Joyriders caught by Gardai. [VID]

Owen

Chief--- wrote:

Ned I dont think you know the type of people who steal cars.

And yet again, I'll repeat that no one has proof that this car was stolen. I have no problem with the Gards being as heavy handed as they'd like with thiefs. If it's a young lad just acting the maggot and not knowing any better, a bit of professionalism would go a long way.

At 7.30 this morning, I have the 5th break in attempt at my house, and I'd like to see a Garda leather the people reponsible. So there, I'm not all flowers and hugs, and I have a fair idea of the type of people who steal cars (And in my case, Motorbikes)

Stark

ned78 wrote:

And yet again, I'll repeat that no one has proof that this car was stolen. I have no problem with the Gards being as heavy handed as they'd like with thiefs. If it's a young lad just acting the maggot and not knowing any better, a bit of professionalism would go a long way.

But how are the Gardaí supposed to know it wasn't stolen when they walk up to the car?

Owen

Stark wrote:

But how are the Gardaí supposed to know it wasn't stolen when they walk up to the car?

By using common sense? Checking that the locks on the car aren't forced, that the ignition isn't ripped out, and on the occassion that it's a car that's been lifted with stolen keys, see does the driver fit the profile of the car that's being driven, ie : a 16 year old with a hoodie driving an IS200 would be a bit suss.

The correct way to handle the situation, stolen or not, would be as I've said before :
Block his escape avenue with the Police Car thus removing the possibility of human injury.
Ask him to turn off the engine step out of the vehicle calmly.
Tell him if he doesn't comply, that force will be used.
Repeat the warning.
Tell him at this stage that he's about to break the Window (Because it gives him a chance to shield his eyes from broken glass)
Then remove and restrain him.

The Gards used foul language, and that shouldn't be tolerated under any circumstances. And that's my end of my debate, the rest of you can discuss it at will, but I'm afraid it won't change my point of view.

Stark

ned78 wrote:

By using common sense? Checking that the locks on the car aren't forced, that the ignition isn't ripped out, and on the occassion that it's a car that's been lifted with stolen keys, see does the driver fit the profile of the car that's being driven, ie : a 16 year old with a hoodie driving an IS200 would be a bit suss.

Oh now you're just trolling. Since immobilisers came on the scene, a large percentage of cars today are stolen using keys taken by breaking into houses. Check to see if the driver fit the profile!? I'd say it was pretty flupping obvious that the driver fit the profile, but no doubt you already have a troll response lined up for it so I'll leave it.

Owen

Stark wrote:

Oh now you're just trolling. Since immobilisers came on the scene, a large percentage of cars today are stolen using keys taken by breaking into houses.

Where'd you get that Stat from? Because when one of my bikes was stolen from my house last month, the Garda who came to the scene specifically told me that young lads are stealing older cars to joyride in, as they can start them easily without immobilisers.

Ah hang on, I'm trolling again ... :rolleyes:

Regardless, this thread has become less of a debate, and more of 'Get Ned' than I'd like, so I'm out. So much for reasonable conversation eh?

whosedaddy?

Given the amount of daylight its kind of hard to see from 10 yards out whether the locks have been picked....

What kind of guard would walk up to a car from behind in darkness, check the locks, ask politely for drivers license to profile the driver , checks the locks only then to take steps to ensure the lad is dealt with properly.

I've been on night duty with cops in Germany wearing bulletproof vests and and hand on the gun when doing routing route checks on far less suspicious cars, cause one of their colleages was shot during a routine vehicle check before he said "boo" to the driver....

If I was a guard, foul language in such a situation would be the last of my concerns tbh.

Turner

Its so rare on this board to see so many people stick up for the Gardai,

Its not often the public see what they have to put up with.

I dont think you will win this one neddy.

Stark

ned78 wrote:

Where'd you get that Stat from? Because when one of my bikes was stolen from my house last month, the Garda who came to the scene specifically told me that young lads are stealing older cars to joyride in, as they can start them easily without immobilisers.

I didn't give you a Stat, nor did I say the majority of cars are stolen using the keys. But quite a few are. For example it's common enough for people to leave their keys on the hall table, meaning easy pickings for an opportunistic thief. Of course, there are still people who are silly enough to leave their keys in the car when they go to the shops or whatever. Just because a car doesn't have a smashed window and loads of coloured wires hanging from the ingnition, doesn't mean it's not stolen.

The Garda was perfectly right to favour a no-nonsense attitude in getting the pricki]sic[/i out of the car first and finding out if the car was stolen or not later.

Jumpy

ned78 wrote:

By using common sense? Checking that the locks on the car aren't forced, that the ignition isn't ripped out, and on the occassion that it's a car that's been lifted with stolen keys, see does the driver fit the profile of the car that's being driven, ie : a 16 year old with a hoodie driving an IS200 would be a bit suss.

