigh. :(

    It's a cultural movement. Imported from England. Every "look" is imported from somewhere though. Ireland is never going to produce a look of it's own which will spark an entire social movement, in turn influencing popular culture for the next 20 years.
    i reckon the aran sweater is about to become a global phenomenon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    CSC wrote: »
    I don't think football jerseys look right on grown men to be honest. It's also a pain wearing colours as you can't get into decent pubs/clubs afterwards.
    Also you can generally tell fakes a mile away.


    1) I'm 17 and jerseys don't look bad on grown men.
    2) I'd say you'd be more likely to be turned away wearing a SI jacket with a badge.
    3)I live around the corner from Meath St and well the fake SI, Adidas and a few other brands look brill but as for Fred Perry fakes they're shocking and can be spotted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭CSC


    Just my personal opinion mate. Football jerseys look ok when you are a kid or playing football but I wouldn't be seen in one now. Stone Island isn't a brand I wear that much but it and the other brands I mentioned look smart and and will not get you turned away from anywhere. I like to put the effort into what I wear and be well turned out for the match. Fakes can look good when they are on a market stall but after a wash or two they aren't worth waiting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Peared


    I'm sorry, can I just get this straight?

    People (skangers?) have certain 'fashion' items that they wear to soccer matches?

    And 'hoolie' means hooligan?

    Where the f*ck have I been?

    This is so funny that I cant actually laugh.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭CSC


    Do some research before you post and you’ll be get it straight.
    There is a culture for working class football supporters (not skangers) to dress in a “casual “ fashion (I.E designer clothes and not wearing colours) while attending matches.
    Hoolie is the short for hooligan but I would like to add not all “casuals” are involved in football violence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Peared wrote: »

    Where the f*ck have I been?

    Nowhere near an actual live football match (except on a barstool). Ever?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Peared


    Dead right, only been to one in me life. Dont sit on barstools either. Or in fact, watch soccer on TV. Or have any interest in soccer whatsoever.

    I is a girl :p

    People who cause fights for fun at football matches are skangers. Dont need a PHD in soccer-watching to know that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Peared wrote: »
    Dead right, only been to one in me life. Dont sit on barstools either. Or in fact, watch soccer on TV. Or have any interest in soccer whatsoever.

    I is a girl :p

    People who cause fights for fun at football matches are skangers. Dont need a PHD in soccer-watching to know that.


    No they ain't skangers, they're lads who want to fight for their team (not really). Something in the hooligan rule book is hooligans fight hooligans and no-one else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Peared


    Sorry, I'll rephrase.

    People who cause fights for fun at matches are scum.

    Now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Peared wrote: »
    Sorry, I'll rephrase.

    People who cause fights for fun at matches are scum.

    Now.

    Good insight - from somebody who has 'only been to one in me life'.

    I can see where you're coming from about fighting, but they are referring to a wider phenomenon: the fashions worn in the last 25 years by football fans: that is, terrace fashions. I'm in my 30s now but it was very much part of my life - the clothes and football (but not the aggro) when I was younger.

    Not all lads into casual fashions were/are fighters and as far as I can see, nobody has talked about fighting here. If the lads talk about anything other than clothes, I'm sure Stark or Simu will close the thread.

    As for fighters - as gav says: they don't infringe on me. What they want to do between themselves is their business.

    You don't really know what you're talking about so let the thread progress.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Peared


    Stovelid, I have already admitted ignorance on the subject.

    Regarding the clothes, not my thing obv, but people can wear what the hell they like. I find it amusing that there is a fashion for such a thing, this is new information for me.

    BUT, what else am I supposed to infer from the word 'hoolie'? So to me, that is talking about violence.

    Anyway, I know Im way off topic so I'll shut up now.

    Except to add! Fighting is not just their business, it affects the people around them, the A&E ward that have to deal with the aftermath and gets clogged up when these things happen, the wives and girlfriends, the emergency services, the passers by, the kids who get too scared to go to matches... I could go on.

    But like I said, I'll shut up now.


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