The correct way to handle the situation, stolen or not, would be as I've said before :
Block his escape avenue with the Police Car thus removing the possibility of human injury.
Ask him to turn off the engine step out of the vehicle calmly.
Tell him if he doesn't comply, that force will be used.
Repeat the warning.
Tell him at this stage that he's about to break the Window (Because it gives him a chance to shield his eyes from broken glass)
Then remove and restrain him.

The Gards used foul language, and that shouldn't be tolerated under any circumstances. And that's my end of my debate, the rest of you can discuss it at will, but I'm afraid it won't change my point of view.

If RTE came up with a reality show where you became a Garda for a week, I would insist this guy be put on it.

craichoe

In a potentially life threatening situation like that i'd see nothing wrong with him smashing the window.

A car is a potentially lethal weapon

craichoe

Jumpy wrote:

If RTE came up with a reality show where you became a Garda for a week, I would insist this guy be put on it.

Or better yet, a Prison Officer ... hahahahaha

I dont' think scumbags would understand anything other than "foul language"

galwaytt

Jumpy wrote:

If RTE came up with a reality show where you became a Garda for a week, I would insist this guy be put on it.

Ha ! Excellent idea........

....Use yr full kb.

[HIJACK]why do I have to use my knob ? [/HIJACK]

wet-paint

I like this thread, but ned, this ain't a Get Ned one, I think people just don't see how you can think that foul language is always always wrong, and politeness always works. You're a big proponent for it, but you aren't getting your point acrosssufficiently as to why the cops should have behaved differently and still achieve their aim.

unkel

I don't think leaving this open any longer will achieve anything...

marco murphy

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055098056


I actually filmed this in Blanchardstown.

quarryman

dammit.

so all scumbags are from the northside then...

marco murphy

I don't live in the area, and I certaintly would'nt start branding a community as scumbags or whatever. There is a scumbag element in every community.

Guy:Incognito

Was that you shouting at "Peter"?

Turner

Have ya any more videos?

marco murphy

I do from the same area. Scumbags or what. Ill upload another

quarryman

Poblachtach wrote:

I don't live in the area, and I certaintly would'nt start branding a community as scumbags or whatever. There is a scumbag element in every community.

read the thread. I was actually making a joke about a number of posters that assumed it was Northside, "judging by the accents".

unkel

Poblachtach wrote:

I actually filmed this in Blanchardstown.

Hi Poblachtach. Have you any proof you filmed that?

If so, I'll merge this with the other thread and re-open it for a while. Some more comments from yourself, who experienced it first hand, would be interesting too. If not, this will be closed

marco murphy

I filmed it with my SE. Its a mitsubishi Colt, 99% sure it is anyway. It was indeed stolen like the ford puma i filmed. It was filmed in the fortlawn area. I cant exactly prove i filmed it but i did film it, ill find out about the particullar driver and ill see what happened him. Hope he got life in jail tbh.

Ill upload the Puma one now.

EDIT : The youtube account is not mine, its a freinds in scotland, he uploads any of my vids.

CiaranC

ned78 will be shocked when he finds out it was stolen.

I mean it wasnt obvious or anything.

marco murphy

CiaranC wrote:

ned78 will be shocked when he finds out it was stolen.

I mean it wasnt obvious or anything.

LOL .

Found out its not a puma, sure whatever, iam nto an expert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-6Rz3SdYFs

franksm

I've lobbed a few bottles at joyriders back home - at one time they made our estate a frequent haunt, until they were "deterred". Even broke into the fire-chief's car (white Cavalier with blue lights and two-tones which happened to activate with the alarm).

If you lob a brick at a joyrider, and it breaks his face:

a. does anybody care ?
b. is it illegal ?

There are some who would say that the joyriders will come back for revenge, but they tend to be too chicken for that

mikemac

Poblachtach wrote:

LOL .

Found out its not a puma, sure whatever, iam nto an expert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-6Rz3SdYFs

Scum:mad:

If they insist on doing that, why not find some industrial estate? Many of them are deserted over the weekend.
They was a kid on a bicycle in the video-it should never happen in a housing estate.

DeBeere

Poblachtach wrote:

LOL .

Found out its not a puma, sure whatever, iam nto an expert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-6Rz3SdYFs

He's cool, I wish I were that cool.

Seriously though is he trying to show off to some kids standing on sidewalk?
Needs to find some friends...

Cake Fiend

franksm wrote:

b. is it illegal ?

Yes, unfortunately

Just make sure your'e behind the camera! No evidence, no worries.

junkyard

I'd say it's a Mazda 323 coupe. I'd love to set those scumbags up with a car loaded with explosives or something and just as they on their way detonate it.